Recent Experiences in Comic Vine with PikaHyper

Topic started by takashichea on Nov. 4, 2012. Last post by takashichea 1 year, 6 months ago.
Post by takashichea (11,968 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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This is a copy from my Comic Vine account. It's short because I'm busy to write in my journal. Heh...

Comic Vine Wiki Editing

I first came to Comic Vine after clicking on the news articles on the bottom of Anime Vice's website. That was a year ago. I didn't know Comic Vine had Japanese manga until I stumbled upon FoxxFireArt's blog about having a staff writer focusing on manga. Over there, I was introduced to another awesome wiki editor, PikaHyper. The man had an ambition to expand on the foreign comic database and adding more manga titles than Anime Vice. It made me work in Comic Vine.

While I was working on the manga pages, PikaHyper helped me lot in Comic Vine with the wiki style and the rules. I added manga volumes from Anime Vice and adding manga volumes from Comic Vine to Anime Vice. Usually, I concentrate my work on a few projects, and I don't create a lot of different series that I'm not familiar with. His ambitions changed my wiki outlook, and I'm adding new titles either from Quick Picks or CV for the sake of expanding the database.

I hoping that the work on foreign comics that PikaHyper and everyone else did can bridge the gap between Comic Vine and Anime Vice and increase wiki editing in both communities as well.

Post by Elfenlied1012 (557 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea: sounds good man, not big on comic vine, but still sounds good.

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,640 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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They need to do a lot of work over there as far as manga. I had to raise a protest on how they were going to be naming Japanese manga over there. By that rule, they would have forced users to use strict romaji titles for everything, even series such as ONE PIECE and FAIRY TAIL. It would have been laughable if the FAIRY TAIL page had been called Feari Teiru. They reversed that policy after I pointed out the mistake.

I could tell their style guide was created by people who had no understanding of the Japanese language.

Post by takashichea (11,968 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@FoxxFireArt:

I didn't know about that. I think the rule of thumb was go by the official English name if available. If there's none, go by the most popular romanization.

It was interesting to see that they have a Japanese, English, and other languages for the same manga series. The Fairy Tail page has a Japanese and English separate volume wiki pages. In the end, I hope folks here in Anime Vice and Comic Vine work together. Comic Vine is still Anime Vice's sister, and we need all the help we can get. For manga progress in Comic Vine, they're doing a great job in adding tons of manga. I got help in expanding the Shaman Kanzenban series when I got into a dead end.

Right now, I'm limited to Quick Picks in Anime Vice. I don't know what other manga series that Anime Vice doesn't have, so I go by what the Quick Picks or what Comic Vine has recently added in their manga database.

Post by takashichea (11,968 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Elfenlied1012:

Thanks! I say and FoxxFireArt are the diplomats for Comic Vine and Anime Vice.

Post by Elfenlied1012 (557 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea: I read a metric shit ton of manga. I'll make sure to add them if their not on the site as I did with girlfriends, not my fault I'm not popular and I'm about to for Shoujo sect.

Post by gillagorilla (6 posts) See mini bio Level 14

I know this is a little bit old, but why exactly is there manga over on Comic Vine? I mean Anime Vice makes it kind of redundant. While I was questing, I got linked to Comic Vine (i.e. Portgas D. Ace in one instance, but I think they spelled it with a z). I can understand there being Batman manga on Comic Vine (since it originated as a comic book) and perhaps the anime adaptations of Iron man. I mean they have a One Piece page, but it had maybe like a dozen issues. If it is an issue of Comic Vine being more popular and thus wanting to put manga over there as well, then I can understand that. However, that shouldn't be how it is. It would be much better to inform them of this sister site, just like Giant Bomb or Screend. You could even link over to hear if you need manga stuff on Comic Vine. I mean we don't even include anime games on here, which I think we should or at least acknowledge them by linking them to Giant Bomb. Surprisingly, Comic Vine doesn't do video games either (to my knowledge). Does anyone know the relative popularity ranking of Comic Vine, Giant Bomb, Anime Vice and Screend? I never really meant to say this much, but yeah. This could be a great discussion.

Post by gillagorilla (6 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Well, simply by users Giant Bomb is the winner with 161,343. Then, there is Comic Vine with 139,162. Next, with a massive drop-off is Anime Vice with 34,221. Finally, there is Screend with 25,852. I think that the huge drop-off is explainable due to the fact that Anime Vice doesn't really come up in Google searches (that I have noticed). There are not many sites for listing video games (IGN, Gamespot, Backloggery). I didn't like their style or ease of use at all. Comic Vine is the only one really that I tried (Stashmycomics and Comicbookdb). Screend has the most competition from IMDB, Mubi, Letterboxd and Flixster. Anime Vice has similar levels of competition from MAL, Animeplanet, and anidb. There are also some freeware and paid apps for each type of the four things these sites track (Collectorz). So, I answered my own question about popularity, unless someone knows more behind the scenes stuff such as unique visitors and such stuff.

Post by takashichea (11,968 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@gillagorilla:

Comic Vine used to cover American comics, but it started to branch out and cover foreign comics including Japanese manga. Pika Hyper aims to cover all foreign comic books in Comic Vine. For Anime Vice, we're only covering Japanese manga and animation with a few exceptions such as Legend of Avatar the Last Airbender.

  • Comic Vine - covers all comics
  • Screened - covers all movies and tv shows which also covers anime
  • Giant Bomb - covers all games
  • Anime Vice - covers anime and manga.

If you think about it, Anime Vice covers a smaller portion.

