Watch & Learn: TIGER & BUNNY #25

Topic started by No_name_here on Sept. 20, 2011. Last post by ninjapanther 2 years, 10 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (855 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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"Never let go..."
"Never let go..."

I bow my head to you, TIGER & BUNNY. You got me. For the first time in a long time, I actually fell for it like a proper mark. I thought your main character was dead for sure, I thought you had the gall to actually do that and I was then genuinely surprised when you showed a certain shirtless mech-man rising up behind a certain memory-rewriting bastard.

Let me tell you, it felt good to feel some actual tension in a show without the usual damp blanket of spoilers and predetermined certainties. It might sound strange to voice appreciate about this, but I can’t understate how satisfying it was to see some actual, you know, resolution in the last episode of a show for once, too.

No cop-out played off as a “challenging” ending. No messy plotting resulting from the budget or source material running out. If TIGER & BUNNY ties things up into too neat of bow for some viewers, then I say boo. In this case, I’d rather an anime pull off a simple forward roll than attempt some obscure virtuoso trick on the parallel bars and wind up falling on its face. Characters wound up at the points their arcs were angling for (even the annoying gnats of HERO TV got redemption! Villains haven't saved the day so awesomely since the T-Rex at the end of JURASSIC PARK) and then, when all the main stuff was properly resolved, a few little crumbs were left out to wet the palette for more adventures.

And I do feel confident that there will be more. Even if I didn’t know about those reports that Sunrise is considering a second season based on the surprise ratings, I’d stand by my earlier assertion that this show’s going blow up in the West once it gets a proper dub and presentation.

I’m saving my final thoughts for the forthcoming video but, suffice it to say, this was the most satisfying conclusion I've seen for a show in a while. Still, please, pop some questions into the talkback below which you’d like to my address on camera for the forthcoming lookback.

Watch these episodes "Eternal Immortality” below, decide for yourself and then read my comments on the previous episode here.

Tom Pinchuk’s the writer of HYBRID BASTARDS! & UNIMAGINABLE. Order them on Amazon here & here. Follow him on Twitter: @tompinchuk

Post by Lurkero (405 posts) See mini bio Level 7

I agree that the show did conclude well, but the problem is that it concluded the WRONG PLOT!

The plot went in a completely different direction than what I wanted for the series. The second half of the season barely consisted of them fighting actual criminals. Most of the time was spent fighting Maverick and each other. I wanted the series to be more about what it means to be a hero even though heroism has been commercialized. Kotetsu was losing his powers but still wanted to be a righteous hero. Would he be able to handle it? It seemed like that's the angle they were going for when Lunatic showed up, but we see where that plot went...

WTF!? Lunatic! What happened!? They went the trouble of revealing his interesting back story and then...NOTHING! He showed up to save Kotetsu and then at the end to kill Maverick (a not satisfying death by the way. Maverick was nothing at that point). Lunatic barely did anything for 12 episodes!

I'm glad the series ended well, but disappointed it ended wrong.

Post by metalsnakezero (670 posts) See mini bio Level 16

Since it is a original anime, they were able to set things up nicely and have a ending that works. I still stand by the "assume your own ending situations" with other shows but this is one that ended good and in a way that sets up a season 2 if they do one.

Post by Marshal Victory (2,139 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@Lurkero:

This is the problem with good shows like this. if a plot hits you right where you like you want more.An that colors the rest of the series for a person.Instead of enjoying the ride one ends up wishing for a difrent road traveled.I could have stood it going darker tone plot to. But in the end with anime i take the show as it is not where i thik its gona go or where i want it to go.

This show as i have said before has been one of my faves this season .It pulled off things tho animated versions of The big two super heros wouldnt have. Held suspense an disbelief long enuff to give you a good ride.All the while not takeing it self to seriously.It poked fun at itself, peoples fantisies of it,as well as pop culture from video games to science fiction.

One of the few shows where one of the main characters gets teh tar kicked outa them .One of the few shows where Its mix of comedy an action flows an is not forced.To me it felt like they were going for broke story wise seting things up an surprised they were still standing by the end of the season.

The shows just enuff to make you want more.Fooled you just enuff not to make you mad at it. As well as Being flawed not only in subtiles but direction you want .Yet good enuff that it makes the super hero fan/comic book reader inside of you cheer.As well as wish comics were this good .

Tom has it right over with this one.I was convinced at 24 tiger was dead. Anime makes no bones about grinding up their main characters.Part of its charm actualy.I say If this was produced by a american animation comapny it wouldnt have been half as good.Partialy becasue one would think" gee they cant kill off tiger think of the toy line".Instead of neat stories any more were treated to marketing .Where as with Tiger & Bunny we have a neat story with advertisments like a nascar drivers suit on the heroes an it makes sence.I can see shades of or influances of .. http://www.comicvine.com/mystery-men/223-164/ sure .An yet its not realy a team show.The "heroes" actualy compete against each other.

Tho i have to ask... who else laughed at "the minute man" ?

Post by Daroki (86 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Tom, quick question, does Tiger & Bunny need a name change on it's way across the pond? I have a hard time seeing it keep the name.

Post by Kuro_San (1,338 posts) See mini bio Level 11

TIGER is Freaking awesome!

Post by LifeByDegrees (16 posts) See mini bio Level 7

I really want Lunatic to stay what he is- a strong secondary character who does what he wants to do.

If you over play him- he just becomes another bad-guy gone good that you can't take seriously- or a good guy doing bad that won't have a decent interaction with either the main characters or the audience.

Post by zaldar (1,253 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Heh I prefer the challenging endings that give you things to talk about more. I expect you are correct and this will blow up in the West as it plays to our tastes in Saturday morning fair. I honestly wish they had, the balls to kill off the main character. One of the things I like about anime (as opposed to american stuff especially comics) is that if you die, you generally stay dead.

Post by buhssuht (223 posts) See mini bio Level 19

I was actually hoping Kotetsu would die, not because I hate him or anything, but I wanted to see if the studio was brave enough to do it.

Post by chickdigger802 (39 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@Lurkero said:

I agree that the show did conclude well, but the problem is that it concluded the WRONG PLOT!

The plot went in a completely different direction than what I wanted for the series. The second half of the season barely consisted of them fighting actual criminals. Most of the time was spent fighting Maverick and each other. I wanted the series to be more about what it means to be a hero even though heroism has been commercialized. Kotetsu was losing his powers but still wanted to be a righteous hero. Would he be able to handle it? It seemed like that's the angle they were going for when Lunatic showed up, but we see where that plot went...

WTF!? Lunatic! What happened!? They went the trouble of revealing his interesting back story and then...NOTHING! He showed up to save Kotetsu and then at the end to kill Maverick (a not satisfying death by the way. Maverick was nothing at that point). Lunatic barely did anything for 12 episodes!

I'm glad the series ended well, but disappointed it ended wrong.

Yeah the whole lunatic thing seems like poor management. Probably moving the Lunatic flashback to season 2 would have been a better move.

Post by ComicMan24 (8,759 posts) See mini bio Level 12

I finished watching it a few days ago and I liked it quite a lot. I really hope that there will be a second season, there are things that can't be shown there, especially after that scene with the bill in the finale. But I agree with people here saying that Lunatic was underused after his appearance. Maybe if there is a second, we will see more of him. Plus I liked that it had an ending, I don't really like the "leave it to the viewer to decide" endings. My favourite character of the show was Tiger by far and I honestly thought he was dead back then lol

Post by ninjapanther (12 posts) See mini bio Level 7

This show was really awesome and I hope they will make more episodes because I really like it and its very interesting to watch.

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