Tradog (Level 7)

So far I have only seen 3 idiots on this site, oh well what can you do?
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Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@Nerx said:
" @Tradog: or thunderclap and pop Naruto's eardrums and shattering some bones "
Hell yea.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Spider Man and Venom Vs Naruto

@JThree47693 said:
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" Wow just as much comic anime crossovers here as on Comicvine it really is dumb since it is two totally different concepts of power. But seriously Spider-Man and Venom are street levelers this is no means a fair fight unless there is more involved or this is a restricted or early version of Naruto  "
Even pre-shippuden naruto would win but shippuden naruto way outclasses them. "
Do not underestimate these two Spider-Man mans punches pack a 25 ton force hit his webbing can hold multiple tons, his pre cog spidey sense allows him to detect his opponents moves before they make them. Then you have his reflexes and dodging skills. Venom has all that and more and is physically stronger and faster. "
I suppose I didn't give them enough credit but Naruto is faster than either and (in sage mode) stronger than either  and has tons of techniques. If he summoned Gamabunta it would probably be enough. Or his 1000 shadow clones would probably do the job as well. then there's rasengan and substitution etc. "
I am aware but when I made my previous statement I meant taking away certain abilities that gave him a far superior edge since they have nothing to counter those attacks. And earlier incarnations as in Naruto such as the first story arc "
Oh well if it's pre-shippuden and they're together then they may stand a chance but he could still summon gamabunta and create 1000 clones of himself even pre-shippuden. "
I do not know much about Naruto except through the number of episodes I have seen and mangas I skimmed through most my knowledge comes from stuff my friends have told me it is not my particular cup of tea. So I am unaware of allot his capabilities so I do not know what I am up against but I do know allot about Spidey and Venom. Venom has a camouflage technique that not even Spider-Man's spidey sense can pick up. Plus Venom has a extremely fast  healing factor Spidey does as well but no where near as fast. Just some stuff to take in to affect. I am not sure what Naruto's Durability is but Spider-Man has brushed off blows from the Hulk and Juggernaut "
This is a huge stomp in Naruto's favour (this is sage Naruto, after all). Strength= Beyond that of Spiderman and Carnage combined. Sage Naruto tossed a giant rhino about 500 metres away, so it is speculated that he is in the 100 ton range (possibly more). Speed= Naruto easily. He moved so fast that Tsunade couldn't follow it.  Venom may have a good healing factor, but a rasengan or two later and he's out the picture. Rasenshuriken is spite. Not that Naruto would need any jutsu, taijutsu alone would be more than enough to make this a stomp. "
That Rhino was nowhere near 100 tons. 70 or 80 tons is more like it. "
Ah, but that is not how strength is measured, I was under the impression that in order to be classed as say a 30 toner you had to be able to lift 30 tons. But Naruto didn't just lift it, he tossed it around 500 metres away, which, I think you'll agree, is far more impressive than just lifting it. And even if Naruto were a 70 tonner (being generous to team 1), it's still far more than the combined strength of Spiderman and Venom. "
I agree that throwing is more impressive than just simply lifting. And I also agree with the fact that Naruto stomps this fight. "
How? He can't beat spiderman alone how will he with venom?
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » neji vs spiderman

@JThree47693 said:
" This is comes down to whoever gets the 1st hit. "
Going by facts it should be spiderman, if this was shippuden neji I say otherwise but this is young inexperienced neji and with spider sense and faster reflexes and experience he wins.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@rein said:
" so far as i can see it, Naruto and jariya don't have the firepower needed to put wwh down. And while WWh should beat jariya the 6 tail fox is resistant to physical attacks which is one of the only things hulk has (besides the sonic clap) so until somebody can prove differently i call this a draw "
Hulk can throw naruto into space or thunderclap him away.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Spider Man and Venom Vs Naruto

@FLCL1 said:
" spiderman lose  naruto wins "
No he does not at this point you are just trying to get the last word, all of your arguments were either shot down or not valid, so just stop while you still have some credibility, Spiderman wins in a  tough battle for the reasons stated above get over it, now mods please lock this thread.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@JThree47693 said:
" To be honest I wasnt trying to start a flame war, but now that I have, man it feels good. This is the 1st thread that I have made that was over 2 pages. But, really, try and keep it civilized. "
I'll try to tone it down I am trying not to flame but either people flame me or take what I say the wrong way.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@JThree47693 said:
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Im just loving the chaos I caused, it fuels me, makes me feel younger.........

