TheManipulater (Level 10)

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Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

@Newdeath said:

Its funny how this thread is still going on. Goku wins easily. Whoever says Super Skrull is physically stronger than Goku don't know what they are talking about. Super Skrull can lift approximately 85 tons, 85 tons! That's not even as strong as The Thing, hell Marvel Ares can contend with that. SSJ4 Goku lifted a city. A city weighs way more than 85 tons. 85 tons is the weight of an argentinosaurus. A city can weigh over millions of tons. Its flat out illogical to even say that Super Skrull is stronger than Goku who has a much better strength feat than him. Also don't forget that Goku hits a lot harder than Super Skrull. Being a martial artist, he is a master striker and his strikes will be one of the hardest strikes Super Skrull has ever felt. Not to mention that Goku can channel ki into his fists.   People also tend forget that speed is a big factor in fights. Goku can literally dodge almost all of Super Skrull's attacks with his superior speed. Hell he can even blitz him before the skrull can think. Goku is also a massive energy projector. He has greater destructive power than the skrull. At SSJ he can already destroy entire planets, and considering how much powerful the SSJ4 form is than the SSJ form, its really monstrous what SSJ4 Goku can destroy with enough energy projection. He can easily incinerate Super Skrull. The only thing the skrull's can use to his advantage is using a bubble to blow Goku's brain up, but even that won't work since he'll be speed blitz before he can even think of doing that.   Super Skrull's a chump. He's not winning this fight. Goku is faster, stronger, a better fighter and an energy manipulator.  ND

I just showed you him lifting over 100 tons, have you read a comic with super skrull in it? if so tell me which one? GT is non cannon, do you undertstand that he goes SUPER NOVA, you dont incinerate someone who goes super nova, he could easily blow up his mind with a bubble, tell me how he would get out of this one? Goku is not faster than silver surfer who traverses galaxys, IT is fast but not that fast, skrull fought with him and knocked him off of his board, ss4 is weaker than ss3 also, ss3 has more destructive power than ss4 does, you can dodge a brain bubble sir, skrull can easily see goku coming, it would be like slowly watching somebody reappear in front of you, your really not getting the gravity of his ability's.
 

Now i respect your opinion a lot, but if people around ANIME vice really knew anything about COMIC book characters they will see that they are very over powered. just as manga/anime characters are.
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

@taichokage said:
@TheManipulater: Skrull is officially less than class 100 and his feats are beneath those of Goku regardless of his actual strength level. Unless you have some scans of Skrull performing feats greater than lifting a city block and punching like a megatonner.
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

@MisterShin said:
@TheManipulater:  It is very reliable, its called Science. All craters are formed on identical Planets with the same Gravity. Therefore Physics behaves identical in each scan. Gotenks caused a bigger crater with his punch to Majin Buu. Than both Superman & The Flash, therefore his punch had more force behind it.  Regardless if you think it is unreliable, it is certainly a Class 100 feat.  KingOfSnipers used this very same feat (Superman & Diana) and talked about the BIG Crater, on the previous page, downplaying Goku's power. He was suggesting that Superman and Goku Punches & Kicks are not in the same league, the scans I have posted prove they are within league with punches and kicks. Obviously Goku cannot compare to Superman with pulling Moon/Earth. Super Skrull limit is approx 85 tons, he cannot lift (press) 100 tons. Goku has him beat in Physical Strength. 
I'll give goku class 100 strength but skrull is beyond that
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

@MisterShin said:
Gotenks Punches harder than Superman & Flash.  Gotenks > Superman & Flash
You are seriously high, if you think Goku is not class 100.
 
Observe the size of the craters:  
Gotenks punch from Kami Lookout
Superman punch him hard enough to shatter a small planet.  
Superman punch her from Sun to Earth
Flash punch with a Light Speed / Infinite Mass Punch


I love how you use craters to calculate strength, it's unreliable.
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

@taichokage said:
@TheManipulater: No this proves you don't know much about DBZ power and that you are being biased. You belittle Goku's strength even though he has a strike feat on par with megatonners and you trump Super Skrull beyond what he is. He is officially only class 85 in strength.
Sir, i have read the DBZ manga all the way through 3 times, i have watched the series all the way through countless of times, i'm well aware of all the abilities and the limitations of ALL dbz characters, other wise i wouldnt be able to make a conclusion that super skrull would win this. I dont bellittle his strength, you over exxagerate it so i have to point out the truth
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

@taichokage said:
@TheManipulater: Goku is in the class millions at least. Goku picked up a city block and punched 17 to the other side of the planet. You are in denial if you think Goku is not class 100. He is much stronger than Skrull who only possesses the Thing's class 90 strength level. Clock hurting Goku? Everybody knows that was PIS. Goku has blocked planet busters, nukes and more. Skrull is only hypersonic in speed in contrast to Goku who can move faster than light. It doesn't matter who he fought. Surfer almost never utilizes his speed in a fight. Speaking of PIS I suppose you think that Surfer being restrained by the human Black Panther is a perfectly acceptable showing of the Surfer's power. So yeah, that's the guy who Skrull fought, a guy who gets restrained by humans.  So what Skrull was hit by Thor. So was Ironman and Sif and other characters that are weak by comparison. Thor could crush Skrull any time he wants. Goku can sense the spiritual power off of a target, can read their minds and his other senses are far more acute. Or did you forget about the episodes where he fought when he was blind? It doesn't matter if he can't see.
Proves there is no debating with you.
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

@taichokage said:

@KingOfSnipers said:

@MisterShin said:
@Zearth@distortion:   Goku brain has been under x100 Gravity.Vegeta, Frieza, Cell etc Have techniques which blow you up internally, this does not work on Goku. Nuff Said.  Besides Goku would just blitz him.
So how is this stopping a brain bubble again?
Bloodlusted man. Even if the bubble worked Goku could just blitz him.
So what your saying is, if the bubble worked, meaning after it exploded his mind, goku would than proceed to blitz him?, @Sonata said:

Yes Goku has no defense for an object expanding inside his head. But it wont matter Goku has the superior speed and enough strength to get the job done here.

