taichokage (Level 20)

Been handicapped with the wiki lately. My library card hasn't worked twice within the last week and the computer is just not quite ready. Might get something in today though. Hopefully the card works.
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Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

Modern Thor isn't that weak. I'm not even sure he's weaker than classic. Maybe on a feat basis but in total I don't think so. I think I can find feats of him time traveling (note he lost this ability during classic times but has it in modern), smashing Galactus's head (he harmed Galactus before in classic time but never to this extent) saving Rulk from a black hole, and traveling mfl all in the modern era.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

I'll accept that Goku could be that strong. I always believed he could destroy planets with strength anyway, it's not my intent to disagree. I actually agree that he can, but what I'm saying is that it doesn't exceed Thor's greatest feats of strength. Uru ore is even more durable than adamantium and as I said earlier, just a chunk the size of mjolnir could contain enough power to destroy an entire galaxy and yet Thor has crushed this same material in his bare hand and broken it on more than one occasion. Then there's the dimensional rift punch he did with Hercules. I'll add that he's stalemated Hercules on multiple occasions (Hercules being arguably Thor's greatest friendly rival) and Hercules held up the heavens once. Thor pulled the Yggdrasil tree the size of the solar system and so on. Goku's best feats don't compare to most of these as impressive as they are.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

Thor has harmed Mikaboshi who's stronger than either of them as well as Phoenix who is also stronger than Galactus. It's so common It doesn't look like PIS to me. It's not to say that Thor is stronger than these individuals but he is immensely powerful and was stated to be the strongest marvel hero that resided on earth. He is the next in line to be the Skyfather of Asgard and has filled in the role before at times surpassing his father in power. As for the planet feat of Goku, that science is a bit flawed. 10x earth gravity does not necessarily = 10x the mass. The moon for instance has 1.25 percent the mass of the earth approximately or 1/81 the mass but has a whopping 1/6 the gravity. Also it is known that the Kai can manipulate gravity or at least weight. King Kai probably makes it that way. A planet of such size defies normal physics anyway.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Storm vs Enel

Even if she were immune to Enel's lightning, he is still more than capable of blitzing her and dealing with her physically.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

But he still has the power of classic Thor. I was just trying to get more recent feats. We don't tend to negate DBZ feats just because of much inconsistency. But where do you figure Goku can do that 10x over? The "planet" he put a whole through was even smaller than Thor's. I know we could assume its a lot more massive than its apparent size would lead to believe, but we can't assume it's more or less massive than the one Thor broke. As for Thor getting tagged by street levelers, sometimes it's PIS, but it's not like he's threatened by these individuals and doesn't need to take them seriously. It's even officially stated that Thor nearly always holds back even in serious fights because of the ease he could kill or destroy the planet. This guy has harmed Galactus on more than one occasion and he channeled so much of his own energy into mjolnir once that it shattered, even though it once absorbed enough power to destroy the galaxy.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

That certainly matters. Speed is equal, even though I can find feats of Thor swinging mjolnir at twice the speed of light and striking speedsters ranging from hypersonic to mfl. But speed is equal in this scenario so that doesn't matter much here. But Thor trumps him in strength and durability immensely. And yes striking strength too. Let me get 2 more feats. The first feat, he and and Hercules clash fists and actually close a dimensional rift. And the second feat Thor destroys a small planet with a single strike through poor Beta Ray Bill. http://m388.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength20Avengers100.jpg.html?o=155 http://www.comicvine.com/thor/4005-2268/forums/has-thor-ever-destroyed-a-planet-562815/
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Storm vs Enel

I thought this happened already. But Enel easily. Storm can't touch him but he'd have an easy time doing the same.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

No he's all of them. I'd say the Quincy are distantly related to the Norse given that the Norse are the ancestry of the Germans. Juha Bach is Odin's 3rd son who was a bad apple just like Loki and he tried to overthrow him 2000 years ago and failed and was banished to Earth. After 1000 years he revived, only to be anticipated by the Gotei because Odin told the Spirit King who in turn informed the Royal Gurd down to the Head Captain and he failed again, but before he fell into slumber the second time, one of his children happened to bump into a random Kryptonian and they had a child which was distantly related to the Kurosaki lineage. Years later Ichigo was born. In short he is part Shinigami/Hollow/Quincy/Human/Fullbring/Asguardian and Kryptonian. I forgot to put in the part where his Saiyan and Cybertronian heritage come from.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

Here. I tried looking for feats especially recent and not classic but to avoid speculation that he may or may not be able to do the same things now. Even though a notable amount of Thor's fears come from classic time, he has many in the last 5-15 years which pretty much all these feats come from. Among the many feats you'll find feats that superscede Goku in several areas such as strength (held a broken moon together with strength alone and welded it back together with his lightning) and a durability feat of tanking a supernova, as well as defeating Hulk on at least 3 occasions including one shotting him. http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/current-thor-respect-thread-1480280/
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Shunsui vs Sensui

I don't think that would work. Shunsui has full knowledge as well and could easily use kageoni or takaoni to deal with Sensui's balls (no pun intended. Lol!) while in the meantime he also has impressive speed and a flight advantage. Remember A class doesn't mean a whole lot. Shinobu Sensui was low end S class and he was still able to easily deal with 3 characters of A class caliber at once. It's some middle ground between Shinobi Senseui at low end S class and Toguro at High end B class.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

No when referring to endurance we mean, literally stamina. How much fatigue or pain a character can handle. Endurance is not the animate version of durability. Also I'm going to be posting some Thor feat links soon.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Shunsui vs Sensui

Oh ok. I was going to say this looked pretty one sided but not now. I'd actually say Shunthis takes this on the grounds of his hax shikai.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

I've been reading Thor since I was 4. Yes I do read comics. The reason he beats Goku is that he trumps him in every category. Be it strength, durability, stamina, EP, versatility probably speed too. Name any Goku feat in those categories and I can probably top it with a Thor feat.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Which HST Level (or More) Team could stand up to this team?

I didn't use Giorno because he can solo this match.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Which HST Level (or More) Team could stand up to this team?

Maybe it should be what team can take these guys out not which HST level team because you can combine the entire HST and they couldn't do it. I know it says stronger characters can be used but they in fact, must be used. HST characters for the most part would be useless.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Current Black Star Vs Yoruichi Shinoin

Just re-caught up with Soul Eater. Wow, what a time to do so. I'd have to say that Yoruichi is probably the stronger of the two, but I can't deny that off of showings alone, I think Black Star is more impressive:
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Superman team vs Z fighter & viliian

Oh well. I used to make threads like this years ago. Welcome to animevice, where making spite threads is common for a newbie :)
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Which HST Level (or More) Team could stand up to this team?

Skrull in the middle could solo the HST, so no team from them would matter. It has to be a team with most members above Z level like Seiya or Jojo. A team of 5 main characters from Jump that would likely win Seiya, Dark Schneider, Enrico Pucci, Goku, Toriko.
Post by taichokage (12,443 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Gag Fight - Marvel Avengers VS Shonen-J Alliance

Perhaps. Bill could be stronger, but If that's the case its always been that way. I mean, Bill beat Thor before he actually got the powers. He was the better fighter from the beginning. And admittedly when Thor beat him at least twice that I can recall, Bill was not out to kill him whereas Thor did not hold back but this was back from even the classic days. Bill was probably always tougher than Thor.
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