TheManipulater (Level 10)

Its funny how this thread is still going on. Goku wins easily. Whoever says Super Skrull is physically stronger than Goku don't know what they are talking about. Super Skrull can lift approximately 85 tons, 85 tons! That's not even as strong as The Thing, hell Marvel Ares can contend with that. SSJ4 Goku lifted a city. A city weighs way more than 85 tons. 85 tons is the weight of an argentinosaurus. A city can weigh over millions of tons. Its flat out illogical to even say that Super Skrull is stronger than Goku who has a much better strength feat than him. Also don't forget that Goku hits a lot harder than Super Skrull. Being a martial artist, he is a master striker and his strikes will be one of the hardest strikes Super Skrull has ever felt. Not to mention that Goku can channel ki into his fists.   People also tend forget that speed is a big factor in fights. Goku can literally dodge almost all of Super Skrull's attacks with his superior speed. Hell he can even blitz him before the skrull can think. Goku is also a massive energy projector. He has greater destructive power than the skrull. At SSJ he can already destroy entire planets, and considering how much powerful the SSJ4 form is than the SSJ form, its really monstrous what SSJ4 Goku can destroy with enough energy projection. He can easily incinerate Super Skrull. The only thing the skrull's can use to his advantage is using a bubble to blow Goku's brain up, but even that won't work since he'll be speed blitz before he can even think of doing that.   Super Skrull's a chump. He's not winning this fight. Goku is faster, stronger, a better fighter and an energy manipulator.  ND

@TheManipulater: Skrull is officially less than class 100 and his feats are beneath those of Goku regardless of his actual strength level. Unless you have some scans of Skrull performing feats greater than lifting a city block and punching like a megatonner.

@TheManipulater:  It is very reliable, its called Science. All craters are formed on identical Planets with the same Gravity. Therefore Physics behaves identical in each scan. Gotenks caused a bigger crater with his punch to Majin Buu. Than both Superman & The Flash, therefore his punch had more force behind it.  Regardless if you think it is unreliable, it is certainly a Class 100 feat.  KingOfSnipers used this very same feat (Superman & Diana) and talked about the BIG Crater, on the previous page, downplaying Goku's power. He was suggesting that Superman and Goku Punches & Kicks are not in the same league, the scans I have posted prove they are within league with punches and kicks. Obviously Goku cannot compare to Superman with pulling Moon/Earth. Super Skrull limit is approx 85 tons, he cannot lift (press) 100 tons. Goku has him beat in Physical Strength. 

Gotenks Punches harder than Superman & Flash.  Gotenks > Superman & Flash
You are seriously high, if you think Goku is not class 100.
 
Observe the size of the craters:  
Gotenks punch from Kami Lookout
Superman punch him hard enough to shatter a small planet.  
Superman punch her from Sun to Earth
Flash punch with a Light Speed / Infinite Mass Punch

@TheManipulater: No this proves you don't know much about DBZ power and that you are being biased. You belittle Goku's strength even though he has a strike feat on par with megatonners and you trump Super Skrull beyond what he is. He is officially only class 85 in strength.

@TheManipulater: Goku is in the class millions at least. Goku picked up a city block and punched 17 to the other side of the planet. You are in denial if you think Goku is not class 100. He is much stronger than Skrull who only possesses the Thing's class 90 strength level. Clock hurting Goku? Everybody knows that was PIS. Goku has blocked planet busters, nukes and more. Skrull is only hypersonic in speed in contrast to Goku who can move faster than light. It doesn't matter who he fought. Surfer almost never utilizes his speed in a fight. Speaking of PIS I suppose you think that Surfer being restrained by the human Black Panther is a perfectly acceptable showing of the Surfer's power. So yeah, that's the guy who Skrull fought, a guy who gets restrained by humans.  So what Skrull was hit by Thor. So was Ironman and Sif and other characters that are weak by comparison. Thor could crush Skrull any time he wants. Goku can sense the spiritual power off of a target, can read their minds and his other senses are far more acute. Or did you forget about the episodes where he fought when he was blind? It doesn't matter if he can't see.

@KingOfSnipers said:

@MisterShin said:

@Zearth:  @distortion:   Goku brain has been under x100 Gravity.Vegeta, Frieza, Cell etc Have techniques which blow you up internally, this does not work on Goku. Nuff Said.  Besides Goku would just blitz him.

So how is this stopping a brain bubble again?

Bloodlusted man. Even if the bubble worked Goku could just blitz him.

Yes Goku has no defense for an object expanding inside his head. But it wont matter Goku has the superior speed and enough strength to get the job done here.

@Hellos said:

His Nova should actually kill Goku, since it's heat should beat out anything Goku's shown to tank at said temperatures.

I agree with this as I mentioned in my first post, but Goku could also kill Super Skrull with any number of his own blasts and he has the speed necessary to blitz Super Skrull.

Even if the bubble worked Goku could just blitz him. 

 Between Reed's rubber body and The Thing's durability packed in Super Skrull, it doesn't seem all that simple to think melee attacks will work. Super Skrull also has planet-level durability as he withstood the explosion within a planet-sized spaceship called the Harvester of Sorrows.

@TheManipulater said:

Goku is a certain type of fighter it has nothing to do with a fair fight at all. Its the way he goes about things, anyway, he can just flame on or go nova, nobody in DBZ can with stand the heat of the sun

You seem to be ignoring that he is bloodlusted in which case Goku easily crushes Skrull with no effort. And he could easily evade the Nova blast if he couldn't tank it.

I say Goku blitzes and nukes him. He just has to do it before Super Skrull uses his telepathy powers.

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exaggerating what, exactly?

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It's like, you really want to pull out DragonBall feats? Emperor Pilaf talking directly to the audience, people talking and breathing in outer space, Monster Carrot turning people into carrots by touching them, Goku locking goons up on the moon because they've been 'naughty'. But that's not what DB fans want to talk about. All they want to talk about is how Master Roshi busted the moon. The truth is, DragonBall is much too inconsistent and childish to take anything in it seriously.  "

Well its Toriyama World and we all have to live with it im afraid.

We could talk about Roshi Telepathy, Guldo powers,  Baba's Invisible fighter, Granpa Gohan, Akkuman etc etc

What about houses, cars, boats, aeroplanes, spaceships etc. contained inside small handheld capsules? Even a time machine is contained inside one, thats handy. LOL

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Been gone for a while but you still got it xD

i hope this is not sarcasm LOL! 

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" trunks slaughtered two planet busters who could also take a planet explosion one of them even sliced in halfyet trunks couldtn touch18. even vegeta a planet buster couldnt harm 18 "    

saiyans can die by a simple planet explosion, goku died by a planet explosion . killing a planet buster doesn't make you one. "

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Android 18 wins

Supergirl is not even an Earth-Buster

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" Anytime you have a battle with a DBZ character you have to rate their wildly inconsistent feats. "