Watch & Learn: TRIGUN #5

Topic started by No_name_here on Nov. 26, 2010. Last post by Lemegeton300 3 years, 9 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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 Does this guy look like a mellow surfer dude to you? Don't judge a book by its cover.
 Does this guy look like a mellow surfer dude to you? Don't judge a book by its cover.

Those insurance agents are cuties, but they’ve got to be especially dense if it’s taken them this long (even five episodes) to realize that Vash is actually Vash. He’s done all these amazing things, and there was still doubt?  I figured it was a running joke, but c'mon...

Anyway, this episode  definitely an answer to the issues I had about the previous one.  While the last felt vague to the point of dissonant, this was like a good COWBOY BEBOP episode in that it was structured like a good joke. Set-up, reversal, punchline, and all that.  It's an comically-tragic situation that Vash is betrayed by the villagers he saved, only to really have no recourse to retaliate since they really need the double dollar bounty on him.  I’m reminded of that classic philosophical paradox of the knife that never cuts; or, more specifically, the shaolin monks who use every moment of their lives to train in deadly combat that they're strictly barred from partaking in.  

 This toy.
 This toy.

I’m seeing two traditions developing here.  The first is Vash's pseudo-catchphrase about the world being made of "love and peace." The second is the random introduction of hideous, evil giants in these conflicts. This time it’s the Nebraska family and that monster with the rocket hand reminded me a whole hell of a lot of Tremor from SPAWN. Sheesh… I picked up the first toy line in the early 90s, like every other kid, and his action figure’s gimmick was a fist that’d shoot out. As you’d expect, I broke it pretty quickly, so I had an odd bit of recognition when this freak's string gets permanently strung out by Vash.

Anyway, I’m still not seeing what the larger plot is here, but I’m digging Vash’s mellow, peaceful and flippant personality. It's certainly unique, and not something you'd ever expect from the looks of him.

Watch this episode, “Hard Puncher,” below and decide for yourself, then read my comments on the previous episode here  

      

Tom Pinchuk’s the writer of  HYBRID BASTARDS!  &  UNIMAGINABLE . Order them on Amazon   here  &   here .  Follow him on Twitter:  @tompinchuk 

Post by SamJaz (12,708 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Plot starts next episode.
Post by zaldar (1,264 posts) See mini bio Level 15
and it gets entertaining fast.
Post by ninjadude853 (464 posts) See mini bio Level 12
This is my second favorite episode so far. The best being episode 12. 
 
Also, as to why the girls didn't realize Vash really was Vash? Milly always understood who he was, and Meyrl took so long to figure it out because she had always imagined Vash the Stampede as a horrible brutal fiend and instead it was... y'know, Vash.
Post by darfox8 (25 posts) See mini bio Level 6
I really liked how this episode was the first he ever used his gun. It may be a little weird sine the show is called Trigun and the main character carries around a huge gun, but I think it worked very well.
 
Oh and Yasuhiro Nightow(dude who created Trigun) seems to be a huge McFarlane fan. In the manga the Volumes would end with these skits about him drawing the manga(usually focusing on how lazy he is and how much his editor has to dog him) and sometimes there'd be some Spawn references.
Post by gla55jAw (109 posts) See mini bio Level 13
The part I never understood was Vash takes all that time to move the women out of the rubble, who seem to be passed out, but when the giant Nebraska guy goes to shoot his hand, they all get up to get out of the way.
Post by sickVisionz (4,288 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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This is the episode that sealed the deal for me completing the series.  I'm glad you enjoyed it.
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@SamJaz said:
" Plot starts next episode. "
Ha ha... I love how there's a clearly-delineated point where the story actually begins.
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@ninjadude853 said:
" This is my second favorite episode so far. The best being episode 12.     
I'll keep that in mind when I get to that episode.@ninjadude853 said:
Also, as to why the girls didn't realize Vash really was Vash? Milly always understood who he was, and Meyrl took so long to figure it out because she had always imagined Vash the Stampede as a horrible brutal fiend and instead it was... y'know, Vash. "
Ah... so she was in denial.
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@darfox8 said:
 I really liked how this episode was the first he ever used his gun. It may be a little weird sine the show is called Trigun and the main character carries around a huge gun...
Yeah, it is kind of puzzling. Like what I was saying about the pacifist warrior monks.@darfox8 said:
 Oh and Yasuhiro Nightow(dude who created Trigun) seems to be a huge McFarlane fan. In the manga the Volumes would end with these skits about him drawing the manga(usually focusing on how lazy he is and how much his editor has to dog him) and sometimes there'd be some Spawn references. 
Ahhhh... that makes a lot of sense.
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@gla55jAw said:
" The part I never understood was Vash takes all that time to move the women out of the rubble, who seem to be passed out, but when the giant Nebraska guy goes to shoot his hand, they all get up to get out of the way. "
Yeah, I was confused too. I thought they were supposed to be dead.
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@sickVisionz said:
" This is the episode that sealed the deal for me completing the series.  I'm glad you enjoyed it. "
Well, like I said, I've always been committed to finishing it (lest I face the wrath of its fanbase!)
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,642 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@Tom_Pinchuk: 
I think you might of been a bit harsh on the idea of how Meryl hasn't been able to believe that he is truly Vash. You're seeing this through the omnipresent eyes of the audience. You've gotten to see everything he's been doing.
 
Meryl is seeing this through her own eyes and the stories of Vash the Stamped. She's heard stories of Vash being an ungodly monster of a man. She's only seen the real Vash as a bafoon who got through things but the skin of his teeth or what she thought were accidents. Only here she seems him open up and not even trying to hide himself. She's seen the evidence of all the rumors. A perfect example is when she's still trying to deny it by reciting all the rumors to herself, but the camera showing all the parts she's saying are here.
I guess you could compare it to Lois Lane. Sometimes she saw Clark do something amazing, but did it in such a way to make it seem accidental. If you want to start comparing obtuse characters. Only thing separating Clark and Superman was a pair of glasses. She fell for that bit for about fifty years.
 
I remember this episode well. It had some great art direction. One of my favorite shots was that slow-mo of Vash trying to get his gun out of the holster and you see the reflection on the panicking women trying to get away.
There was also the scene of Vash taking those shots. I don't think many directors would pull out the audio of a gun shot, but keeping that tense music sets the perfect "will he make it in time" mood.
 
@Tom_Pinchuk said:
" @gla55jAw said:
" The part I never understood was Vash takes all that time to move the women out of the rubble, who seem to be passed out, but when the giant Nebraska guy goes to shoot his hand, they all get up to get out of the way. "
Yeah, I was confused too. I thought they were supposed to be dead. "
I always found their sudden revival odd, but it makes for better drama when they are trying to run away. It creates more peril for the hero.
Post by AnimeAlex (29 posts) See mini bio Level 8
One of the finer episodes.
Post by Lemegeton300 (300 posts) See mini bio Level 10
i really liked this episode and trigun really starts to kick off from here
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