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lol, you're too good at this.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@FLCL1 said:

" @Tradog:   u kno wat : / yea im not gonna accept ur apoloy not only are u bashing me on my comicvine account of which i admitted i dont kno much u called me mediocre -_- well asshole im respected and im a great debater here thats all i care about. f**k comicvine u and comicvine can rent a hotel and f**k each other ;). 2 dollars to buy a comic? dude i live no where near a comic book store not only that but 2 dollar is gas money for my car so u can shove that lecture up ur ass ;) k  srry dude tht wasnt a proper srry and i wont accept it "

So what you're saying is because I told the truth you are mediocre based on debates and based on your ratings I even said I was the same, I am not a asshole for telling the truth and you are not a great debater its good you have self confidence but you do kinda suck at debating at times, yea F**k our sister site huh? Because you could not handle being bashed on debating and dbz yea I can have sex with a website huh? You act like comicvine is my favorite site to be on or something. Neither do I its called Ebay they sell pairs of comics for 2 dollars or less is you don't have even 2 dollars to spare then I don't know but I'd suggest you get a higher paying job or something and gas cost more then 2 bucks it was not a lecture more like truth it was not a apology to be friends or anything I just said I was sorry for taking my frustration out on you nothing more ;) Sorry dude you got the wrong idea it was not really a apology and I wont lose sleep over you not accepting anyway. And you act like you deserve a full proper sorry or something, that's not the case as far as me taking my frustration out on you, you deserved everything else that was said on both here on comicvine get over it and as for those insults, are you 12 or something? All and all you are not important enough for me to care weather you accept or not plain and simple.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » neji vs spiderman

@InfiniteGeass said:

" @Tradog: This guy:

Granted he has a few more powers than the real Spider Man, but still. "
 Kidoumaru power set wanst like Spider-Man's,i dont remember Kidoumaru liffting 10 tons,having a web stronger than steel,being a genius and being able to antecipate your oponents attacks,also how much time have they fought? Around a few minuets?
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » neji vs spiderman

@InfiniteGeass said:
" I thought he already fought Spiderman and barely beat him and almost died in the process. "
Who?
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Spider Man and Venom Vs Naruto

@rein said:

" L @Tradog said:

Sigh, you're still trying too hard, if you're gonna insult someone try a good insult not these juvenile ones seeing as how you can't even grasp simple things in debates I don't see how you would ever even get hired let alone someone's boss again you aren't my boss so how would you know how well I type when I try? You don't, so drop it.  1. Kage level speed?  I doubt that, and again I addressed  spiderman hit people way faster then naruto (Quicksilver,Speedster ect) so it doesn't matter how fast naruto is in that form, he was said to be a 10 tonner? Is this recent? Because if not it does not matter when he has shown to be able to life more. Oh wow, he tossed a rhino!? No way!  Guess what spiderman took a sentinel down ( Which is more then a big rhino did you know that) lol dude naruto is not stronger then spiderman. What proof do you have that naruto is a 80 ton lifter? Because the rhino was big? And since you never read a comic with venom I will ignore the whole ''Naruto is stronger then venom and spiderman combined'' comment but I will say that's incorrect. 2.Oh yes because some woman could not see it I guess spiderman can't either even though he tracked speedsters that other people could not see before. And  guess what? Spiderman dodged a bullet and the guy who shot at him and his partners didn't see him so I guess by your logic spiderman is just as fast if not faster then naruto. Also there is a thing called spider sense that he uses in that kind of situation. Being eaten by a snake and being absorbed by venom are different when he absorbs you, you are apart of him you die thats it when he gets you in, and if spiderman and venom are working together it will hit spiderman is smarter then naruto and jiraiya. 3. Again your logic fails first off, naruto is not stronger then spiderman or more durable, maybe in speed he beats him but that does not matter. No venom is stronger then spiderman by quite a bit he broke out of it because so spiderman is stronger then naruto, venom is stronger then spiderman, get the picture?  It would seem I know a lot more about anime then you especially naruto, I don't love comics in fact I love anime a lot more the fact that I am more careful not to get banned on animevice then on comicvine I  just know when they win and I know a lot about both sides you know just about nothing of comics so don't think I love comics because I know what I'm talking about you know nothing about spiderman or his limitations just stop now while you still have what little credibility you had left. "

