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Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Goku's strength calculation

@Roman55 said:

@Veiler said:

Toriyama did not supervise GT, all he did was to contribute with some basic character designs.

Toriyama did however write the backstory for DBO.

See the difference?

He supervised the production. And no just because he wrote a backstory doesn't make it automatically canon.

1. Prove it.

2. Let's recap. The original author, with all legal rights, writes a continuation of his original story, and it's not canon? Are you serious? Do you even know what canon is?

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

@Fehafare said:

Funny... even tho we asked for a scan, you provided none.

I think you just don't understand what a "feat" is.

I think you're illiterate, that or you're suffering from some mental deficiency.

Either way, seeing how you ignored the reply. Concession accepted.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Goku's strength calculation

@Roman55 said:

@Veiler said:

I love how certain pieces of canon information are outright ignored on this forum for no other reason that people get butt-hurt over fact.

Once again. We have no idea have no idea how extensive this supervision was.

It could have been some random joe who wrote the rest without supervision.

Also seeing as how you guys want to use the Supervision argument, Then I guess that makes GT canon doesn't it? Because he supervised that too.

Toriyama did not supervise GT, all he did was to contribute with some basic character designs.

Toriyama did however write the backstory for DBO.

See the difference?

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Real vs Fake Kid buu Galaxy Busting feat

@Axel_Almer said:

@Velier I love how you call him stupid when your grammar is in shambles.

Oh I forgot to add "you but", holy shit call the grammar police.

Granted English is my third language, so I could pin the excuse on that, but it's really not even that bad. The reason I forgot it was because I tried to come up with an insult, backspaced and wrote what came to mind.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Goku's strength calculation

@Roman55 said:

@Molokki said:

Furthermore it was stated in a databook that using flight made the training much harder, therefore this is a low end of Goku's strength.

This kills whatever statement you had.

I love how certain pieces of canon information are outright ignored on this forum for no other reason that people get butt-hurt over fact.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Real vs Fake Kid buu Galaxy Busting feat

@Roman55 said:

Even if Akira Toriyama wrote the story for DBO. That wouldn't make it automatically canon.

So Akira Toriyama, the original author, wrote a continuation of DB, but it still isn't canon? Wow... I'd insult your stupidity left me in a loss for words.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

@Yusuke52 said:

4. He cut lightning, this came directly from Kishimoto too. Want me to dig out the quote?

I would rather you dig out a scan to prove it.

there's no outliers in Naruto.

Shikimaru beating Hidan.

Sasuke surviving Deidara's C0.

Sasuke is so plot heavy its embarrasing.

3. How are top tiers limited to hyper-sonic speeds? Show me proof of this.

Can you show them on panel exceeding it?

1. Word of god. Look it up.

2. You don't even know what an outlier is, do you?

3. I already have. Haku moved at the speed of light (literally) between the mirrors.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

@Fehafare said:

What an idiot.

Best calcs put Naruto top-tiers on that speed level and they have non feats that suggest that they are faster.

Again, AIS.

Outliners have nothing to do with "different authors" when a feat does not scope with logic and the rest of the verse it gets ignored.

Show me a sigle feat which would put Naruto characters above hypersonic.

And same with the DBZ thing, you are the only one who actually believes this bullshit, which means i don't have to care as it won't have any effect on the site.

1. How does it feel to losing a debate to an "idiot"?

2. Argument from ignorance fallacy.

3. Cherry picking fallacy.

4. Scope with logic? It's an actual feat! We wouldn't ignore gravity because our theories didn't agree with it, right? You need to get your head out of your ass.

5. I already did. Haku's movement was explained to be light speed in-between the mirrors.

6. Appeal to popularity.

You're worse at debating than my 6 year old niece. This is getting sad.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

1. Oh, so it was an ad hominem? You have to excuse me, I'm not used to debating stupid people.

2. That's an excuse, not an argument.

3. How are top tiers limited to hyper-sonic speeds? Show me proof of this.

4. He cut lightning, this came directly from Kishimoto too. Want me to dig out the quote?

5. What the fuck? This is not Marvel comics which continuity has been butchered by hundreds of authors for over 50 years, there's no outliers in Naruto.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Real vs Fake Kid buu Galaxy Busting feat

1. Postdating canon material can verify predating events. How do you not understand this?

2. No you're a hater, you ignore canon fact because you don't like it.

3. So you think that SSJ3 Goku > Mystic Gohan? Thanks, that's all I needed.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

0. You have your head shoved up your own ass so far that you won't even concede to a grammar mistake?

Anyway, sure I'll play your game, prove to me that it's accurate.