As for popularity, it's a small growing community with a small staff. After Whiskey Media split off, Anime Vice lost a lot of folks. The community, my teammates including me, and the staff are doing everything we can to promote this place.

In addition to competition, don't forget about the Wikia communities. They're pretty powerful. I've been on the front lines.

Boy, we went off tangent. This blog was supposed to about bridging the gap between Comic Vine and Anime Vice. We need to help each other. I'm doing wiki stuff over there sometimes.

Post by Daniel_Newton (3,213 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@gillagorilla: There are two reasons you can find manga on Comic Vine. Firstly, Comic Vine has been around a few years longer than the other sites, and to my knowledge there was never a "no manga" rule over there, so they had some manga in their database.

Secondly, and the biggest point you appear to have missed; Anime Vice and Comic Vine are no longer sister sites. Whiskey Media was split and bought by two different companies: CBSi - which now owns Giant Bomb and Comic Vine, and BermanBraun - which now owns Tested, Anime Vice and Screened (and they also acquired the framework used to build the Whiskey Media sites and the bulk of the website engineers). Since the split some Comic Vine users have decided to start adding more manga to the wiki over there.

@gillagorilla said:

I think that the huge drop-off is explainable due to the fact that Anime Vice doesn't really come up in Google searches (that I have noticed).

Actually, around half (probably more now) of the traffic for Anime Vice comes from Google. Back when Anime Vice had no rule against adult images Google eventually blacklisted the site (in other words, Google considered Anime Vice a porn site so it only appeared in searches with "SafeSearch" turned off) the site lost half of it's traffic so we had to remove the adult images to get back in Google's good books.

I see Anime Vice popping up in Google search results quite a lot, particularly when you search for an anime character AV often appears on page 1 and I bump into images from here on Google Images all the time.

As for how many views each of the sites get, they're still listed together on quantcast.

Post by gillagorilla (6 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Sorry for the tangent, I didn't really mean to derail it like that. Foreign comics should by all means be including in Comic Vine. I just added a sorely missing entry that took about 3 days, since I had to get the page add approved, and then the volume approved before I could add stuff, when then took a day to be approved. Don't take this as complaining because it is not. I added It Was the War of the Trenches by Jacques Tardi that was translated and released by Fantagraphics Books in 2010. It was weird because they had his two other lesser-known books released by them up but not that one. Sadly, most of the foreign comics (which are just normal comics to them) haven't been translated or have only been translated in bits and pieces that have been out of print for ages.

I actually had kind of realized that the two companies had split off (are they still in the process?) since I couldn't get to GB and CV through the bottom of the site, but from CV I could get to GB and vice versa. However, I don't remember ever signing up for GB, Screened or Anime Vice, but my sign in for CV worked across all of them and it still all said Whiskey Media. Oddly, enough someone had followed 16 people on each one, that I promptly unfollowed, since I knew none of them. So, maybe someone stole my account and signed up (IDK).

Finally, with the Google thing, I guess I just never clicked on them. On the rare occasions that I do click on a character, it is usually one that I don't know about (so I want something that I wouldn't have to worry about spoilers if I read a lot of the page, MAL or Wikipedia) or ones that I do know about in which case I shoot for that character's anime's wiki. I think I will probably start to use this more (alongside MAL), since you do some things that I like better than MAL and they do it vice versa. I am crazy about lists, so that is what brought me to the original grouping of sites (mainly CV). My MAL is just over 2000 manga and anime that I have collected that I look interesting (but is completely unorganized, just like my IMDB and old Flixster). Also, it is extremely limiting for favorites and keeping track of your favorite people in the industry (which I have to use bookmarks for, which sucks). Well, keep up the good work and I hope to help out where I can. I haven't watched or read a lot recently because I can't multi-task shows with subtitles. I really only keep up the Big 3 (since it is habitual at this point) and Shingeki no Kyojin (which is monthly and I often forget about). Unless it is weekly, I have trouble remembering it (like I forgot about Soul Eater). Well, there is my personal tidbit. At least I like the obscure stuff, which often gets overlooked.

p.s. I was looking to add some of Tsutomu Nihei's one-shots, but I got stumped when asking to add it. Say I was to add Digimortal, what would I put for Book Name (what it was published in?)?

Post by takashichea (11,968 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@gillagorilla:

Sorry for the late reply. I was busy with the winter anime 2013 trailers.

Oddly, enough someone had followed 16 people on each one, that I promptly unfollowed, since I knew none of them. So, maybe someone stole my account and signed up (IDK).

When we make an account in the former Whiskey Media sites, we are given a set number of people that the staff has us followed from the start.

The number of folks differ.

p.s. I was looking to add some of Tsutomu Nihei's one-shots, but I got stumped when asking to add it. Say I was to add Digimortal, what would I put for Book Name (what it was published in?)?

Regarding your question, I checked Digimortal on ANN. It only had one volume. Some manga volumes don't have an individual name to them. If it doesn't, just put down volume 1 for the volume's title. Publisher would Shueisha.

Post by pikahyper (19 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea: o.o

Post by takashichea (11,968 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@pikahyper:

Recent Experiences in Comic Vine/ PikaHyper

My apologies. I realized the title wasn't thought out and implied something else. That was embarrassing. Don't worry, I changed it.

Post by pikahyper (19 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea: still kinda creepy :P

Post by takashichea (11,968 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@pikahyper:

Oh, when you add new volume issues to the manga series page, don't forget to add the volume cover images to the gallery.

Since we don't have an image button, just type image at the end of the URL:

http://www.animevice.com/blade-of-the-immortal/15-410/images/

I'm glad to see you here.

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