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@xlab3000: about it do not worry not, lately become fashionable minimize everything, even the comics that I'm seeing are being minimized, ComicVine i see a the topic dedicated to minimize feats of various characters, like world war hulk ...

well that ironic.

in the "Debunking Comic Wank" thread, it was proven that Thanos can't destroy stars. The entire Cold Family is a lot powerful than the Heralds Of Galactus and can be termed as Transcendants(Low-Mid end).

@xlab3000: as if no marvel / dc hyperbolys not exist, if we treat all the statements as hyperbolys, even when we have feats, then we can disregard everything. Interesting your, point of view. from today I will treat everything as a hyperboly.

feat+declaration = / / =declaration of potential capacity.

goku has not only these feats like dodge of lasers.

Has the feat of kid goku dodging of the lightning.

goku avoiding a beam of light of ten.

goku training to overcome the speed of lightning.

roshi destroying fast the moon .

among other feats that characters have shown well before this fight.

and as series will showing the characters are becoming increasingly stronger, the speed increases, other characters were impressed, could not see the movements of the fight of goku and ten.

if you still do not believe that, is a another question.

Furthermore this feat has to do with the speed of combat, not with displacement.

then stop give a of downplayer.

Yancha was talking about the feat of speed of goku when they were flying very fast in the sky and in the arena. here is a situation where we have a feat and a confirmation of feat.

different from your example

Moreover, we already had too much feats before this, where the characters have moved at speeds radius and above and also confirmations.

other characters, has feats of dodging of explosions that traveling in light speed or relativistic.

@ Destinyheroknight : I'll fix and reup after, I took off of a dub version Japanese with subtitles.

@ Destinyheroknight :problem in audio certainly bad configured.

@MarioRedfield: broly actually die because of the triple kamehameha, has been shown in the series that ki can emit much heat.

not only showing the difference of anime to the manga.

broly, cell, hatchiyack ... is a lot of characters was confirmed that can destroy the universe, as the majority of the statements is of characters of credibility, until the narrator of own dbz confirmed buuhan was destroying the universe + dimensions:

Yancha confirmed that goku if moves in lightspeed in epidose 140 of db.

characters has much strength:

@eddz99: story mode=//=trailers.

after all trailers do not tell stories, are just presentations.

Moreover these events are not canon with the movies, are timelines alternate where broly, investment, toy kills his enemies at once. my intention was to show the videos that Reikai and dbz universe know nothing about whether the story of the game or even on the feats of broly. as you can see the best feat of defeating ssj's2 was broly, broly vs gogeta about anything, it was just an opening of the game, not about the storys he had in the game.

Furthermore I do not disagreed that SSJ3 goku was stronger than broly since goku still has fpssj, fpssj + SSJ2+ SSJ3, give a good bp bigger than broly, broly would have to transform in ssj3 to deal with SSJ3 goku . like i said if broly in dbz, thanks to its high multiplier, it could rival the SSJ3 goku in dbgt, if the base of broly was so strong as goku in dbgt, could even be your bp higher, more like I said,this broly does not exist, and showed us videos, own broly has a limit on how much energy your body can handle.

Finally, as already shown in video above, broly is nothing special about the villains in the saga cell, several are said to have the same capacity or larger than broly because the universe is a part the dbz world that lies below the db heaven and hell, buuhan was destroying , 3 universes (heaven,maikai, hell and the universe) and alternate dimensions, not needless to mention dbgt, the very own dbz and much for broly.

@ DBZ_universe : @ Reikai :

thanks for proving my point. It is as I thought, you are fake fans of broly , a true fan of broly (like me) can not only prove that broly can destroy galaxies, as also the universe in more lssj, but also prove that broly is more stronger than goku in multiplier.

because I know the multiplier the lssj. and increase the power of a SSJ3 in broly.

I know the best feats of broly, in story of games.

this proves that yours do not know your own character.

feats of broly in Dragon Ball budokai 3: (story game)

broly defeat the goten, trunks, gohan and goku then will start destroy the universe.

feats of broly in Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit( story game)

broly defeat SSJ2 gohan, vegeta, goku ... trunks says that broly will destroy the universe, and confirms that broly goes.

