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Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Madara Uchiha VS. Sosuke Aizen

@taichokage: Im almost certain all he did was rewrite his binding contract so as to make himself the summoner and avoid being sent back. He should have retained everything he had when Kabuto was in control, maybe more but since all the fighting was off-panel we wont know until he starts fighting Naruto and Bee.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Madara Uchiha VS. Sosuke Aizen

@UltimateHero0406 said:

but he wont be immobilized because he will at least see through the illusions. plus madara can also initiate an occular jutsu including susanoo and he cant be anything to death because i believe he is immortal as well. madara also has the power to seal aizens soul somewhere (similar to orochimaru). ALSO, even if aizen did send madara to the soul society, he would still be "alive" meaning that Aizen would have to follow him over and send madara to oblivion making konso pointless. ALSO even if this wasnt the case, madara would most likely be able to force his way back to world of the living or just burn the soul society to the ground and take over.

1. Madara is not going to see through Kyoka Suigetsu when even Yamamoto and Unohana can be caught under is hypnosis.

2. Madara is not going to seal Aizens soul... wow.

3.

ALSO, even if aizen did send madara to the soul society, he would still be "alive" meaning that Aizen would have to follow him over and send madara to oblivion making konso pointless.

Really... wow. There are any number of things I could say against this but the most suitable for this situation is "lol".

4. So Madara is not only going to get sent to the soul society, but he is also going to retain all of his memories while passing over along with all his powers.

And not only that, but he is also going to kill everyone in it, including all of the Captains and the Captain Commander himself, reduce the entire society to rubble and fire, force his way back through the Senkaimon without a Zanpakuto, walk through the Dangai by stoping the Kyoru currents without knowledge of how they work, and destroy the Kototsu while on his way to force the Senkaimon to open on the other side (Without a zanpakutu mind you) and begin his fight with Aizen once more...

Just let that sink in for a moment.

If he can do that then he deserves the win for sheere determination alone.

But you get 10/10 for creativity on that last point.

Complete Hypnosis and its game over for Madara.

Also I want to apologise in advance for that image if you take offence, I have wanted to use that since the SuperAizen image and now seemed like the best time.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Madara Uchiha VS. Sosuke Aizen

@DBZ_universe: Lol that is funny.

@UltimateHero0406: Just because he has the sharingan does not mean that will save him from the influence of Kyoka Suigetsu.

Once he is under complete hypnosis he is going to be trolled something fierce.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Madara Uchiha VS. Sosuke Aizen

@DBZ_universe: I think kubo cut these both out of the final cut as he felt it was a bit to broken haha.

@UltimateHero0406 said:

and even if he does bind madara, madaras occular jutsu are enough to keep aizen at bay without moving a muscle plus he can always teleport out. (amaterasu, kamui, tsukuyomi, etc.)

i dont think kyouka suigetsu would work on madara. non sharingan illusions dont work on people with sharingans, especially madara's super sharingan.

By this logic the Sharingan wont work on Aizen as he does not have a chakra network to manipulate. The difference between Aizen and Madara's Hypnosis is that Aizens affects the mind directly and is considered flawless, given that he controls all the senses, and even if one were to realise something was wrong they could not be certain until the sword is released. Retsu Unohana throught something was amiss with Aizens corpse but was unable to figure out what until she saw Aizen alive.

Madara will be under Complete Hypnosis the second the fight starts.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Madara Uchiha VS. Sosuke Aizen

@DBZ_universe: Haha I knew there were more.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Madara Uchiha VS. Sosuke Aizen

@DBZ_universe:

Took me awhile to find this, credit to the guy who drew it. haha

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Madara Uchiha VS. Sosuke Aizen

@bobokyo said:

Long story short, the Hogyoku DID NOT evolve Aizen further, it rejected him as it's master. The reason why his Zanpakuto disintigrated is either

A: The power of Mugetsu destroyed it.

or

B: He lost his Shinagami powers.

You said we're using their strongest forms, at Aizen's final transformation, he still had his Zanpauto.

When Aizen took Mugetsu and it almost destroyed him the Hogyoku deemed him unworthy to be its master and decided to destroy his Zanpakuto, Aizen mistook this as another transformation of power when in fact the Hogkyoku was regressing his forms back to his original body and supressing what little power he had left.

Ironic in the sense that the thing that was giving him power decided to weaken him instead, which is why Kisuke's kido took effect and sealed him.

As for the fight...

@DBZ_universe said:

Aizen will troll Madara...

More or less this.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Sasuke vs Vegeta!

@Fehafare:

Had to.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Iceman/Aokiji vs Akainu/ Portgas D. Ace

@taichokage: The difference between Haki and telekenetic/kenesis is very different. Haki itself stems from one spirit, with training one can utilize it and form it into one of the 3 (2 if they are unable to use Haoshoku) Haki avaliable. Phychic abilitys are different in that they stem from the power of the mind and not the spirit. The Haki in question allows the wielder to bypass the effects of a devil fruits powers (Among other things), to strike the body directly, and depending on where the hit landed it would do damage to the body part that has been altered, Hit the heart and it destroys the heart. To do that it would have to neutralize the devil fruits effects on any part of the body that is cut for it to do damage, which is why they can still defend against it by hitting the attack away. There is nothing to suggest that Devil Fruit powers alter the body in the same way as the X gene does for Bobby, hence why I say Haki will most likely not affect Bobby in the slighest in the form of an attack.

But we are arguing over semantics lol. I like to think of him in this instance like the anti Zanka no Tachi, he will rapidly steal all the heat from around them and freeze them in place before they can fight back.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Off-Topic » Would You Kill Your Future Self For Money?

It depends entirely on who my future self turned out to be. If I just happened to be a scumbag with no job or house etc. then I would do the world and myself a favor and take my 8 billion and 30 years to leave my mark. If on the other hand I had a good job and a loving family and kids, I doubt I would see the money as a substitute to that.

For the sake of this I will go under the assumption that I end up being some kind of scam artist in later life, I which case I would shoot myself and take the money.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Iceman/Aokiji vs Akainu/ Portgas D. Ace

Iceman can solo thanks to his ability to freeze close to and on absolute zero. No amount of Logia power can save them from absolute zero freezing, He managed to flash freeze a fusion core explosion. Busoshoku Haki wont affect him as his powers stem from mutation and not devil fruits which they are able to affect and bypass.

He has changed quite a bit but I was told he also has some form of energy manipulation and forcefield projection now, but dont hold me to that.

To sum up he can solo with ease. Aokiji is not even needed here.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Sesshōmaru VS Hiei

@Whats_out_the_bag:

3rd, his regen is limited to non essential body parts, arms, legs etc. So not all that usefull when his head is cut off

Heres the 2nd place where you messed up. He's regenerated his arm before as thats how he created bakusaiga but i'm not talking about that. I'm refering to the bolded part. So you don't remember how the speed is equal . For you to state he will cut sesshomaru's head off he would need his speed for that, as sesshomaru isn't going to sit there and look at hiei cut him.

At what point did I state that Hiei would cut his head off in this sentence? I was pointing out the simple fact that his regen is limited to non-essential body parts, so cutting his head off would kill him. Hiei is more than capable of cutting his head off even with the speed being equal. Even when releasing their power, it cause everything around them to crumble and shake, Yusuke barely managed to hold up against Yomi's energy when their battle started, whats to say the Sesshomaru is able to stand perfectly still when Hiei releases his? Given the difference in power is highly unlikely that he will reman uneffected by it and will more than likely stagger, leaving himself open for attacks.

Yet that doesn't help him tank bakusaiga. As Naraku's base form could tank wind scar which in the manga is mountain level but we l call it that thing a very big hill, so a demon who tanks wind scar and calls it a lttle breaze (when he doesn't have his full armor on ). So when this turtle demon gains his full armor he can even tank inuyasha's diamond spears, which they just bounced off of this demon. I'll give you proof but I'll do so later. So another demon named moryomaru then takes this armor and also steals inuyasha's diamond spears which he then adds another demons power in with it. Soon later after moryomaru does all this upgrading to it naraku comes up and takes it from him. Naraku also carries the jewel of for souls which means naraku's powers amps up this suit. So what does that mean for sesshomaru's bakusaiga nothing as it's power doesn't relies on striking force like most InuYasha/Yu Yu Hakusho attacks.

Can you show Bakusaiga effecting a demon ranked as a high S class? If not then there is nothing to say it can indeed harm an S class demon.

Can you post some scans of this mountain level feat, as far as I was aware they never got beyond town level in destructive capacity. Its either a mountain or a hill, I will make my jugdement on which when I see it.

Diamond has its limits, and it can be broken through sheer force. Given that he broke through with a town+ level attack he would be classed as a high B low A class. As I said before the difference in power between A and S is substantial indeed, coupled with the fact that Hiei slaughtered 500 mid A class demons with just his sword does not give Sesshomaru much credit.

Bakusaiga continuosly disintegrates the body. So how could any one with just a high durability level, yet not an immity or any type of regeneration even stand a chance.

I am aware of the mechanics behind the blade, but you still have to show it taking effect on a demon in the upper S class region. Without something like this then its all a hunch on your part that it can indeed effect demons many times more powerful than himself. My rule of thumb is, the weapon is only as powerful as the person who wields it or created it. Sesshomaru is no S class so it not unreasonable to think that it might have no effect of them.

The only thing Sesshomaru has that can possibly win him this match is Bakusaiga, and there is no guarantee that it will effect a demon of Hiei's caliber unless you can show me otherwise. Can you show me scans of how the poison enters the blood stream for example?

Outside of this sword he is virtually outmatched in every other way, given that Hiei can KO/kill him with a punch or one shot him with his own blade. No amount of posting from either of us will change this.

I could even go further and say again that if Sesshomaru has a one shot weapon as you say, then by all rights and reason Hiei is allowed to use his Dragon to even the odds.

Him having speed makes this a stomp, him without his speed makes this a "Goku vs Superman" type thread in that neither side will conceed the point they are trying to make irregardless of how outlandish their claims are, at the end of the day this is going to be a majority vote and as far as I can tell its:

True I've been on a post like this before where someone can one shot the other. It was the strongest swords man in One piece vs Sesshomaru. mihawk or something like that i forget.

When i'm in the place votes don't count, facts do.

Naruto vs Goku

14 vs 1

That is true, but when we reach a deadlock like this, the only way to settle it is by majority vote else it goes on and on. And this is the case right now, arguing this any further is pointless in my eyes.

Also the Naruto vs Goku (I assume both at peak) is a horrible example as only in a very biased community would you get an answer like that. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together could tell you this.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Sesshōmaru VS Hiei

@SMXLR8:

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I count 6.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Sesshōmaru VS Hiei

@SMXLR8: Check back through all the pages and you will find its 6 people.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Sesshōmaru VS Hiei

@Whats_out_the_bag:

Hiei is still physically stronger

Based on what?

He is physically superior to Sensui, a High A Low S class, who was casually breaking apart mountain sized rock formations with casual punches (Note that these were in the Makai where the ground is more durable, they will likely do much more damage had they been done on earth). Also the gap in power between A and S is so great that A class demons are little more than meer foot soldiers to the higher ranking S class demons, which Hiei is.

he has fought 500 guys together that individually should give Sesshoumaru trouble

BAKUSAIGA WOULD KILL ALL OF THEM IN ONE SWING. The same way they were quickly killed by.. Wait let me guess Dragon of the darkness flame?

No, just with his standard sword. At the start of the arc he was an A class demon.

You on the other hand are trying to throw this Mokuro girl out as a way to hype him up. Hey guys hiei fought on par with this girl who can split a dimension.

Yeah just a moment ago you probably were thinking that sesshomaru hasn't fought anyone like that before no did he have some power that would function on that level. Splitting a dimension isn't that big of a deal when a human boy could do it (Kuwabara.).

This "girl" you speak of is one of the Three Kings and arguably the strongest demon alive during the arc. She cut a dimension with her finger like she was cutting a slice of break. She slices through the entirety of the third dimension. And anything that touches them will be sliced in half too. Its not as simple as cutting into another dimension as much as you would like to try and match the feat with Sesshomaru's.

And her control over the dimensional cutting is many times greater than kuwabara's Jigen Tou. So trying to use that as a way to equalize them is pointless.

So don't sit here and over hype hiei.

I find this ironic considering you are the one suggesting that Bakusaiga could one shot an upper S class demon, and casually destroy 500 A class demons in one swing.

Sesshoumaru has his strengths but he does not add up to Hiei.

LOL

Flight/BAKUSAIGA/Regeneration plus more TO WHAT AGAIN?

I would like to point out that Sesshomaru, as far as im aware unless you have scans that say different. Likes to only use the power he feels is enough to kill his opponent, since he has no knowledge of Hiei he will think he is fodder and just put forth a fraction of his power to try and kill him, this is a weakness that will kill him here. Why do I say this?

no prep, in character, win by KO or other like they both can't fight or death, both at the end of the serise so strongest for both

For one he will not immediantly start flying the second the fight begins as that would go against his character.

2nd, he would not pull out Bakusaiga and use it straight away as this goes against his character.

3rd, his regen is limited to non essential body parts, arms, legs etc. So not all that usefull when his head is cut off.

Hiei does not limit himself in a battle so he will not have this weakness, he has strength and durability that exceed Mountain level. A single punch from him will knock out Sesshomaru, which will lead to a decapation via sword of the darkness flame, which is essentially Dragon of the Darkness flame is the form of a sword. The Dragon consumes anything it hits and sends it straight to Oblivion, not hell, Oblivion.

Now my Inuyasha is very rusty but if you have scans then please share.

Speed is equal only if there is a problem, which there is. Despite this the Jagan Eye will allow him to dodge Sesshomaru's attacks, and because he is holding himself back, will leave himself open for a counter attack that will destroy him in a single hit.

Please stop with this S class bull crap are you really coming up on this thread saying that any Yu Yu HAKUSHO character is even close to life wiping. Do you know what life wiping is? It's when someone or something one shots this world and kills everyone. No one in YYH as shown to kill everyone on earth in one move or 5 moves. So get this fan fiction out of here.