1. Speed- i don't remember spiderman ever Catching quicksilver, but it was likely pis like hulk catching quicksilver. anyway that is A reaction time feat because it likley had to do with his spider sense. 
2. Strength- i think you seem to be thrown off when they say rhino
And yes, spidey was confirmed as a 10 ton superhero is the BND arc.  "
1.Spiderman has caught quicksilver and other speedsters many times so it's not PIS same with hulk and northstar and quicksilver ect 
2. I am up to date on the latest naruto chapter, I saw that and knew what they meant  still spiderman taking a train,sentinel and a building seem more impressive. 
 
As for lifting ''   Spidey's strength level has varied over the years. In the beginning, he could lift nearly 10 tons. After a while, he seemed to be able to lift a bit more than 10 tons, with supreme effort. A bit later, he seemed to be more in the 15 ton range. Now he might be nearing 20 tons.  On the order of ten or twelve tons, max. He's nowhere near the Hulk, Iron Man,. Thor or those heavy hitters. He's mostly a speed and agility guy. He's way stronger and faster than the standard issue, garden variety human. Spider-man was in the 10 ton range, after the storyline "The Other" he was able to lift 20 tons, after the storyline "One More Day" he's now back at being able to lift 10 tons'' 
 
I could find that. 
 
As for naruto I agree he may be stronger then spiderman in sage mode  this is what I found ''  Well, i used the size of a blue whale for comparsion/scaling. 
 A blue whale is about 100ft and around 150 tons. The rhino seems larger then a blue whale, and you can also add the fact that whales are mostly made out of fat, while rhinos are more muscular. Muscle weighs more then fat~

So their's a possibility that the rhino is reaching 100 tons if not more.

Though, i rather not go too deep with this, but i say around 70 tons+. But their's a possibility that's the rhino is much heavier. The feat is also better if you add the momentum.
   So yea naruto may be stronger then spiderman but still spiderman has taken on and beat stronger people, his outclasses him in everything else and his superior experience,skill,spider sense and smarts give him the battle I am not saying its will be easy but he still wins.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@FLCL1 said:
" @Tradog said:
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@Tradog:  
4 tails or 6 tails has not been shown to be hurt so what no one in naruto except
 
Madara is strong enough we have no seen enough of the tails to know how strong he is 4 tails destroyed a small part of a forest and 9 tails is only a village buster so I don't know what 6 tails will do 
I will call it a draw when someone can provide a good enough argument proving so even so why put the ''or naruto wins'' option he does not win in any situation naruto is C class at best hulk solos this with ease dude.

 
 
thx for proving my point and ur fail. 
 
naruto( 4 and 6 tails) has not been hurt by ANY phisical means in naruto how can hulk win? 
 
solo's with ease HA can u smell ur own fail

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Lol I love how people try to personal attack others when they get mad. Just because he has not been shown to be hurt because no one else was able that automatically means hulk can't? Wow if anyone fails its you. Sad thing is I liked you and respected you even defended you in PMs on comicvine but if you are going to attack me for making a point then okay. "
wrong u attack ME first u accused me of disrespecting newdeath with my debates are u crazy??  i didnt name call or anything u basicly said my debates are so weak that i disrespected the ground he walked on  i wanted to call it a stalemate (which it is) but u countiued to insult me like i dont kno wat im talking about  comicvine?? land of arragant assholes who would spit on us animevicers?? let them talk  imma be the bigger man and say im srry i admit i took it a little to far but thats how i am when i debate sometimes so watch out XP "
I never attacked you dude I said you should not disrespect newdeath not with you debates but when you said something about his logic is not good or something, I also said you should not talk about people not being good debaters when your rep on comicvine proves you are not that good, yes they are arrogant but in most anime battles with fans I see the same thing but okay its cool. "
ummmmmmm no i simply said and quote "if we use urs and newdeaths logic we might as well not even use comic characters" i never insulted him or u  as for comicvine im well aware of my rep on comicvine  1. i never read a comic in my LIFE i go too comic vine to learn about comic characters because we use them here on vice  2. i got my rep from being a goku fan not because i cant debate  3. wat does my rep on vine have to do with my rep here? "
And then I explained that I felt it was some what offensive it was no big deal it was just how I felt just as you thought I was on ''Newdeath's nutz''. 
 
