YoungChief (Level 5)

@5th said:

Juubi is pretty powerful, you have to admit that...

It pretty much caused an all out catastrophic storm around the entire Ninja Continent

Made a Juubi Dama that dwarfed even the Eight Tails

Not as impressive as Juubi. Also why does anyone think Jinton is gonna save the Narutoverse from mounturtle? Mounturtle fires a beam, the end, it really is that simple. If you want to create a fanfic scenario where they can all sneak up on it then fine lol, but the thing is mounturtle is massively hypersonic, it, along with the other 4 beast limbs, traveled tens of thousands of kilometers in mere minutes.

@phantomrant said:

Haven't read past Stardust Crusaders, but if Dio's timestop spam+ blood freezing doesn't do it, then Cars will just go around absorbing them. The Kings have no way of putting him down considering his regen and ability to adapt.

Cars is a non-factor, Sani eats him with Satan Hair. The kings still lose though.

@Kurohige said:

So, is the argument going on right now that Goku can't blow up the planet and control his ki blast?

Looks like it, the usual BS to downplay DBZ. "Why didnt the good guys blow up a planet, you can't explain that". FYI, Piccolo's moon vaporizer beam back when his power level was under 1000 is enough to planet bust, just saiyan

Mounturtle busted an ice continent and completely tanked an attack that would have wiped away the entire United States, nuff said. Mounturtle rapes

Well, Gohan was able to bust out of the Saiyan space pod when he was a kid with brute force, the same type of pod that survived a ki attack from Nappa. I don't know man. Anyhow since Raditz can use ki I don't see them getting past Raditz really, I mean I guess they have the speed advantage but he seriously has the durability advantage, and definitely destructive power

@taichokage said:

4000 times? Lol no. The strongest character ever known was Prime Sensui. The strongest character EOS was Mokuro at full power. The strongest constant character known was Yomi. They were all about the same at roughly 1.4 million youki. Koenma said that Sensui was a around 40 thousand. Approximately the Kings are around 35x Sensui's level. Impressive yes, but not 4000x impressive. That would be high DBZ caliber. I could see thinking that the 3 Demon Kings could beat the 4 Heavenly Kings even though I question that, but only them. I still see Zebra taken each one down, possibly excluding Prime Raizen who was not shown.

Even then with them being 35X stronger you can't scale any feats based on that. Once again, look at DBZ, where YYH clearly ripped off the idea from, Piccolo with a power level of under 1000 vaporized a moon, one arc later Goku's power is at 150,000,000, now tell me, are you gonna believe that Goku can blow up hundreds of millions of moon sized planetoids in one shot based on that? Or how about that farmer example, the farmer had a power level of 5 while roshi had a power of what 200 tops when he busted a moon? So what does that mean, that humans can bust portions of the moon too? Again, if we used this type of powerscaling with power levels, DBZ would be MUCH higher than it is now in terms of power, multi-star system level casually, it just doesn't work, and it's embarrassing really, not talking about you of course

@supernova7005 said:

@YoungChief: If a character A is a mountain buster, then a character 100 times stronger than A should be able to destroy 100 mountains.

Powerscaling works if the official power levels are clearly stated.

There were people on this site claiming that DB tien could beat EoS yusuke, and thats ridiculous if we don't take powerscaling into consideration

You're never gonna force anyone to believe it, I know you'll keep trying though. What you're claiming is so far above and beyond any feats shown in YYH that its downright batshit insane. No, powerscaling does not work that way, it was "officially stated" that Cell and everyone stronger than him is a solar system buster as well, guess how many people online believe that to be true in a debate, but at least with DBZ they're in the ballpark of power like that, in YYH you go from destroying a mesa with a shockwave to claiming they can blow up the moon by your claims.

Power pole is magically enchanted to be unbreakable, how is the plasma sword getting past it? Goku was skilled with it even at the beginning

@Ikki_Minami_ said:

@YoungChief: Feats actually showing hime destroy a planet?

Feats showing Goku/Cell/Vegeta/Vegito destroying a planet hurrrrrr. Don't do this please, at the very LEAST, Yamucha is a moon buster, and that's too much for this challenge battle stuff.

