Tradog (Level 6)

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@Deacon_Sephiroth said:

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@Tradog said:

"Nerx said:

"@Tradog: good point, however Kizaru can simply phase to goku's Kamehameha... is that all?"

oh ok sorrt I love one peice but I havnt been reading the manga so i'll read online anyway goku gets faster in  kio ken so mabey he can get him as soon as he turnes solid also how can this guy hurt even hit goku lol? LUFFY ROCKS! btw is one peice still going on or is it over?"

no, Goku cannot move rfaster, this character can turn into light, Goku cannot move faster than light, even in kao kenyes, he can hurt Goku as all One Piece big characters, he's a ridiculously powerful fighter, and as far as I can tell, impervious to any harm Goku could do.WITH knowledge of the devil fruit's weakness to water submerssion of the deep sea metal, he might be abel to do something.WITHOUT this knowledge Goku is a dead monkey. "

ok he may be faster but  when goku got to namek he was FTL and how can he hurt goku if vegetas planet buster attack didnt even kill him  he may be powerful but goku has faced people like  vegeta and nappa who were very powerful  goku has face and beat people faster and stronger than him and won  and about the water  a good sprit bomb can do seeing as how he gets energy from it and what attack does this guy have that is a planet buster or something that can hurt goku? "

Ah dude i am talking pre-Namek goku as in him vs vegeta kaio ken era ... not post-kick-Frieza's-ass era "

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@Tradog said:

"Nerx said:

"@Tradog: good point, however Kizaru can simply phase to goku's Kamehameha... is that all?"

oh ok sorrt I love one peice but I havnt been reading the manga so i'll read online anyway goku gets faster in  kio ken so mabey he can get him as soon as he turnes solid also how can this guy hurt even hit goku lol? LUFFY ROCKS! btw is one peice still going on or is it over?"

no, Goku cannot move rfaster, this character can turn into light, Goku cannot move faster than light, even in kao kenyes, he can hurt Goku as all One Piece big characters, he's a ridiculously powerful fighter, and as far as I can tell, impervious to any harm Goku could do.WITH knowledge of the devil fruit's weakness to water submerssion of the deep sea metal, he might be abel to do something.WITHOUT this knowledge Goku is a dead monkey. "

ok he may be faster but  when goku got to namek he was FTL and how can he hurt goku if vegetas planet buster attack didnt even kill him  he may be powerful but goku has faced people like  vegeta and nappa who were very powerful  goku has face and beat people faster and stronger than him and won  and about the water  a good sprit bomb can do seeing as how he gets energy from it and what attack does this guy have that is a planet buster or something that can hurt goku?"

wow, Goku fanboi wake up call....Vegat's plaent buster didn't hurt him? It didn't hit him, so grats.What DID kill Goku... a beem through the chest, heart disease, and an explosion that only destroyed a VERY small planet.And no the spirit bomb has nothing to do with the ocean. "

" I wish people would stop using the whole nine tails thing. Naruto is nothing more than a wild animal, and loses all inteligence and common sense.

In sage mode, he is very smart and one of the most intelligent fighters in the series. Power is not everything people :)

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@Deacon_Sephiroth said:

" Two tails, no more needed to own kid Goku. "

Thats interesting seeing as how nine tails can only destroy a city while ozaaru can destroy a planet in a year only because the moon goes down often and 4 taild couldnt even touch orochimaru

Last i checked this was naruto vs Goku. Not Nine Tails Vs Oozaru. Neither one will transform.

Did you even read or watch that fight. Naruto hit Orochimaru and more than once. The only problem was putting him down, which is almost impossible to do.

@Tradog said:

kid goku was trained to be light speed with kami and popo

Can you show me proof that Goku can move at light speed, when he was a kid? I dont think he ever achieved light speed. This not counting Instant transmission.

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@Deacon_Sephiroth said:

" Two tails, no more needed to own kid Goku. "

 goku can do his  ape fist that he did on piccolo a guy who would own naruto anyway naruto got knocked out and died from falling off a cliff and has died multiple times and is only alive because of the countless times ninetails has saved him

Whats stopping Naruto from surrrounding Goku with hundreds of clones and launching a load of rasenshurikens, Only one needs to hit, and once it does Goku's body will be reduced to near nothing. Naruto can use his clones tto defend himself or just use them to distract Goku. Afterall he ain't that bright. Naruto does not need to fight right away. He can also use his clones to determine Goku's speeed, strength, technique and abiliities. From thir he can figure out a plan to defeat him. He's done it against Pein and kakuzu.

Naruto has never died. A younger naruto requires the nine tails but current doesen't.

@Tradog said:

a max kamehameha  can destroy a castle by master roshi now imagine goku doing it or goku will blow naruto up befor he goes to nine tailes goku wins almost easly. "

Naruto could dodge it, or create clones to surround himself and have them take the attack. He could also summon Gambunta, and him crush Goku.

I do honestly belive  Goku would win, as my first post in this thread says, but i dont believe its a curbstomp in Goku's favour. Thats why im debating. ^_^

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@Deacon_Sephiroth said:

" Two tails, no more needed to own kid Goku. "

Thats interesting seeing as how nine tails can only destroy a city while ozaaru can destroy a planet in a year only because the moon goes down often and 4 taild couldnt even touch orochimaru kid goku was trained to be light speed with kami and popo and goku can do his  ape fist that he did on piccolo a guy who would own naruto anyway naruto got knocked out and died from falling off a cliff and has died multiple times and is only alive because of the countless times ninetails has saved him baby goku was only knocked out from falling off a waterfall a max kamehameha  can destroy a castle by master roshi now imagine goku doing it or goku will blow naruto up befor he goes to nine tailes goku wins almost easly."

It's not interesting at all, if you wanted this fight to be between an oozaru, you should post an oozaru, otherwise it's not the case. Kid goku moving at "light speed" is incorrect and inconsistent, that was not stated nor was he able to move anywhere near lightspeed later in life when he was even stronger then he was as a kid, your arguements are based on VERY selective and inconsistent showings. And please don't bring up deaths when using kakarot as a refrence you should know he dies every wednesday. He gets hit by regular thrown objects al lthe time, I change my arguement, Naruto doesn't even need the nine-tails he just outfights him in every way. "

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@Tradog said:

"Nerx said:

"@Tradog: good point, however Kizaru can simply phase to goku's Kamehameha... is that all?"

oh ok sorrt I love one peice but I havnt been reading the manga so i'll read online anyway goku gets faster in  kio ken so mabey he can get him as soon as he turnes solid also how can this guy hurt even hit goku lol? LUFFY ROCKS! btw is one peice still going on or is it over?"

no, Goku cannot move rfaster, this character can turn into light, Goku cannot move faster than light, even in kao kenyes, he can hurt Goku as all One Piece big characters, he's a ridiculously powerful fighter, and as far as I can tell, impervious to any harm Goku could do.WITH knowledge of the devil fruit's weakness to water submerssion of the deep sea metal, he might be abel to do something.WITHOUT this knowledge Goku is a dead monkey. "

" Two tails, no more needed to own kid Goku. "