as I said I know the multiplier which of broly lssj, is 400x in base. in other words equal to a SSJ3. if broly has 70 Kilis = 3,500,000 bp. 400x( lssj)3500000=1,400,000,000 bp. As we know that the multiplier of SSJ3 is = 400x base. lssj +SSJ3 + = 160000x base. broly base 3,500,000 x 160000=560,000,000,000. in other words, greater than the bp of goku in dbz or equal to SSJ3 goku in dbgt. if there broly ssj4, the multiplier to ssj4 is equal=10x. 10x160000=1600000. 3500000*1600000=5600000000000, it is equal to the goku ssj4. even taking into account the upgrades of movie 10, broly ssj4 would still have powers next pa goku ssj4 vs baby vegeta with upgrades Oozaru, which is below of goku fpssj4, the ssj4 level that surpasses the ssj4 regular, would still be below of omega, the only way that we could see how broly with omega is if existed in dbgt, in the case a broly, 15 years after of dbz. more looks on the bright side, the SSJ3 broly or the hypothetical broly ssj4 , could beat guys like SSJ3 Vegito, gogeta ssj3 ... among others that were confirmed by supreme kai as below of goku ssj4.

as I said, not only broly as also various characters of dbz, were confirmed they could destroy the universe, from the cell saga, it shows how the characters had the exponential aumentendo extensively in anime / movies, even before arriving in the saga of buu, in buu saga or dbgt, the powers of the characters are in the level should really absurd, I think has a chance of giving a good fight with ttgl, since a galaxy of dbz = 1/4 of the universe, due to the fact the 4 galaxies have absurd numbers of stars and nebulae, which makes it a feat of kidbuu or broly impressive, because if we went by the size of the galaxies, destroying a galaxy in dbz destroy = 1/4 of galaxies in our universe.

broly fans worth his salt, do not use things like brolypotence(flood) or trailers of games, as arguments.

@DBZ_universe:

again I ask what manga has to do with the subject of the topic we are discussing medias non-canon. in other words movies / games vs anime (dbz / dbgt), in the context of the discussion, because not there broly and omega in manga, what's your point? divert the topic subject?

expected better arguments, frankly your arguments are getting worse, at least you can prove that broly can against SSJ2 gohan, sp cell, Janemba ... in his own universe or against a SSJ3 vegeta. prove that broly can increase their powers without stopping and not explode, show some feat of broly above the other villains of dbz / dbgt ... and then we talked.

as @mypasswordis1234 said:

^ This thread. Doesn't matter how many times and how simple you explain, a certain user will repeat the same bullsh1t eventually.

@DBZ_universe:

sorry but your arguments are being bordering on hypocrisy. what is your point with the question of the canon? being that we are using characters also considered non-canon. if broly not has feats better in games and even in the movies, as how broly is above of omega? was showing broly feats to show that not even the best feats in the movies and even games, is the question of feats is below even your own universe for guys like SSJ3 Goku, Janemba, gogeta ... interesting criticize the feats of anime, a other media, the feats goku in dbgt, in dbgt happen, and you come say that is non-canon? Our well you're so desperate, even to deny a canon feat in its own media, as the broly destroy a "galaxy"? I can not do anything if goku in dbgt had feats above your dear broly in base, no need to say that the omega could do with someone like goku.

SSJ3 broly does not exist in the movies, only in games, is also not shown any feat that puts him even above the gogeta ssj1 since he was defeated by SSJ3 vegeta, sorry but if your best argument and a trailer for the game, it demonstrates that you have no credibility to defend your favorite character. des

sorry but broly was literally destroyed in all aspects, destructive capacity, feats, pl, multipliers ... has no arguments against facts, can flooding , cry, swear, nothing will make broly win it. if you have no more arguments and can not prove that broly can not make things better in your own universe is not can win of a SSJ3 vegeta,as the broly will win it? to already know is because broly is "brolypotence."

Toriyama's Contributions to the Anime

While it seems to be fairly well-known that Toriyama contributed certain ideas and character designs to the anime, there's still quite a bit of misunderstanding as to just what exactly he did or didn't have a part in. Believe it or not, some of the filler most fans complain about as being non-canon material was actually Toriyama's idea. And while he didn't actually write any of the movies, he did create many of the new characters that appeared in them. All of the information below has been scattered throughout the series' numerous guide books, so we've just simply organized it in one convenient place.

This page has been organized by story elements so that character designs are listed roughly in the order in which they appeared in the series, with the main series appearing first and then is followed by the movies and TV specials. Be sure to click on the Toriyama designs to view larger versions, which in some cases will contian additon translated notes.

Toriyama personally selected Nozawa Masako to voice Son Goku and Tanaka Mayumi to voice Kuririn. He also helped select other unspecified major characters, although it appears his selections were only for major characters at the very beginning of the series. In Daizenshuu 10, for instance, Horikawa Ryoumentions not having to audition to play for Vegeta.

From Toriyama's Daizenshuu 3 interview:

-- Were there any jobs you did directly for the "DB" anime?

