taichokage (Level 20)

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Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Yhwach

The bias is strong. I never once heard a NLF argument against the sages. Now the moment Bleach concretely surpassed Naruto in hax, it's the most debatable thing since "Could Goku survive in space" before BOG. Of course there's a limit. Yhwach can't beat Pre Recton Beyonder. But that's a ridiculous comparison. Kaguya can't disintegrate the Molecule Man with Gudou Dama either. That doesn't mean they couldn't disintegrate Yhwach if they hypothetically hit him. Stop using a double standard. There's a NLF to everyone that isn't an omnipotent but Kaguya is hardly a standard for that.

Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Ichibei Vs Juubito

@SonNeko said:

@EVA_01:

Lol.

@5th said:

Ichibei with a lot of effort

He can manipulate the black in Juubito's Gudou Dama's that can be used to seal, his sealing abilities could reach Juubito before Juubito has a chance to retaliate.

Although to be honest, a barrier and spam of Bijuu Dama's could take this.

Honestly, I didn't expect you to agree here.

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Battles » Kaguya vs Aizen and Yamamoto

Both can potentially one shot her but I'll be fair and say that My favorite Bleach villain loses to my least favorite Naruto villain even with back up from Yamaji.

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Battles » Askeladd vs the Punisher

@CosmicKnight75 said:

@Dream: @takashichea:

Whoops my bad, didnt know Askeladd was from a manga. Thought it was a game.

It totally looks like a game in that image. I would have thought the same had i not already read the series.

@Chef_Banchou: Yeah I think it's one of those where no matter what you do it'll be a tad lopsided in one or the other's favor.

Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Askeladd vs the Punisher

Never really cared much for the Punisher and so my knowledge is meh. But I'm only 2 chapters or so behind in Vinland Saga. I'm not sure but I think Askeladd could take him under these conditions.
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Toriko » Toriko Anime

Lol. Poor Komatsu.
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Battles » Current Ywach Runs The Gauntlet

That doesn't make them close to FTL. Even assuming that Ruyi Jingu were FTL, you don't need nearly that speed to dodge unless its at near point blank range. Anyway, there is no proof that Ruyi Jingu is FTL. It only takes light less than. 1 1/2 seconds to reach the moon. You'd have to prove that the time table were even shorter than that to be true. It may be but there is no proof.
Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Current Ywach Runs The Gauntlet

They are not FTL, but they are overpowered.
Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Wolverine vs Deathstroke

While Deathstroke lacks the means of killing Logan, Incapacitation might be plausible. If not likely. Even without prep he's incredibly formidable for the street level class. I'd give it to Slade 3/4.
Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Bambina vs Yamamoto

Even if Yama's Bankai were pre activated, Bambina could give him the Juha Bach treatment with a casual tail swipe.
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Battles » The Four Heavenly Kings vs this team

Hmm. There's so much hax on team 2 that in the speed equal round they might actually win.

In speed unequal, Coco could probably kill all 4 of them by himself. All 4 of team 2 can fly so if they started high in the air, they'd have a better chance.

Edit: Team 2 not team 4.

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Battles » Hendricksen vs Dangai ichigo

@akronawol17 said:

@taichokage: never trust powerlevels man. if there is one thing DBZ is consistent with, its showing powerlevels are pointless lol

Well I'd say it's more that DBZ itself is inconsistent. The likes of Toriko capture levels for instance are consistent aside from the "difficulty" exceptions. But i do get your point. It's just that holding series to DBZ standard is pretty extreme. Lol.

Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Hendricksen vs Dangai ichigo

@akronawol17 said:

@taichokage: didn't Cap'n overpower Dian though? i'd argue he's at least on par with her in strength.

as for the match, Dangai wins of he can avoid the snow, Hendy wins if he can land a hit with the snow. its 50/50

He didn't overpower her. They were roughly equal in performance. But when you see their actual levels, Diane is the strongest physically. Of course Demon Mode Meliodas may be stronger though.

Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Hendricksen vs Dangai ichigo

I'm still with Dangai. He is still stronger physically than anyone in Taizai by feats with the possible exception of Diane, but then give him greater speed on top of that. But what's more was that he became an ascended being and hax from people with lower energy than himself didn't work.
Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Medaka Kurokami vs Flash

It's not a NLF when you see the caliber of power in the manga. Practically every relevant character is a reality warper. And while I can see the point in the NLF argument, it doesn't apply to Flash. He's not far more powerful. He's simply far better in a single stat.
Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Kaguya Ōtsutsuki VS Yhwach

@5th said:

People will still pick Juha Bach just because of hype

Not entirely true.

Feats > Hype

Then by feats Kaguya can teleport and throw lethal bones. She didn't perform any of the relevant hype either. She's got planet hype. Cool. So does Ichigo and so did Yamamoto. Yhwach is stronger than them both.

Okay, lets get a feat of Juha Bach destroying something like a city or mountain?

What did Kaguya destroy again? Not that DC is very relevant when the forte of both are hax.

Kaguya is way more hax than Juha Bach, I want to see Bach try avoiding BFR or survive a planet hyped Gudou Dama.

BFR and Gudou Dama are more hax than Creating all 26+ Stern Ritter abilities with the ability to re-absorb them at will + his own Almighty which auto-nerf the opponent and sees what they will do before they do it? Right.

Not only that but Kaguya can attack via dimensions.

That seems rather irrelevant but for the record Yhwach created the Vandentei and can travel back and forth at will so...........

Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Aang vs. Orochimaru

@Whats_out_the_bag: Indeed. I actually have to think when we don't agree.

@taichokage:

Yo. I was actually waiting for someone who would give me a real challenge in a debate. It's all for the enjoyment.

Everyone is also of the opinion that 4 tailed Kurama is stronger than Aang. 4 tailed Kurama couldn't beat Orochimaru.

So because Orochimaru couldn't beat Itachi does that mean Itachi is over Jiraiya? No. Orochimaru is top Sannin.

That statement is irrelevant here. He's fighting a different type of character, who is much more versatile with their attacks.. As I said before in many bottles might doesn't win against abilities, so lets not just focus on who fought the mightiness ones. Lets look at who has the better abilities and skills shall we.

I agree. I was using Cerus' own logic against him.

I don't think so. Oro has mastery of his own body. He can make a second body in seconds or reattach broken parts etc

True, but simply using this second body hint hint substitution Jutsu. Isn't going to allow him to state tanking attacks. If Aang starts slicing then yeah it'd help to reattach pieces. But the question here is how long will that last?

Also that wouldn't help him if his oxygen is being bended out of his body. Hell he'll drop to the ground once this happens. The moment there's no oxygen in the brain he's fuck'd as he'll be a sleep within 20 secs tops.

Again true, but It takes Oro less than 10 seconds to recreate a second body. It's true he can't keep doing this over and over but I'm confident he could end it before that limit was reached. He has such variety that I can see it. Summoning Manda for instance who would be nigh impossible for them to bring down given that even C0 didn't kill him immediately. Among other techniques.

. As for the 4 tails, a wave of his hand does the trick.
I'm sure Aang or Korra would be fine after that.

I am sure they would be find with that too. Hell even Korra dealt with a bigger amount of force.

Note, a shockwave can be dealt with using a good air blast. Which oh look Aang is a master air bender who just so happens to be in Avatar State.

The battle must go on.

Touche. But the effort required is completely different than simply hitting the ground. This argument still applies for attacks beyond that level of casualness. The Biju dama for instance.

Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Yhwach vs Hashirama Senju

@luthluth said:

@taichokage: Depending on Yhwach, Ichigo and The Soul Kings showings Bleach could become and remain the strongest.

I have been betting on that from the start! I was a Bleach fanboy back in the day. Now One Piece is my favorite ofthe big 3 BUT, it is currently the weakest. My money is still on Bleach EOS being the strongest. GeneralVan and myself have been going back and forth on this for years.

Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Majin Buu Vs Kirby

Yup. I was wrong.

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Battles » Ichibei vs Blackbeard

Blackbeard is a tank. The issue is that everything from Ichibei save the Pimp Smacks are hax in nature.

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