Ummmm no, lol, goku is not faster than the silver surfer who skrull in the past knocked clean off of his board, @taichokage said:

@Hellos said:

His Nova should actually kill Goku, since it's heat should beat out anything Goku's shown to tank at said temperatures.
I agree with this as I mentioned in my first post, but Goku could also kill Super Skrull with any number of his own blasts and he has the speed necessary to blitz Super Skrull.
Have you even read a comic with super skrull in it? @Dream said:

Even if the bubble worked Goku could just blitz him. 

 Between Reed's rubber body and The Thing's durability packed in Super Skrull, it doesn't seem all that simple to think melee attacks will work. Super Skrull also has planet-level durability as he withstood the explosion within a planet-sized spaceship called the Harvester of Sorrows.
Thank you
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

Skrull is over class 100 strength---> goku is not
Super skrull has durability survive a blast from the power cosmic--->goku got cut by a clock
Super skrull can blow up gokus brain--->There is nothing he goku can do about it
How is the first move goku's? skrull has fought silver surfer who uses hyper space and he traverses galaxys in seconds, skrull would block or dodge.
Super skrull was hit dead in the face by THOR, YOU KNOW THE ''GOD'' and survived, he than went on to throw a building at him.
He can easily go invisible and turn the environment invisible also. goku can hit what he cant see
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

@taichokage said:
@TheManipulater said:
Goku is a certain type of fighter it has nothing to do with a fair fight at all. Its the way he goes about things, anyway, he can just flame on or go nova, nobody in DBZ can with stand the heat of the sun
You seem to be ignoring that he is bloodlusted in which case Goku easily crushes Skrull with no effort. And he could easily evade the Nova blast if he couldn't tank it.
Theres a difference between being blood lusted and having no morals off, and no, even when blood lusted skrull can just put a force field in goku's mind and expand thus killing him instantly. Seeing as the picture shows goku in ss4 he has very low showings, skrull can just wrap himself around goku and blow himself up, he can also go invisible which he can also use to make other things around him invisible, he has force fields, ETC he wins. Goku loses
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

Goku is a certain type of fighter it has nothing to do with a fair fight at all. Its the way he goes about things, anyway, he can just flame on or go nova, nobody in DBZ can with stand the heat of the sun
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

@Nevermind said:

I say Goku blitzes and nukes him. He just has to do it before Super Skrull uses his telepathy powers.

Since when has goku just blitzed somebody right off the bat without thinking?
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Goku vs superskrull

Asking for a flame war are we? skrull lobotomizes him
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Battles » Monkey D. Luffy vs Kurosaki Ichigo

You all forget how ichigo attacks, put someone there to protect and he will beat luggy no problem, but i'm giving this one to ichigo for reasons stated above.
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Battles » Super Girl vs Android 18

@MisterShin said:
" @TheManipulater: 
??? 
exaggerating what, exactly?
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Take your pick...Shin
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Super Girl vs Android 18

@MisterShin said:
" @DJSNuva1 said:

It's like, you really want to pull out DragonBall feats? Emperor Pilaf talking directly to the audience, people talking and breathing in outer space, Monster Carrot turning people into carrots by touching them, Goku locking goons up on the moon because they've been 'naughty'. But that's not what DB fans want to talk about. All they want to talk about is how Master Roshi busted the moon. The truth is, DragonBall is much too inconsistent and childish to take anything in it seriously.  "
Well its Toriyama World and we all have to live with it im afraid.
We could talk about Roshi Telepathy, Guldo powers,  Baba's Invisible fighter, Granpa Gohan, Akkuman etc etc

What about houses, cars, boats, aeroplanes, spaceships etc. contained inside small handheld capsules? Even a time machine is contained inside one, thats handy. LOL
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Ive read all of dragon ball, 3 times, if i read it again i'm going to have a seizure, your over exaggerating and you know this to be true
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Super Girl vs Android 18

@SilverGalford said:
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Been gone for a while but you still got it xD


i hope this is not sarcasm LOL! 
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Nope lol
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Comic Gods vs Manga Gods (Read OP)

Nothing good can come of this, Beyonder solo's
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Super Girl vs Android 18

@SilverGalford said:
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" trunks slaughtered two planet busters who could also take a planet explosion one of them even sliced in halfyet trunks couldtn touch18. even vegeta a planet buster couldnt harm 18 "    

saiyans can die by a simple planet explosion, goku died by a planet explosion . killing a planet buster doesn't make you one. "
Been gone for a while but you still got it xD
Post by TheManipulater (725 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Super Girl vs Android 18

@MisterShin said:
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Android 18 wins

Supergirl is not even an Earth-Buster

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This right here...this right here is why smh,@DJSNuva1 said:
" Anytime you have a battle with a DBZ character you have to rate their wildly inconsistent feats. "
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