@Ikki_Minami_ said:

@DBZ_universe: Is Yamucha even a planet buster? I seriously doubt it.

powerscaling says he definitely is

Toriko's is pretty good too, not as creepy as Zebra's rape face though lol

@supernova7005 said:

The strongest YYH character is around 4000 times stronger than Sensui according to the official power levels.

There is no way Toriko can be stronger than YYH verse

Ah the usual Supernova bullshit. Feats for said characters? Or are we gonna go into this multiplying crap you always do, if X is mountain buster then Y must be moon buster since he's 4000 times stronger hurrrr. No one takes you seriously, if we did shit like that DBZ characters would be freaking multi star system busters based on power level scaling, but no one says any crap like that.

EDIT: by the way, "there's no way toriko verse can be stronger". Lol wut. First off by feats and not some powerscaling mathematics bullshit, it already is, and on top of that it's pretty much stated they're gonna go into space at some point, where their power can only get more and more above YYH. Any characters in YYH at mach 30,000 speed? Tengu Buranchi is, and he's not even close to being a top tier in Toriko, he also can fuck over YYH characters with cellular destruction attacks.

@taichokage said:

Actually Kyouraku's name is Shunsui not Shinsui or Sensui lol. But I think Toriko has this but how easily is debatable. Sensui can destroy whole Mesa with a shockwave of his punch, which is arguably more impressive than Toriko's current Kugi Punch. But I think a degree of power scaling is in order. Also Toriko's reactions should be better as well.

First off a few things people miss about that feat. Toriko says "Last time I broke apart a freakin' huge boulder of IRON ORE with my kugi punch but...This is like 10 times that...It's practically a mountain...". Then notes he could bust it with regular 50 ren, but decides to nail gun, remember, 50 Ren Nail gun is much stronger than regular 50 ren. So it wasn't just a mountain, it was a mountain made of iron ore first off, and it was destroyed with a technique that could do so much more than that.

YYH characters have been beneath Toriko for quite some time, the Toriko verse is confirmed to be multiple times faster with guys who have mach 30,000 reactions and movement speed (this aint no calculation its fact) and the fact that they just have better destruction feats. The only hope YYH has is outrageous calculations trying to put them at country level, when the best feat in the entire series is blowing up a mesa.

There was a YYH thread a while back where Yusuke, Hiei, Kurama, and Kuwabara were put up against the 4HK's, also a thread where Hiei vs Sani, YYH lost in those threads, Supernova tried to use the calcs in there too IIRC, the calcs are generous to YYH, putting them at around mach 350, the kings have some that put them at mach 700+, and the way things are going they're probably going to have sub-relativistic reactions as well soon enough.

EDIT: @solesamurai Honestly YYH gets most of its power on forums from the calculations they have, remember those, the calculations you said were stupid and whatnot? Yeah. Toriko has better actual feats, plain and simple, AND better calculations for good measure.

starjun speed blitzes

Any of the Admirals could still solo the SH's. Just because they have Haki doesn't mean they're bypassing their intangibility so easily, we saw that with Akainu in the war when even someone like Vista attacked him. Hell even Blackbeards entire crew didn't want to fuck around with Akainu, and Blackbeard had the Gura Gura no mi and an entire crew of badass prisoners from level 6 in impel down including the biggest creature to ever exist.

EDIT: Think about this too, the Admirals not only have their insane logia, but they're monsters physically, and should be masters of haki higher than that of even Luffy, probably know all the forms of Rokushiki too, you saw when Aokiji leapt like what, 200 feet in the air to freeze the tsunami's whitebeard brought? Yeah pretty crazy

@DBZ_universe said:

Can I choose Yamucha?

I sincerely doubt that was a normal grenade if he planned on using it on Goku

Ok Saitama's stats right now are island busting and hypersonic. Zebra is at country level with massively hypersonic speed and more versatility than everyone in one punch man combined, Saitama needs more feats dood, the manga takes so long to come out though ugh. The newest chapter was great though

Isn't Imperiex supposed to be like DC's Galactus? Galactus would win btw, he'd just absorb the energy of the mech or teleport the people in the cockpits into space