False, that would be planet busting. A life wiper is someone who can make the planet inhospitable for life in a short time frame, Which S class demons have the potential to do.

I'm sorry if this is some how fact, but please show me thoses scans if you want to come up here with that crap.

This is him as an upper A class demon, saying that him releasing his energy is affecting the Earth, and he is still trying to hold it all back at this point. Which is true given that it started to experience low level tremors. As I said before the gap in power between an A and S class would say that them fighting at full power on the planet would cause world wide quakes that would effectively make the planet inhospitable and end life on it.

As far as this demons being F class then so be it. As Sesshomaru could still one shot those 500 A class demons with Bakusaiga. If you don't know what it is then read the manga as far as this Classing goes it's pointless and useless to be in this thread has it doesn't help him fight sesshomaru get the picture. Yusake couldn't even just take on someone who could fly let alone someone who could fly and shoot an attack like Bakusaiga.

Do you have anything scan wise to suggest that Bakusaiga could affect and Upper A class/ Lower S class demon without fail? Classification of demons is in direct correlation to their overall power, the higher your rank the stronger you are. That is how demon power is measured in Yu Yu Hakusho, given that Sesshomaru is a demon himself he can be put against this by cross referencing his feats of durability, strength and power to that of a demon is his rank level. He is far from an S class by these standards.

Yusuke would kill Sesshomaru with a single full powered reigan. His flight and Bakusaiga is irrelevant because of this.

And even without his speed the fight is still in favor of Hiei due to the fact that he can one-shot him with strength alone, His swordsmanship alone was enough to go against 500 A class demons, no special powers, just him and his sword. His durability is equal to that of other demons in his range, and this is Mountain level+.

Flight is meaningless since by the time he figures out to use it he will already be within striking distance for Hiei making it useless. Even if he does get into the air I can easily call upon the OP to rectify the handicaps on Hiei

if dragon of the darkness flame is a problem then hiei can't use it.

I dont see it as a problem if his opponent is out of reach and it makes it unfair for Hiei because of this. In that regard I see no problem for Hiei to use his ranged attacks to deal with a guy who apparently is going to be flying around like a fairy for the rest of the fight making it unfair for Hiei to attack back.

Him having speed makes this a stomp, him without his speed makes this a "Goku vs Superman" type thread in that neither side will conceed the point they are trying to make irregardless of how outlandish their claims are, at the end of the day this is going to be a majority vote and as far as I can tell its:

6: Hiei

1: Sesshomaru

Good luck.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Sesshōmaru VS Hiei

@SMXLR8 said:

@taichokage: look i get it but from what i see, even if hiei win it would not be that easy i mean really if hiei was so fast then why couldn't he touch mukuro.

Because Mukuro is one of, if not the strongest demon in the entire series, at least during TK.

They both have speed and strength, Sesshoumaru has smarts and super reflexes and good senses and other powers that hiei does not have so again this fight will not be that easy

Hiei wins easily against him, The difference between their speed and strength is like night and day. Hiei outclasses him in every way, why you keep saying it wont be easy for him is beyond me, its not going to change the outcome of the battle, Hiei still wins.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Brolly VS Thanos

@SMXLR8: Even with the power gem he will put up a decent fight and then still lose anyway. He has no idea how to utilize it power to the fullest, and it's not the first time Thanos has fought against someone using the gem against him. Without knowledge on how to use it, he is going to lose.

But let me guess, you are going to change this match again to try and give Broly the advantage... If you are then just cut to the chase and give Broly the IG w/Knowledge and stop beating around the bush, You have changed the rules like 3 times now anyway, whats one more...

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

@Fehafare: Yeah I have been reading everything he has said... I feel a little sad on the inside that people still think like this.

I said that in more or a joking manner than anything, I knew he wouldnt be able to prove it.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

4. He cut lightning, this came directly from Kishimoto too. Want me to dig out the quote?

I would rather you dig out a scan to prove it.

there's no outliers in Naruto.

Shikimaru beating Hidan.

Sasuke surviving Deidara's C0.

Sasuke is so plot heavy its embarrasing.

3. How are top tiers limited to hyper-sonic speeds? Show me proof of this.

Can you show them on panel exceeding it?

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Renji & Byakuya Vs Zoro & Mihawk

@DBZ_universe: I cant see flying being a problem at all, since both Mihawk and Zoro have ranged attacks. Zoro can handle Renji and Byakuya would go down from one swing unless he can tank an attack of that level. Which going by previous fights, he cannot. He was killed (Still hold out hope for him being alive, after the trolling Naruto pulled off recently I am open to anything being possible through the power of friendship now) by his own Bankai and it is not as destructive as Mihawk is.

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