Toriyama: In cases where characters appeared in the anime before they were shown in color in the manga, I sent a response to the animators at Toei through my editor. After that, I listened to the voice actor audition tapes, and decided on the casting. When I decided on Goku's voice, I listened to the voices of five or six candidates, and out of those I decided on Nozawa Masako-san.

-- What were your impressions on hearing Goku's voice during the actual broadcast?

Toriyama: I went "Goku has this sort of voice, doesn't he". From then on, when I was drawing the manga, the characters' voices would somehow drift up into my mind. Whenever that happened, Goku's voice would be just like Nozawa-san's, and I'd think "Geez, she's good". Now it's impossible to separate Goku from Nozawa-san.

-- Did you choose any of the other characters?

Toriyama: I was present for the selection of the other major roles. After that, I suppose I only designated Tanaka Mayumi-san as the voice of Kuririn. When I saw "Night on the Galaxy Railroad", I said the protagonist had a really good voice, and a very knowledgeable friend of mine told me that it was Tanaka Mayumi-san.

http://www.kanzentai.com/production.php?id=toriyama_anime

@eddz99 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@eddz99 said:

@DBZ_universe: I means LSSJ vs. SSJ3

SSJ3 would lose.

@ALMIGHTY: Hey, come one.. Brolytards? really... I'm a Broly fan too and that's hurts... jk

Just.. no... i don't even think he can withstand ssj2 kid gohan..

LSSJ would get owned by ssj3 goku unless goku plays around too much because goku's power decreases and broly increases, but technically ssj1 goku can 1 shot lssj broly there was a thread about this before goku ssj3 vs. broly lssj look at it all the reasons are there by me and nibbit.

exactly, broly could not against gohan SSJ2 or cell.

the ratio because SSJ2 gohan was having trouble with broly:

expected better arguments of brolytards, can not prove that broly has powers infinite or which broly is stronger than cell or gohan SSJ2.

hatchiyack is stronger than broly and can destroy the galaxy north, besides altering the orbits of planets, making if move. (feat level superman pre-crisis)

I do not know if they knew more hatchiyack, was created in the game dragon ball raging blast, and after the movie was made for db: rg. broly of game and the movie is 8, not movie 10. in other words, SSJ3 broly is weaker than broly in movie 10, If there a SSJ3 broly in movie 10

cell can destroy the universe:

goku could also do this feat, the made ​​in heaven and hell, which are bigger than galaxies of dbz.

goku in dbgt, does the same thing in form base that is equal to SSJ3 goku in dbz:

for those who have not understood the scale of the feat SSJ3 goku or goku gt in, here's the map of the universe dbz, showing that hell or heaven and larger than galaxies of dbz.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110717111445/dragonball/images/8/8b/DBUniverse_(SuperExcitingGuides).png

http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guidebooks/images/07-036-a.gif

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/31957/552237-551938-janemba_universal1.gif

buuhan can destroy the universe and alternate dimensions (parallel universes) below the gif or video:

janemba baby deforming the sky and hell, which is the same size of the universe;

heaven

http://www.abload.de/img/janembaverse6q3dzx.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/janenbaverse5l3e6s.gif

hell

http://www.abload.de/img/janembauniversefvdug.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/universe3t3d55.gif

summary of done:

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/31957/552237-551938-janemba_universal1.gif

kidbuu destroy a galaxy in few years, with only limited powers

by father babidi: gif:

Omega Shenron can destroy the multiverse dbz with little negative energy quickly, with maximum powers can destroy various universes.

gif:

@ Reikai : sorry, other dub error.

try again, then your best argument is dub errors? lamentable.

He was *releasing* energy while in apparent agony. Why would he do that? Probably because, you know, he was OVERFLOWING with energy. He has a limit to ki he can hold and when that limit's reached he has to expel his excess energy. So Broly isn't becoming SSJ4 level just by standing around and waiting for ki to build up; that's not how it works and never has been.

@DBZ_universe: you are appealing and diverting the topic it to the question of the canon? funny, because we're talking about characters who many claim to be non-canon, where are you getting at? I showed that in both the anime in the movies, we already had both feats level galaxy as galaxy above the level, you have not shown anything that puts up broly above of cell, kidbuu, Rildo, SSJ3 goku or goku base (gt), it makes no difference if I'm using anime feats or movies also do not need to use or the movies, dbgt your own is enough to defeat broly, goku ssj1 is the minimum to defeat SSJ3 broly, omega is rape.

even if you have not an information about the multiplier of SSJ3 broly, nothing says SSJ3 broly becomes more powerful than ssj1 gogeta or ssj3 goku or even, much less Omega Shenron who survived a coup strong of ssj4 gogeta. The reason for this is shown in own story of DB: RG:

what you are doing and create a broly does not even exist in games or movies, we have the name for it, fanfiction. since it wants to use fanfiction, why not use soon the broly dbm ? in place of talking bs or ignore the facts, broly not is omnipotent, since we already know what the limits of the powers of SSJ3 broly in dbz.