1.I'm aware of that by now, but then you shouldn't get in debates or forums about comics with little to no knowledge about the characters, comicvine only tell you so much same with wikipedia I'd invest in the 2 dollars and buy a comic before entering debates with them, I bring that up because I have seen your debates on comicvine with anime characters and all I was saying was you are mediocre  not to say I am not myself however I just don't think you should be criticizing anyone  thats all. 
2. As stated above and you act the same I see why you had a bad rep there no offense but maybe I just have not seen your true potential and am being bias seeing as how we were friends at some point I find it hard to say you suck but in all honesty I was taking my frustration with GIRUGAMESH's stupidity out on you I apologize and again like the hulk vs naruto debate if you never read a hulk book I'd suggest you let people like geraldthesloth,newdeath, or dcmarvel or even baito (Maybe not him AKA johnny from comicvine) do rhe debating or help you out otherwise you don't have a fair or credible argument.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Newdeath said:
" @GIRUGAMESH: I'm aware that you are quite upset with most Viners who probably have some stupid things to you but calling ComcVine a place where morons argue that Spider-Man is stronger than Vegeta and not be ridiculed is a little too far. Flaming our sister site like that can't lead to anything good and it will only rise the tension between Viners and Vicers.   ND "
My apologies, I was unaware it was a "sister site" (I had always seen this as a rival site, of sorts). Oh and Tradog, I will make sure to "watch out" in future. "
Yea thanks though it was not me who got my profile banned, but If I were you I'd make sure to not be so ''unobservant'' in the future.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Spider Man and Venom Vs Naruto

@GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Tradog said:
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" @Tradog said:
"Team 1 wins this. "
Thank you for providing such an articulate and well-supported argument. Don't bother posting your opinion unless you have something to back it up. "
I love how now you are trying so hard to attack me because I dunno I guess you felt offended. Anyway spiderman webs naruto fight over, or Venom absorbs naruto fight over, Spiderman punches naruto fight over. Why don't you take your own advice and  make a argument against my post instead of wasting time telling me to make a argument? "
I was not offended in any way, it's just that you made a pretty pointless statement.  1. "Spiderman webs Naruto"- wrong, so very wrong. Naruto's speed and strength outclasses Spiderman's and Venom's, he's not getting hit. Oh and if Venom can break out of Spiderman's web with little effort, Naruto could do it effortlessly. 2. Venom absorbs Naruto? When did he do that to anyone? And again, it's not going to hit. 3. Spiderman puches Naruto? Ok, then Naruto punches him back 10 times harder.  I have been making valid arguments the whole time, if you would care to look back over previous pages. You are the only one supporting the marvel team, they are totally outclassed.  "
Non of my statements were pointless.  1.Naruto has been hit by slow people before spiderman has also webbed super speed villains and heros aswell as for strength unless this is sage mode then no he does not spiderman lifted a building and ripped a train off it's tracks naruto has done nothing close to that. 2. Read a spiderman comic he absorbed people all the time, wow you are comparing two different people so because venom who is physically stronger then spiderman broke out of his web that means naruto can? Well by your logic since sasuke beat naruto  then so can spiderman and venom. And again spiderman has hit faster people then naruto. 3.Naruto can't punch as hard as spiderman you have not made valid points in fact I don't think you even read comics not enough to debate anyway weather its only me or all of animevice you and no one else made a valid argument. "
Referring to your earlier statement, you're lucky: if I was your boss, I'd sack you on the spot.  1. Naruto has been hit by slow people before? Really? Because the only person who has ever hit Naruto in sage mode was Pain, who has kage level speed at least (and he had to outnumber him to do it). Spiderman lifted a building? WOW. You do realise that Spiderman is a confirmed 10 tonner? Naruto in sage mode has strength that would make spiderman look pathetic, he tossed a GIANT RHINO several hundred metres away. Is that getting through to you? Naruto in sage mode is, at the very least, an 80 tonner, which is stronger than Venom and Spiderman put together (because 80 is more than 10, do you see that?)2. Sage naruto moved so fast that Tsunade couldn't follow it. Ok, I accept that Venom can absorb people, but the fact is, it still wont hit (oh and he could break out of it anyway, Naruto pre-shippuden broke out of a snake's stomach). 3. "Wow you are comparing two different people so because Venom who is physically stronger than Spiderman broke out of his web that means Naruto can?" Well actually, if person A can lift 50 tons and can break out of something, logic follows that person B who can lift 100 tons could break out the same thing with little difficulty. Of course Naruto can punch harder than spiderman, he moves faster and is stronger.  You don't know enough about anime, it would seem. If you love comics so much, I recommend going to comicvine, this is ANIMEvice. And for the record, I was the one who knew the limitations of Spidey's strength, not you. "
Sigh, you're still trying too hard, if you're gonna insult someone try a good insult not these juvenile ones seeing as how you can't even grasp simple things in debates I don't see how you would ever even get hired let alone someone's boss again you aren't my boss so how would you know how well I type when I try? You don't, so drop it. 
 
