Watch & Learn: TRIGUN #7

Topic started by No_name_here on Nov. 27, 2010. Last post by zaldar 3 years, 9 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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  Vash's outfit looks postively practical in comparison to this episode's heavy's.
 Vash's outfit looks postively practical in comparison to this episode's heavy's.

Vash should've listened to Johnny Cash! If you can't trust "a boy named Sue," then you better not trust a little lad named Kaite. And that kid should've paid attention to ROBOCOP 2.  He would've learned that any lil' gangster is just asking to get wasted by whatever  grown-up bad guys he's colluding with. Man, and speaking of whom, I didn't catch this scumbag's name, but he had to have had one of the silliest-looking outfits I've seen outside of ZARDOZ.  A lot of snark gets leveled at superheroes for their ridiculous costumes, and a lot of times it's deserved, but the shoe’s definitely on the other foot with this guy. Just what was up with those turbines on his shoulders? Also, I'm all for the out-and-out diabolical, but this dude's characterization was "evil" to the point of cartoonish. His plan didn't even make sense of a madman; it just seemed like they were trying to think of the easiest ways to make this guy nasty for nasty's sake. 

It took five episodes for Vash to actually use a gun - - is this the first time he actually gets hurt?  
When he got thwacked on the head with that duct, it seemed notable. Although, the one time he didn't get hurt was pretty amusing, too; that is, when the kid tried to put him into a standing arm bar. I’ve practiced Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for a few years and have always wondered why locks, chokes and submission holds aren’t used more often in fiction. Granted, ground fighting can make for some poor spectacle, but I think you can get a lot of mileage out of quicker-acting-than-in-reality holds that break bones and conk bad guys out. Especially for a character as leery about killing like Vash, I figure that'd be a way to keep the blood off his hands without him looking like a wuss. 

Ooooooh… and we've reached out first cliffhanger. Guess we’re finally into the "real" story now, aren't we?

Watch this episode, “B.D.N.” below and decide for yourself, then read my comments on the previous episode here  

    

Tom Pinchuk’s the writer of  HYBRID BASTARDS!  &  UNIMAGINABLE . Order them on Amazon   here  &   here .  Follow him on Twitter:  @tompinchuk

Post by meaninoflife42 (2 posts) See mini bio Level 15
Johnny Cash was in fact right.
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,643 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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Does Brazilian Jiu Jitsu share any similarities to Capoeira, other than region of creation? It's such a beautiful martial arts style. Binds and locks are highly effective. More so if your opponent is using a ranged weapons, such as a gun. They just don't have the same visual appeal as a punch of gun shot, and you need to be able to get within arms reach of your target and pull it off without anyone else noticing. You then have to go through the trouble of explaining how the person isn't dead. Also, I can speak from experience that it's tricky to draw two people in close contact, such as that. It can be awkward to draw something as simple as two people kissing. That's because you have to make sure your proportions stay in balance, the heads have to be just the right distance, and the mouth's have to align.
 
Binds just don't fall into the whole "BAM & POW" mentality that most comic readers expect. I see Vash's unwillingness to never kill as rather intriguing. How he takes care of others despite being seriously injured. It raises the interesting question about, what is the reason he is just so scared about killing?
 
I remember these episodes had a rather interesting progression to them. They lead from one theme almost seamlessly into the next. A couple episodes ago, Vash was in a town that was hunting him down so they could get the money to repair the power plant. The episode after that, the engineers arrived in a train to work on the plant, and in this episode. That train is being used to carry Vash to the next town. Even how this story eventually ends is led into the following. It has a nice sense of causality.
It's the lack of that has been frustrating me more and more in the mainstream comic titles. I've been having regular debates about the issue with a person via Twitter for a while. Though, I think a better description would be a "mutual disagreement of ideals". lol
 
(Damn, I went on here. O_o?)
Post by gla55jAw (109 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@FoxxFireArt 
 
If I'm not mistaken, Capoeira is more of a dance art, while Brizillian Jiu Jitsu, is based off Japanese Jiu Jitsu and is a fighting art about grappling, joint locks and self defense.
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,643 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@gla55jAw: 
I wasn't asking if they are the same thing. I know the main differences. I was asking about any similarities they may share.
Post by gla55jAw (109 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@FoxxFireArt said:
" @gla55jAw:  I wasn't asking if they are the same thing. I know the main differences. I was asking about any similarities they may share. "
Gottchya, I'm no expert in either hahaha sorry. I'm pretty sure the the only similarity is what you said, they're from the same place
Post by Lurkero (410 posts) See mini bio Level 7
Yeah, Trigun is definitely filled with 90's looking villains. There are plenty more to come.
Post by zaldar (1,272 posts) See mini bio Level 15

the nineties looking villans can be the best part though...I love Zardoz for that actually.  Crazy costumes for the win...got to give something for people to enjoy cosplaying as ;).
Post by darfox8 (25 posts) See mini bio Level 6
I've always liked Brilliant Dynamites Neon (the name of the villian). To me he was as absurd as a wrestling heel(kinda reminds me of The Rock, actually) but actually villainous and murderous. The next episode they reveal slightly more of Vash's character.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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@FoxxFireArt said:
" Does Brazilian Jiu Jitsu share any similarities to Capoeira, other than region of creation? It's such a beautiful martial arts style.   
Not really. BJJ's what you mostly see on UFC. Capoeira more of a folk ceremonial performance.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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@lurkero said:
" Yeah, Trigun is definitely filled with 90's looking villains. There are plenty more to come. "
I'll be sure to pull up some Real McCoy on my playlist.
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@zaldar said:
" the nineties looking villans can be the best part though...I love Zardoz for that actually.  Crazy costumes for the win...got to give something for people to enjoy cosplaying as ;). "
I suppose I have been neglecting the concerns of the cosplay contingency in these reviews.
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@darfox8 said:
" I've always liked Brilliant Dynamites Neon (the name of the villian). To me he was as absurd as a wrestling heel(kinda reminds me of The Rock, actually) but actually villainous and murderous.
When you break it down that way, he's not 500X more rad.
Post by zaldar (1,272 posts) See mini bio Level 15
ahh you mean tom you don't like professional wresteling.  Heh.  Oh your zardoz link didn't work by the way....not sure why.  
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/  this one does though...I may need to go watch that movie again it is so overly ridiculous....its just great.  I have had this handle in various places for many years but I think I actually picked it up from that movie somehow...not exactly sure now (it was the 80's after all)
Post by sotyfan16 (1,341 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@FoxxFireArt: @Tom_Pinchuk:
BJJ is pretty cool. I trained for about 8 years in Tae Kwon Do and about a year in Krav Maga (which is what the Israeli Military is trained in). The stuff in tough but very useful and interesting. The only series I know that has actual hand-to-hand combat is Baki the Grappler.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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@zaldar said:
" ahh you mean tom you don't like professional wresteling.  Heh.  Oh your zardoz link didn't work by the way....not sure why.   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/  this one does though...I may need to go watch that movie again it is so overly ridiculous....its just great.  I have had this handle in various places for many years but I think I actually picked it up from that movie somehow...not exactly sure now (it was the 80's after all) "
Ha ha... I mean now more 500x rad.
Post by zaldar (1,272 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Dang right!  I am the 500x rad member of your harem (that would make me the cool guy with the dark glasses right?)
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