@ALMIGHTY:even if broly had destroyed the galaxy, the film implying that he led a time and not in the one shooter. Furthermore we have shown that has characters feats above the level galaxy and galaxy level, broly is weaker is that they:

vegeta defeat, the broly twice.

SSJ3 goku defeat broly.

Janemba defeated goku and vegeta together.

@ReiKai: That is not the story mode of the game, if this is your best argument, frankly a waste of time debating with you. honestly, do not give to take seriously anyone who uses trailers of games of dragon ball, to use as arguments and still gameplays,without no story mode. credibility 0

@ TODO-PODEROSO : destroying the arguments of brolytards in 1 ... 2 ... 3

feats of dragon ball above the level galaxy, both in dbgt, movies and dbz:

hatchiyack is stronger than broly and can destroy the galaxy north, besides altering the orbits of planets, making if move. (feat level superman pre-crisis)

I do not know if they knew more hatchiyack, was created in the game dragon ball raging blast, and after the movie was made for db: rg. broly of game and the movie is 8, not movie 10. in other words, SSJ3 broly is weaker than broly in db: Budokai 3.

cell can destry the universe:

goku could also do this feat, the made ​​in heaven and hell, which are bigger than galaxies of dbz.

goku in dbgt, does the same thing in form base that is equal to SSJ3 goku in dbz:

buuhan can destroy the universe and alternate dimensions (parallel universes) below the gif

janemba baby:

heaven

http://www.abload.de/img/janembaverse6q3dzx.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/janenbaverse5l3e6s.gif

hell

http://www.abload.de/img/janembauniversefvdug.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/universe3t3d55.gif

summary of done:

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/31957/552237-551938-janemba_universal1.gif

kidbuu destroy a galaxy in few years, with only limited powers

by father babidi: gif:

conclusion, there is no difference in the power level for the animes and movies, both cell, kidbuu, goku, jenemba are listed as having the same ability to destroy not only the galaxies as also the universe, is the best argument broly fans, is a destruction of a galaxy, dbgt, anime movies and others and has better feats well above the level galaxy, laying omega several times above of broly, both SSJ3 broly or broly regular.

close topic:

: destroying the arguments of brolytards in 1 ... 2 ... 3@WhiteLion said:

@DBZ_universe:

Dude. You're killing me. Broly didn't make Gogeta, bleed man. Why do you keep saying this when I already stated that he didn't. It's not even factual. It's a Video Game. Here is what actually happened Both of their fist connected. They went back in opposite directions, and Broly got Blasted with a Kamehama. How that translates to making Gogeta Bleed is crazy. Video is above so please stop making that claim.

feats of dragon ball above the level galaxy, both in dbgt, movies and dbz:

hatchiyack is stronger than broly and can destroy the galaxy north, besides altering the orbits of planets, making if move. (feat level superman pre-crisis)

I do not know if they knew more hatchiyack, was created in the game dragon ball raging blast, and after the movie was made for db: rg. broly of game and the movie is 8, not movie 10. in other words, SSJ3 broly is weaker than broly in db: Budokai 3.

cell can destry the universe:

goku could also do this feat, the made ​​in heaven and hell, which are bigger than galaxies of dbz.

goku in dbgt, does the same thing in form base that is equal to SSJ3 goku in dbz:

buuhan can destroy the universe and alternate dimensions (parallel universes) below the gif

janemba baby:

heaven

http://www.abload.de/img/janembaverse6q3dzx.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/janenbaverse5l3e6s.gif

hell

http://www.abload.de/img/janembauniversefvdug.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/universe3t3d55.gif

summary of done:

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/31957/552237-551938-janemba_universal1.gif

kidbuu destroy a galaxy in few years, with only limited powers

by father babidi: gif:

conclusion, there is no difference in the power level for the animes and movies, both cell, kidbuu, goku, jenemba are listed as having the same ability to destroy not only the galaxies as also the universe, is the best argument broly fans, is a destruction of a galaxy, dbgt, anime movies and others and has better feats well above the level galaxy, laying omega several times above of broly, both SSJ3 broly or broly regular.

close topic: