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Battles » Luffy VS Renji

@futuretomorrow: I don't think so. Given that Mask's mile long punches did not even wound him, any blitz attack from Luffy isn't going to cut it. He'll need Grizzly Magnums or Elephant Guns to register damage and those are slow in comparison.And while I'm at it, Welcome to vice.
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Battles » Various Characters as Bishokuya

10 for a gauntlet. I don't know if that would apply to a team gauntlet.
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Battles » Various Characters as Bishokuya

Honestly, many of these are waaaaaay off. I'm not sure this thread is legal but I'll answer you. 
 
The Hunters could not even beat Capture level 40 imo. In retrospect, The Regal Mammoth is 48 and the Magma Tortoise is 70. Even that Golem with a CL of 27 could kick the Kingsand co. 300+ km. The Hunters could probably take on a Troll Kong CL9. 
 
Same for the Guild but they are somewhat stronger than the Hunters. Due to some hax they canpotentially tke out some strong things but not the  
Sphinx. They need something with low speed.  
 
The strawhats lack hax and enough Raw Power to mess with the Sphinx. Maybe all combined they can take on the Regal Mammoth? Possibly stronger depending on Zoro and Luffy's expected feats that are coming. 
 
The Sins could take out the Sphinx rather easily, but they'd lose to the 4 Beast. But the hype of Mel and Merlin may allow them to exceed this soon. 
 
I'll post more later, but only if it's still open.
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Battles » Boa Hancock runs the Shonen Waifu Gauntlet (JOKE)

Hancock clear but with the possible exception of Rin. By power scaling, Rin would probably murder her.
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Battles » Kizaru VS Gremmy

I wonder if Kizaru has kicked as a living cookie before.
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Battles » Urahara and Isshin vs Orochimaru and Jiraiya

Edo requires extensive prep. If they had Edo, that would actually be an unfair advantage. They aren't getting cheated here.
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Battles » Might Guy vs Toneri

@ohplease said:

@akronawol17: Where are you getting this from?

@taichokage: Naruto characters can live in space. Why is Guy any different?

They can't breathe in water = they need oxygen. 
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Battles » Urahara and Isshin vs Orochimaru and Jiraiya

@RampagingSimian said:

@chill21: Oh good lord.

Kenpachi - Island

Ulqiourra - Town

Grimmjow - MCB

If by Island you mean Japan then this makes sense. Otherwise that's downplaying. 
 
And Ulquiorra town level?You know his reiatsu alone can crumble Las Noches which was said to be as large or Larger than Seireitei?
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Battles » Might Guy vs Toneri

@generator2000: Why is this fight on the moon when Guy can't live in space (based on showings)? He might as well be underwater. 
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Battles » Aang vs Natsu

I think they are relatively close but Natsu is the more formidable one here in my opinion. Skimming through, it seems like most of us are saying one easily wins over the other. While it could end quickly, they are not so far apart in power.
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#Anime Vice Discussion Threads » Toriko Discussion (Manga)

@EVA_01:  Yeah Seiya is also guilty, but at least the main character looked and sounded like a male. Lol. I guess my point is that bishounen were the minority then. Not now. They're so overwhelming that the standard for Bishounen now is borderline Yaoi.  
 
And yes. It is the best ongoing Shounen to me. By today's standards it could arguably be a Seinen. The sales have dropped and I am somewhat concerned about the fate of Toriko. Ending early is one thing but as long as they complete Acacia's Course,  the story won't be ruined. I would have little problem if it were moved from the main magazine like they did with D. Gray-Man, even becoming monthly, but that's less common than cancellation. I don't think it'll be cancelled (any time soon) but I wonder.
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Battles » Urahara and Isshin vs Orochimaru and Jiraiya

@ohplease: I could accept High tiers. But top tiers are characters like Yhwach, Ichibei, Aizen, Zaraki, Gremy. I don't know if any of the kage outside of those 3 are in this class of power. 
 
 Maybe Tobirama and possibly Mu. Tobirama especially is actually underrated in my opinion. 
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#Anime Vice Discussion Threads » Toriko Discussion (Manga)

@EVA_01: I think Togashi or Watsuki the creator of Kenshin started it. Looking back, it isn't until the mid-late 90's that the trend started to pick up, but it started with Kenshin and Yu Yu Hakusho from what I gather. He had a few Kurama types in Hakusho, then his wife the creator of Sailor Moon which ran during the same time as Hakusho started doing it too. (Not sure if they were married at the time ). Although bi-shounen in Shojo was not uncommon, but Sailor moon was unusually popular. The 80's stars were Goku, Kenshiro, Jojo, Seiya, then towards the very end of the 80's and start of the 90's, Kenshin and Yusuke, the latter not fitting into that group but Kurama was more popular than he was despite not being the main character.

I think the reason Toriko is only just making 2 million sales a year now is because the young demographic is not interested in that any more, nor are a lot of female readers. It's mostly folks that have been starved of Classic Shounen that are interested, or so it seems.

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Battles » Fiamma of the Right Vs Classic Dr.Strange

@EVA_01: @Saladking: So he'd get 1 shot by Bambina then? Wow, he's lucky if he can take out even one of the Heavenly Kings then. My bad guys.

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#Anime Vice Discussion Threads » Toriko Discussion (Manga)

@EVA_01: Exactly. In typical Shounen fashion, Guys are feminized and girls are hyper-feminized. Guys like Aimaru are considered skinny among Bishokuya, lol.

@SonNeko: Indeed. When I saw Rebecca in the anime I almost lost it.

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Battles » Urahara and Isshin vs Orochimaru and Jiraiya

@Kennedy_Uchiha said:

That huge wall of text is a detailed list of feats that show why Jiraiya and Orochimaru are > most Kage. Most Kage are> Ulquiorra

You cannot be serious. Make a Gokage vs Ulquiorra thread right now and see what people think. Barring the final chapter where Naruto himself joined the ranks, Ulquiorra would trash them. He is so far above most kage it's laughable. Only some of the Hokage are stronger than he is. EOS Naruto, Hashirama and maybe Minato. Not a single other kage is on his level, the Tsuchikage coming the closest.

@Kennedy_Uchiha said:

Im not even convinced that Isshin/Urahara is really > Ulquiorra so can we please stop assuming things Mr CosmicKnight. Lets stick to facts

Given that Aizen himself admitted he would have lost to either Isshin or Urahara 1 on 1 prior to the Hougyoku, I'd say it' safe to say that they are above Ulquiorra.

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Battles » Whom can defeat Reinhard?

@CosmicKnight75: Yeah that's true. But only the universe. I don't recall anything beyond that. Getbackers only happens in a single universe.

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#Anime Vice Discussion Threads » Toriko Discussion (Manga)

@EVA_01: Lol. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way. In recent years, Oda has gotten worse than Kubo. Just look at Robin now and Robin at her introduction.

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Battles » Fiamma of the Right Vs Classic Dr.Strange

@DhalSim said:

@taichokage said:

Dr Strange. At his best he could even defy LT and destroy multiverses if he wanted to, among numerous other hax spells.

Oh please, Dr. Strange was not multiversal. LT was only a star buster during classic times also. He's at best universal.

There is nobody on this website who will fall for that. Maybe you're referencing the old handbooks (which I own) that stated LT could destroy a star with one blast. That in no way said he was ONLY star level. He was the top of Marvel (even before the character TOAA was introduced officially, LT was around). He has dominion over the entire marvel omniverse. Classic marvel heroes were actually quite often stronger than their modern counterparts. It's only when you go very very far back when Marvel hadn't established it's power hierarchy that there were generally weaker characters.

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#Anime Vice Discussion Threads » Toriko Discussion (Manga)

@flashback180: I meant generally speaking of course. And are you sure? EVA obviously sees what I see. These are popular Bleach females

Orihime Inoue
Orihime Inoue
Rukia
Rukia
Matsumoto
Matsumoto

Now popular Toriko women

Those arms and legs
Those arms and legs
No explanation needed
No explanation needed
Female linebacker Shoulders
Female linebacker Shoulders

I'm not saying they are unattractive. Quite the opposite but the ones that aren't tiny or old tend to look like this. Quite different from Bleach females. I also used anime shots of Orihime and Matsumoto which is less exaggerated than the manga that makes them look even more feminine or voluptuous.

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