LEGEND OF THE LEGENDARY HEROES - - DVD Review

Topic started by No_name_here on June 3, 2012. Last post by zaldar 2 years, 1 month ago.
Post by No_name_here (854 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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Perhaps you can’t judge a book by its cover, but experience has shown that you can quite often judge an anime by its title. The preponderance of lame shows with telltale grammar problems - - needless punctuation marks, odd capitalizations, intentional misspellings and the like - - will attest to that. To whit, here’s LEGEND OF THE LEGENDARY HEROES, a title with a redundancy that’d make my fifth grade English teacher very, very upset. A title that’s more of a warning than an invitation.

At first, this sounded like it was going for the same sort of tongue-in-cheek humor as parodies like THE ICE PIRATES or some such. After actually watching the show, I have the glum conclusion that, somehow, nobody involved was actually in on the joke.

Well, maybe somebody was - - but then they either left the show after the first episode or were kicked off of it.

Anyway, this seemed like it be a gentle goof on shows like RECORD OF LODOSS WAR and their dubious ambitions of directly translating the RPG experience into an on-screen narrative. There were a couple of self-effacing jokes in the first episode with just that tone, actually. Now, those jokes seem more like bait to lure a curious viewer, like myself, into watching something which demonstrates just how terribly disinteresting RPG plots are when presented anywhere outside of the gaming scenario.

It’s taken me much longer than usual to get around to writing this review, and I’ve been thinking about Wolpaw’s Law the whole time. You’re all familiar with Wolpaw’s Law, right? Like a good title, it carries some ripe connotations with it (hell, it even sounds like a magic-binding rule from a fantasy RPG.) It was coined by an associate of our old associates.

Basically, the idea is that a game reviewer doesn’t necessarily have to beat a title in order to give it a poor review. If the game is so awful that it can’t even motivate the player to continue on, then there’s next to no chance that it’ll ever improve enough to affect the reviewing score. A decisive, qualitative conclusion can be made fairly early on.

The same thinking applies to serialized anime. Many users here have chided me for dismissing a show after the first episode in my Watch & Learn column.

“But wait!” they’ll exclaim. “It gets so much better after the seventh episode!”

The logic never seemed to hold.

I haven’t gotten to review too many long-form series in the format you’re currently reading - - one where I’ll view a batch of episodes at once instead of writing about them, one at a time. Technically, I’m using a version of Wolpaw’s Law. Even if I like a show, I’m still basing that recommendation on a sampling.

I still really wanted to invoke the law, because I had the hardest time getting through to episode six. Somehow, despite the crisp and flashy animation, there was nothing in this show that made enough of an impression on me to recall it after viewing; let alone to write about it.

I wanted to be done, and I wanted to move on, and that feeling hasn’t changed. I haven’t bothered to summarize this show or enumerate my specific complaints, because doing so is harder than it needs to be - - it's just like trying to play a game that’s constantly crashing your system.

LEGEND OF THE LEGENDARY HEROES wasn’t a charming fantasy parody. It felt like a furtive stab at epic fantasy from the ill-defined imagination of a fifth grader doodling in his binder while his teacher - - the one who’s so mean about grammar - - is looking elsewhere. It went in one ear and right out the other and, in some respects, that’s actually worse than being memorably bad.

Post by sickVisionz (4,234 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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At first, this sounded like it was going for the same sort of tongue-in-cheek humor as parodies like THE ICE PIRATES or some such. After actually watching the show, I have the glum conclusion that, somehow, nobody involved was actually in on the joke.

That sucks. I was interested in this show because the name was so stupid that I figured it was going to be some goofball parody comedy.

I still really wanted to invoke the law, because I had the hardest time getting through to episode six.

This is depressing. Not because the show was so bad that you could barely get through six episodes, but because you gave this crap show six episodes but have dropped other legitimately high quality titles after one.

Post by valfranx (194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@ SickVisionz : I agree.

Post by Lurkero (399 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Somehow, despite the crisp and flashy animation, there was nothing in this show that made enough of an impression on me to recall it after viewing; let alone to write about it.

Please do not feel compelled to descriptively write about something that was so uninteresting to you that you have little will to waste time remembering what you saw.

People often use the excuse that "it gets so good after episode...", but in my opinion I expect something to get BETTER after episode... not GOOD.

I too thought the title of LotLH implied some form of parody. I don't want to waste time watching a generically serious fantasy anime.

Post by PenguinDust (1,008 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Choosing to stick with a show or jettison it after the first episode is going to remain a divisive issue I guess, so I'm not going restate my opinions on the subject again other than to say if I followed that rule I would have never gotten to enjoy Darker Than Black as I am right now. As for Legend-yadda-yadda, I liked it for adding a strong political subplot to the fantasy setting. You don't see the politics of the crown played out in anime too often (Utawarerumono comes to mind). It also had some humor which appeals to my tastes. The ending was a bit open-ended, but I doubt we'll see a sequel at this point.

