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" @zaldar: They are of two different origins, but they are under the exact same classification. The personal preference you have adopted does not make these two types of cartoons of separate categories. See the implication I see here is that American comics offered you superheroes and they are not delivering what anime is. OK, but how many comics companies are you aware of? Also, are the superhero comics and cartoons of your youth the same as the ones that are put out now? Stuff like Batman: The animated Series was a very sophisticated cartoon for me, even in comparison to all the anime I have watched over the years. Now there is something like Avatar: The Last Airbender, which is not anime in the sense that it was not made by Japanese hands, but I hold it in as high a regard as I do some of the best anime ever made. "Ah but it is not just my personal preference. As you can see from the rest of this thread most people have also adopted this personal preference as you call it. Now we may all be wrong, but categories of art are always open to interpretation and defined by the populous. Impression and classicism are both paintings but very very different. As much really as Cartoons are from Anime. Yes they are both cartoons in a broad sense but they are both NOT Cartoons. Yes no American comics really are delivering what anime is, now some graphic novels I have read recently are. Sandman, and others like it are quite good. And like Anime I don't consider them Comics. (Though they are comics ;) ). I am aware of most of the main comic creators but I am sure some smaller ones are not known to me. No the ones of my youth are not the same as now obviously (I am 32 so a lot of time has passed) though honestly even when I was young I didn't consider Batman the animated series sophisticated, it was more sophisticated than say He-Man but then so was watching slime mold...and as I have said elsewhere I was reading Tolkien at that time...so my standards were pretty high. If you consider that as sophisticated as say something like eva, or lain...than I'm not sure we can even debate anymore..as our standards are just to different. The fact that you hold Avatar in the same group as the best anime ever made...well that just shows you need to watch more anime...have you seen Here and There, Then and Now, Lain, Hanibai Renmei, or even Le Chevalier D'Eon? Any one of these is light years better than Avatar. Now don't get me wrong Avatar is a great show and is MUCH more sophisticated than most American cartoons (and some anime...pokemon for example) with people switching sides and having moral dilemmas. But up there with the best anime...well thats just crazy talk.
" @YotaruVegeta said:Like G.I. Joe being called G.I. Joo in Japan!" Trick question! Everything counts as anime, because anime simply means animation."I'm almost positive that people still get mad when you call anime cartoons, regardless of technical correctness. That's why we use the foreign terms to colloquially mean from the respective countries of origin. Likewise we don't use foreign terms with English when it conveys little meaning...except Spanglish, but f*ck Spanglish. "
" @oishi_47 said:" @YotaruVegeta said:Like G.I. Joe being called G.I. Joo in Japan! "" Trick question! Everything counts as anime, because anime simply means animation."I'm almost positive that people still get mad when you call anime cartoons, regardless of technical correctness. That's why we use the foreign terms to colloquially mean from the respective countries of origin. Likewise we don't use foreign terms with English when it conveys little meaning...except Spanglish, but f*ck Spanglish. "