takashichea (Level 25)

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Hard Work vs Natural Talent

This list was inspired my siblings and teammates.

Beware of Mild Spoilers Ahead.

1. Haruka Nanase

A rival of Rin. He only swims free and quit competitive swimming after an event in middle school. When he defeated Rin in a race during middle school, he was sad that Rin was frustrated over his loss. Unlike Rin, Haruka wants to swim because he loves the water. In comparison, Rin wants to swim to better himself.

2. Rin Matsuoka

A rival of Haruka. He worked hard to achieve his dreams of becoming an Olympic swimmer by attending a school in Australia. A dream that his dead father could not ever reach.

3. Rock Lee

A rival of Neji Hyuga, and at the same time, he is somewhat a rival to Sasuke. Day in and day out, Rock Lee trains to become the best ninja at Taijutsu. He is an odd ninja who cannot perform any ninjutsu. His training came to the test when he fought Gaara in the Chuunin Exam. Despite his loss and spinal injury, Rock Lee continues his path as a ninja.
For Neji, Rock Lee strives to beat him. With every defeat, Rock Lee trains hard to get Neji to acknowledge his skills.

4. Neji Hyuga

A rival of Rock Lee. Armed with the Byakugan, his eyes, and Gentle Fist Techniques, Neji is a naturally talented ninja. At first, Neji believes that Naruto and Rock Lee will never reach his level because they don't have the skills to do it. Later on, Neji acknowledges Lee's strengths.

5. Kagura

Kagura is a very athletic high school girl who works hard to be the best. She has never won against, Sakaki, however, and it drives her to pursue a one-sided rivalry with the taller girl.

6. Sakaki

Sakaki doesn't have much interest in sports despite her high talent for it. She views Kagura indifferently, but they become friends later in the series.

7. Azula

Azula is a prodigy firebender who is also skilled at lightning bending. As a little girl, she could perform firebending with ease.

8. Zuko

Unlike Azula, Zuko could not firebend well during his childhood. With help from Uncle Iroh, he worked hard to perfect lightning bending

9. Mashiro Shiina

A talented artist who wants to be a mangaka. She lacks common sense in that she can't take care of herself.

10. Sorata Kanda

A young student and somewhat "caretaker" for Shiina. He finds out he wants to be a video game programmer. Doesn't have a lot of luck or talent compared to Shiina, and his envy causes rift and conflict in his relationship with Shiina.

bigz007on Sept. 21, 2013 at 7:51 p.m.

How about Aang for natural talent, he is avatar after all, and maybeToph for hard work. She is a blind girl who had to work real hard. (I don't know, she may have some talent too).

takashichea moderator on Sept. 21, 2013 at 7:55 p.m.


Aang and Toph sounds good, but Zuko and Azula is a better comparison. Zuko worked hard to perfect his lightning attack while Azula does everything with ease. In the past, Azula's firebending impressed her father. Compared to little Zuko, he couldn't firebend well. Thanks for the inspiration. I forgot about Avatar.


How's the Rock Lee comparisons? I was debating whether to go with Sasuke and Rock Lee or Rock Lee and Neji. I went both pairs.

bigz007on Sept. 22, 2013 at 1:38 a.m.

Yea, you're wight, Zuko and Azula is much better.

Sure Sasuke is almost a definition of a guy who have a natural talent, but he also worked really hard for his current abilities. He left Konoha so he can find Orochimaru to teach him more about forbidden jutsu, so that he can train even harder. IMO he is never shown to be in training, but he works really hard.

Neji on the other hand also have a natural talent and I think he could be so much stronger if he worked harder. He and Sasuke have almost the same natural talent and Sasuke is much, much stronger. The reason for that is Sasuke's hard work. My point is that Neji was relying mostly on his talent.

Plus, Neji and Rock Lee are true rivals, and they are in the same team. Lee never cared about Sasuke, and he was training his a$$ of to prove himself to Neji.

bigz007on Sept. 23, 2013 at 1:01 a.m.

How about Roronoa Zoro for hard work? He is shown to be always training (like Rock Lee) but I have no idea who would be the one with natural talent.

takashichea moderator on Sept. 23, 2013 at 10:50 a.m.


The only characters I can think of is Kuina or Mihawk. I have read the manga up to Skypiea, and for the anime, I skipped to Long Ring arc. I don't know much about Mihawk, but it seemed he is naturally talented.

bigz007on Sept. 23, 2013 at 11 a.m.

Don't know, maybe. He might just be hard worker himself.

madnessreaveron Dec. 19, 2013 at 1:13 a.m.

Well another example is Hermit defeat Bersetker in history's strongest disciple.

takashichea moderator on Dec. 19, 2013 at 2:38 a.m.


Can you tell me the two characters and why? I wasn't sure what you said, and I'm not familiar with History's Strongest Disciple.

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