taichokage (Level 20)

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Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » bills vs thor

He is ftl. He just doesn always utilize his speed. Thor has travelled at thousands of times faster than light in hyperspace. His mjolnir swings have been in canon gone at least twice the speed of light as well. And Thor has tanked Supernova explosions and severely injured beings that are universal+ in power such as Galactus and Phoenix and to a lesser extent Amatsu Mikaboshi. He summoned the dead and brought himself back to life. He's stalemated and outright beaten the likes of Hulk and Hercules in pure physical strength and shattered planets with physical strength alone on panel and stars off panel. All these feats are modern and/or post classic where he is written to hold back and is portrayed weaker. His classic feats are in general even better. He put a barrier around 1/5 of the Universe, pulled the yggdrasil tree which spanned the solar system, way back in the day he collided fists with Herxules and broke a dimensional wall, froze time, absorbed the power to destroy a galaxy in mjolnir his hammer, and beaten the likes of the Silver Surfer on 2 occasions and had the upper hand a third time and so on.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Old man yamamoto(bleach) runs a toriko gauntlet

Even if he blitzed none of his attacks are quite that fast. Satan hair one shots but it isn't instant, and spatula and such are not instant either. Assuming Yamamoto did get the flames up first what could Sani do at that point? If blitzing is the only basis I don't really see it yet. Sure he's faster but he isn't Toriko. His attacks are stronger but mostly take time.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Toriko vs Akira Kongou

Oh wow. Someone else read that series. I was going to make this fight but I didnt think that many people read it and i still think its a bit unfair. Akira Kongou was ridiculous in the final fight. He would take it in my opinion as of right now. Toriko will likely surpass him in the end though.
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Battles » Old man yamamoto(bleach) runs a toriko gauntlet

But he can't do anything about the heat. What can he do against flames? He has some resistance to it but Starjun's flames were hot to him and they are not as hot as Yamamoto's. He's more powerful sure but the fire is a problem.
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Battles » Starkk vs The Captains

Probably. Yamamoto obviously and according to Shunsui Unohana is stronger than him. And I'd have a hard time believing he would beat the other ex senior Captains Isshin, Yoruichi and Urahara. I don't think Shunsui could beat them either unless his bankai has hax correlating to his shikai.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Baraggan vs The Captains

By feats Baraggan would beat them all. He probably can't take the strongest senior Captains like Isshin and Yoruichi but by feats shown he could. Except maybe Zaraki. If he is indeed the strongest Captain now then I can't see Baraggan beating him. But more or less the same as Starrk except he can probably beat Shunsui too without bankai because abilities like irooni are useless here and kageoni might not work due to the time abilities.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Starkk vs The Captains

That is true as well. Starrk was too laid back. Shunsui was as well but after Wonderweiss took down Ukitake he became serious. It probably could go either way but if push came to shove Shunsui could have used bankai which not only did Ukitake tell him not to do it because Shunsui wanted to (acknowledging Startk's power right there) but Kubo hinted that it could've been strong enough to take out Aizen before the Hougyoku. Shunsui was essentially holding back to a great extent as well because he didn't want to use his bankai the pinnacle of Shinigami power around his allies so he was hell bent on doing every hax technique and dirty strategy to beat Starrk which he ultimately did, whereas Starfk was using full power but was too lazy.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Starkk vs The Captains

Ok maybe that's true but even were that the case a cero didn't put him down. I'm also not saying that Head Captain level let alone War potential level characters couldn't bypass Shunsui to an extent. I mean Aizen could bring espada to rheir knees with reiatsu alone and beat half the Captains at once BEFORE he even gained the Hougyoku power. However Startk is on neither level. They were near equal. He shouldn't be able to and indeed didn't shown the power to bypass Shunsui's abilities.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Old man yamamoto(bleach) runs a toriko gauntlet

Psh! Joa would beat the hell out of Yamamoto. I'm also a bit biased because in his short time, Joa is becoming one of my favorite villains. But bias or no the difference is clear. You're right about Chin too. I mean he did casually scoop up a 5000 meter mountain. Still Setsuno is probably above the 0th boot ope members outside Ichiryuu of course. Based off of Kosairou and Kuriboh at least.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Sensui vs Bleach-verse