1. Kage level speed?  I doubt that, and again I addressed  spiderman hit people way faster then naruto (Quicksilver,Speedster ect) so it doesn't matter how fast naruto is in that form, he was said to be a 10 tonner? Is this recent? Because if not it does not matter when he has shown to be able to life more. Oh wow, he tossed a rhino!? No way!  Guess what spiderman took a sentinel down ( Which is more then a big rhino did you know that) lol dude naruto is not stronger then spiderman. What proof do you have that naruto is a 80 ton lifter? Because the rhino was big? And since you never read a comic with venom I will ignore the whole ''Naruto is stronger then venom and spiderman combined'' comment but I will say that's incorrect. 
2.Oh yes because some woman could not see it I guess spiderman can't either even though he tracked speedsters that other people could not see before. And  guess what? Spiderman dodged a bullet and the guy who shot at him and his partners didn't see him so I guess by your logic spiderman is just as fast if not faster then naruto. Also there is a thing called spider sense that he uses in that kind of situation. Being eaten by a snake and being absorbed by venom are different when he absorbs you, you are apart of him you die thats it when he gets you in, and if spiderman and venom are working together it will hit spiderman is smarter then naruto and jiraiya. 
3. Again your logic fails first off, naruto is not stronger then spiderman or more durable, maybe in speed he beats him but that does not matter. No venom is stronger then spiderman by quite a bit he broke out of it because so spiderman is stronger then naruto, venom is stronger then spiderman, get the picture? 
 
It would seem I know a lot more about anime then you especially naruto, I don't love comics in fact I love anime a lot more the fact that I am more careful not to get banned on animevice then on comicvine I  just know when they win and I know a lot about both sides you know just about nothing of comics so don't think I love comics because I know what I'm talking about you know nothing about spiderman or his limitations just stop now while you still have what little credibility you had left.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@Newdeath said:
" @GIRUGAMESH: I'm aware that you are quite upset with most Viners who probably have some stupid things to you but calling ComcVine a place where morons argue that Spider-Man is stronger than Vegeta and not be ridiculed is a little too far. Flaming our sister site like that can't lead to anything good and it will only rise the tension between Viners and Vicers.   ND "
Well said. Though comicvine may have some jerks its not all bad even though I got banned lol.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Tradog said:
" @GIRUGAMESH said:
" @FLCL1 said:
"@GIRUGAMESH: we deal with "special" debaters sometimes "
I often have that problem with Tradog XD "
Dude you try too hard, often? We debated like once lol in fact I didn't even know you debated until yesterday, after seeing you post I have no idea why you are talking like you're a good debater or something, FLCL1 should not be talking either his debates and rep on comicvine are enough for me not to take him seriously. "
Oh dear, somebody is rambling. And I have been fully aware of you 'debating', it's not my fault you are unobservant. "
Well since you failed to make a argument and continue to try too hard and insult me with 14 year old insults I guess you have no more to bring to the table in that case hulk team wins and this should be locked.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@FLCL1 said:
" @Tradog said:
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@Tradog:  
4 tails or 6 tails has not been shown to be hurt so what no one in naruto except
 
Madara is strong enough we have no seen enough of the tails to know how strong he is 4 tails destroyed a small part of a forest and 9 tails is only a village buster so I don't know what 6 tails will do 
I will call it a draw when someone can provide a good enough argument proving so even so why put the ''or naruto wins'' option he does not win in any situation naruto is C class at best hulk solos this with ease dude.

 
 
thx for proving my point and ur fail. 
 
naruto( 4 and 6 tails) has not been hurt by ANY phisical means in naruto how can hulk win? 
 
solo's with ease HA can u smell ur own fail

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Lol I love how people try to personal attack others when they get mad. Just because he has not been shown to be hurt because no one else was able that automatically means hulk can't? Wow if anyone fails its you. Sad thing is I liked you and respected you even defended you in PMs on comicvine but if you are going to attack me for making a point then okay. "
wrong u attack ME first u accused me of disrespecting newdeath with my debates are u crazy??  i didnt name call or anything u basicly said my debates are so weak that i disrespected the ground he walked on  i wanted to call it a stalemate (which it is) but u countiued to insult me like i dont kno wat im talking about  comicvine?? land of arragant assholes who would spit on us animevicers?? let them talk  imma be the bigger man and say im srry i admit i took it a little to far but thats how i am when i debate sometimes so watch out XP "
I never attacked you dude I said you should not disrespect newdeath not with you debates but when you said something about his logic is not good or something, I also said you should not talk about people not being good debaters when your rep on comicvine proves you are not that good, yes they are arrogant but in most anime battles with fans I see the same thing but okay its cool.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Spider Man and Venom Vs Naruto

@GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Tradog said:
" @GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Tradog said:
"Team 1 wins this. "
Thank you for providing such an articulate and well-supported argument. Don't bother posting your opinion unless you have something to back it up. "
I love how now you are trying so hard to attack me because I dunno I guess you felt offended. Anyway spiderman webs naruto fight over, or Venom absorbs naruto fight over, Spiderman punches naruto fight over. Why don't you take your own advice and  make a argument against my post instead of wasting time telling me to make a argument? "
I was not offended in any way, it's just that you made a pretty pointless statement.  1. "Spiderman webs Naruto"- wrong, so very wrong. Naruto's speed and strength outclasses Spiderman's and Venom's, he's not getting hit. Oh and if Venom can break out of Spiderman's web with little effort, Naruto could do it effortlessly. 2. Venom absorbs Naruto? When did he do that to anyone? And again, it's not going to hit. 3. Spiderman puches Naruto? Ok, then Naruto punches him back 10 times harder.  I have been making valid arguments the whole time, if you would care to look back over previous pages. You are the only one supporting the marvel team, they are totally outclassed.  "
Non of my statements were pointless. 
 
1.Naruto has been hit by slow people before spiderman has also webbed super speed villains and heros aswell as for strength unless this is sage mode then no he does not spiderman lifted a building and ripped a train off it's tracks naruto has done nothing close to that. 
2. Read a spiderman comic he absorbed people all the time, wow you are comparing two different people so because venom who is physically stronger then spiderman broke out of his web that means naruto can? Well by your logic since sasuke beat naruto  then so can spiderman and venom. And again spiderman has hit faster people then naruto. 

3.Naruto can't punch as hard as spiderman you have not made valid points in fact I don't think you even read comics not enough to debate anyway weather its only me or all of animevice you and no one else made a valid argument.
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Mew and Mewtwo Vs Goku

@ssjsuperman said:
" @cfatalis:
yes some pokemon are far beyoned dbz level. 
 
    arceus could solo the hole  dbz universe 
 
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Whats he gonna do create a universe on them?
Post by Tradog (535 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » WWH and She Hulk vs Naruto and Jariya

@GIRUGAMESH said:
" @FLCL1 said:
"@GIRUGAMESH: we deal with "special" debaters sometimes "
I often have that problem with Tradog XD "
Dude you try too hard, often? We debated like once lol in fact I didn't even know you debated until yesterday, after seeing you post I have no idea why you are talking like you're a good debater or something, FLCL1 should not be talking either his debates and rep on comicvine are enough for me not to take him seriously.
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