1. Did Kakashi use Raikiri the second after Pain used Shinra Tensei?

2. Concession accepted.

3. Think? I PROVED that Haku can hit light speed. You even skipped the point because you knew that you lost.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Real vs Fake Kid buu Galaxy Busting feat

1. Concession accepted.

2. That's not how you worded it, but that's what you meant.

3. Gohan was stronger, what part of unlocking Gohan's potential didn't you understand?

4. God you're dense....

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

0. "Ok now slow for you" is a grammar mistake...

1. Funny, because you just said "And not a single Naruto character"... only shit tiers fought Pain, and none of them used a speed-burst technique during that 5 second interval.

2. “For Haku, it’s possible to move between the mirrors at the speed of light. It’s impossible to see attacks send out from this literal light speed movement” - Masashi Kishimoto.

Are you going to tell me that the author is wrong? Go ahead, I need a laugh.

3. You can barely write or reason, I've seen gold fishes with higher IQ than yours.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Real vs Fake Kid buu Galaxy Busting feat

Maybe you're getting flank because you're ignorant, ever considered that?

Let's apply some logic.

Gohan unlocked his potential in DBZ, meaning that neither Goku or Vegeta could ever get to his level of power.

Since both Goku and Vegeta could generate supernovas, Gohan who was stronger than either of them could ever get he could replicate that feat.

So either way, you're wrong.

Anyway, DBZ is actually called DB in Japan, so it's not a separate canon like you imply. DB canon, DBZ canon, and DBO canon are all the same, deal with it.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

0. Or maybe you could apply proper grammar.

1. I suppose you have proof for that? Oh wait, you don't.

2. When Kakashi teaches Sasuke Chidori he explains this.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Real vs Fake Kid buu Galaxy Busting feat

@Fehafare said:

@Veiler: Go and guess how many people care about DBO?

It doesn't matter whether YOU care about it or not, it's canon fact. Anyone who argue against it is wrong. It's that simple.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

@Fehafare said:

@Veiler: lolno.

And what he meant is that Pain's Shinra Tensei had a 5 seconds cooldown, yet no one managed to cross a few meters in those 5 seconds.

1. Are you dense? It's a time-frame.

2. And what I wrote was that certain techniques allowed for short bursts of speed. Kakashi is a lot faster using Raikiri than he is running. This was explained.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Haku » proof that haku goes lightspeed

@Destinyheroknight said:

@tronboy:

Two words, Five Seconds

Also why are you not showing the manga scan for Haku feat?

Five seconds is a time-frame, not a speed-frame.

Certain techniques allow the Shinobi to move at lightning and light speed for small bursts, but it's not free movement.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Battles » Real vs Fake Kid buu Galaxy Busting feat

@Fehafare said:

@soduh2: Dude... you are thinking it way too deep. It doesn't really matter what size the planet is, it's a planet. If there's something idiotic such as a galaxy sized planet (lol) yeah sure we can say it's a greater feat, but minimal differences between planets get ignored.

You got:

Planet+ level

Large Plant+ level

Multi-Planet+ level

And that's it you really don't need to go into any detail, because most of them time the outcome of the fight is completely clear without the details (especial in those "cosmic" fights).

DBZ top tiers are multi-planet level and that's all there is to it.

I'm sorry, but Akira Toriyama confirmed in DBO that Goku and Vegeta had the power to produce supernovas in their last battle.

Any doubt of Cell's threat was removed with that confirmation. They are star-busters. Deal with it.

Post by Veiler (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Tenchi Masaki » Why is Kami Tenchi considered omnipotent?

Because nigh-omnipotence is an oxymoron. You're either omnipotent or you're not. There's no half-way point. If you want to use a flashy term for it then use something that makes sense. Though this is just semantics.

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