Post by Marshal Victory (1,925 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Hmm here i thought it was a final fantasy semi parody.Watched it as such an for its gene its not below average.Animation is good an some of the comedy is good.Its just a slow burner.An then they end things on a cliff hanger kinda.An that is poor form since their is no season 2.

Would i buy it on dvd ? Maybe .Depends on the price.Its a good solid c+ show.But nothing more.I like the idea of how one guy was gona take over the country.An how as his plans progressed he became what he fought against.

Slow burner, slow cooker how ever you want to say it .Its takes a while for it to get rolling.Id guess about 1/3rd of anime i have watched has been this way.But lucky me.I have more time then common sense.

But maybe the light novels the anime is based on is bit better?I mean they would have to be right? They have as of 28 January 2011, the light novels have sold over 4,300,000 copies.

Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13

I was going to say, "The title didn't tip you off?" But then you said it.

Point being, the title was almost as indicative of the product's quality as "Tentacle and Witches". Not... Not that I would know or anything... What were we talking about?

Oh right, MORE YU YU HAKUSHO! YOU'RE SO CLOSE TO YOUR GOAL!

Post by zaldar (1,236 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Yeah I would never by a C+ show Marshal...has to be an A for me to even consider it. A c+ show I won't even finishing watching to much good stuff out there.

I do have to say though that when done well (and improved on) RPG plots can work in other mediums. Lodoss war is quite enjoyable (a B show) and the Drizzit novels are good B fantasy novels.

Post by Marshal Victory (1,925 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@zaldar: When i say C+ i mean its just above average .Which makes it better than watching most network tv.Reality shows for the fail etc.Ya id agree on your other grades to an id much rather watch Lodoss war than LoLH.

Thing is how much of anime would you consider a A Rated show?10% maybe?For me their has to be some filler .An i want that filler to be at least a bit better than average.Its all a subjective sliding scale any way.I would buy LoLh if it was in the 20$-ish range an i had already finished my wish list of anime .An id much rather buy Lodoss war than LoLH to.

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,638 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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The title pretty much screams bland, but it also seems like a missed opportunity to make something that's more of a parody of all the fantasy cliches. You'd need a pretty good satirical writer for that. That's something we are seriously lacking these days.

Mel Brooks is probably one of the best. He was able to lampoon so many classic genres. BLAZING SADDLES, SPACE BALLS, YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN and even ROBIN HOOD, MEN IN TIGHTS. Satire has devolved to the point where it's more about who can parody the biggest movie crazy and add in pointless celebrity cameos, ala VAMPIRES SUCK or the later SCARY MOVIE films. Maybe part of the problem is that they've serialized these films. Where Brooks were always stand alones.

I would like to see a fantasy anime really go for the fourth wall and acknowledge concepts like their HP and MP, even status effects. That these aren't abstract game mechanics but how the universe works. Some do it to the extend of DRAGON BALL Z with the power levels.

Post by Marshal Victory (1,925 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@FoxxFireArt: Yeah thinking back on watching this on hulu it kinda does not fit as a parody.Or Maybe its meant to be a riff on those fantasy anime.Tho i think id differ from others on it being bland now to.Not many fantasy stories dig into aftermaths of magical wars.Yes you have your go here postal quest in most .Magical Mcguffins an what not.But LoLH does seem to me to have a neat history.

But i will defend the slow burners in anime.Many a show in US tv has slow starts an given time grow into cult followings. Some of them have been remade had movies based on them anl spin offs to.As well as numbers well beyond their 1st few shows.Seems LoLH may be their to as its getting good reviews on amazon.

An on third look the last paragraph in the review reminded me of Bleach.Tho i have watched all of the 366 episodes. It always reminded me of something i would draw in high school.An no i dont think Tom was being to ruff with the shows review.Reviews are about opinion .

Post by zaldar (1,236 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Marshal Victory: A rated shows, eva, lain, Hanibai Renmei. *shrug* and if I'm not watching an a or b level anime show I'm going to be watching an A or B cable TV show or play an A or B game or reading an A or B book. To much good stuff out their in different mediums to watch something average in any.

Post by Marshal Victory (1,925 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@zaldar: True .But consider this, what may be a C+ show to me maybe to you B or above if your in the right mood for the show.The list i work on are anime i have watched threw to the end .Tho some are at least half way point if it is ongoing an their in my opinion well above average.Those i do watch to the end as well.

Their has been many a anime i have started to watch an just stopped .Be it for one reason or another.An ya i play online games (mmorpgs or fps) or watch movies or catch a few tv shows on hulu.But its like any thing else be it movie reviews or game reviews. if it grabs your fancy by all means you should check it out for your self.The name of this anime taints it a bit for some.Expectations an what not.

Post by zaldar (1,236 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Marshal Victory: Ah I play a good many computer games rpg and tbs and I have cable so lot of choices. Certainly a show can be different depending on your mood but this doesn't look like it would ever work for me. Think I'll go curl up with a good Bradbury fantasy...

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