No verse battles are allowed and no Sensui can't beat the entire Bleach world. There's far to many abilities for him to counter at once. And indeed there could be those stronger.Now it's come out that Ichigo never used more than a fraction of his power at any point and that he could be too powerful to exist in the human world and he's only 1 of 5 War Potentials and there's the Royal Guard and Spirit King who holds the worlds in balance.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Starkk vs The Captains

That wasnt Kageoni or Irooni It was a mere attack. It binds Starrk to no rules and is anything but a sneak attack. Kageoni literally attacks you with your own shadow and allows Shunsui to become shadow itself. And Irooni only allows user and victim to damage what ever color they call. Starrk was at a huge disadvantage. He couldn't afford to use flashy attacks when that's the perfect opening for Shunsui to attack him with or hide in shadow nor could he damage him during Irooni unless he played Shunsui's game. Starrk was in a ridiculous predicament where his attacks ranged from dangerous to use to down right useless and still he heavily wounded Shunsui. A testament to his superior skill and raw power. He just couldn't win because Shunsui literally has the most hax shikai to date with the possible exception of Kyouka Suigetsu.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Starkk vs The Captains

And that attack did almost nothing. Starrk jokingly just said ow. The vizards also aren't quite in Shunsui's league. And the very basis of kageoni is a sneak attack anyway. It would have made no difference if Shunsui had been standing right in front of Starrk because the technique attacks from behind outside the victim's field of vision. Also nobody said Starrk couldn't use those techniques. He was overwhelmed by the hax of Shunsui given that he could not so much as scratch Shunsui unless he played Shunsui's game so he was forced to fight how Shunsui wanted him to. Shunsui gave him 2 or 3 more wounds before he even went down, the last one being a deep torso gash that was even more damaging than a normal attack in the same manner because his color game intensifies the damage further than normal if done right. Starrk is more powerful than Shunsui in pure stats. This was shown over and over that although they were close, Starrk was the superior combatant, but Shunsui didn't win because of his skill, Shunsui won because of immense hax.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Old man yamamoto(bleach) runs a toriko gauntlet

8-15 he would lose with the possible exception of Buranchi. 7 is either way. Depends on who does what first but Toriko has the edge. Coco is similar. We don't know his current set of abilities but he's a bit badly suited for Yamamoto who could burn all his attacks before reaching him. Sunny is also disadvantaged even though he is more powerful because his hair wouldnt be able to handle the flames. But he definitely beats the first 4 at least. Also for the record, Sani isn't the Weakest King and Setsuno is above Chinchinchin.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » SSJ4 Goku Vs Ichiryuu, Jirou, Midora, Joa, Starjun, Setsuno

PIS though and GT has a fair amount. The samebusted of in ssj4 form busted a dimension and was punching people to other countries as well as creating the universal Spirit bomb. He might be poorly written but he is strong. On top of that though we've seen none of team Toriko in a serious all out fight except Starjun and that was pre awakening of his gourmet genetic cells. I guess we'll have to wait but it's safe I'd say to side with Goku for the time being.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Madara Vs Kenpachi and Byakuya

Still too early. When we see Zaraki's current power this may or may not even be a fight whether he's stronger or weaker.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Rematch: Black Star Vs Kishin

It would be a fight but black Star couldn't beat Asura by himself. In the end their attacks were essentially useless and they didn't actually beat him, Crona did by sacrificing him(her)self. It would most certainly be a fight though. Asura did acknowledge Black Star as the strongest in the world after himself.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Madara and Aizen Vs The Three Admirals

Well as usual Kizaru is the biggest problem. I also don't see Amaterasu working on him. In order to beat him it would be most convenient if they went with the illusion/hypnosis route.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » bills vs thor

Thor. Current essentially is classic to begin with just poorly written.
Post by taichokage (12,899 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Battles » Starkk vs The Captains

He did that after Starrk did the same thing to him. All is fair in war. After they essentially cheap shot each other, they were both still in fighting condition and they kept fighting a while after. Starrk lost plain and simple and without Shunsui going bankai or using kido.
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