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Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Ryuko Matoi (Kill la Kill) vs Ichigo Kurosaki (Bleach)

@luthluth said:

@GeneralVan: Vizard Ichigo? Isn't that a stretch? Ichigo at that point had city level + durability, in shikai he was able to make pretty impressive slashes, hes battle with Grimmjow made shockwaves that could be felt several miles away also hes retsu distorted space and displayed impressive stamina during hes battle with Ulquiorra.

Only FKT arc Vizard Ichigo is city+. Before that he is probably small city level.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Hiei and Kurama Vs Pain and Itachi

@Nefarious said:

Hiei and Kurama blitz.

Actually it won't be that easy to blitz. Itachi reacted to lightning, and Pain reacted to a Mach 50 FRS while fatigued.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Renji and Ichigo VS Rikudo Madara

Current Ichigo is featless, so we can't really say.

He beats Renji though.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Hiei and Kurama Vs Pain and Itachi

HIei and Kurama take it with high diff.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Soi Fon vs Base Ulquiorra

Soifon wins against Base Ulq, solely due to her speed. Mid diff IMO.

But once Ulquiorra releases its over for her.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Mystic Gohan vs Janemba

I think Goku is TOEI-haxed. This is the reason we also see kid Buu is stated to be the strongest buu in the anime, and SSJ1 Goku beat Mystic Gohan

Movie 13 Goku > Hirudegarn > Mystic Gohan > Super buu=Janemba > Movie 12 Goku > canon Goku.

@taichokage said:

Super Buu defeated Gohan, mostly due to the latter's cockiness but nonetheless.

That was Gotenks Buu. Janemba should be around normal Super buu's level, or slightly higher.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra Cifer

@luthluth: Actually even the fodder hollow in chapter 1 could punch through steel.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra Cifer

@Whats_out_the_bag said:

@supernova7005: That calc smelled like bull shit. Then I looked at it. They were assuming shit too much, with no real scaling. Then it seems to be they scaled from the anime rather than manga.

But doesn't matter, next time I see this I'll have a proper calc for you.

If you're more comfortable with pixel-scaling rather than eyeballing/visuals, I can do that as well:

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/32169/726811-bleach_2405131.jpg

Since his length still comes around 49-50m, the previous calc I provided was quite accurate as he got a similar result.

Now about the 2nd point what strength feat did Ulquiorra do again?

He effortlessly overpowered and thrashed Bankai/Masked Ichigo, who while weakened could block Nnoitra's attacks, who was equal to Zaraki, who overpowered Komamura.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra Cifer

@Whats_out_the_bag said:

@supernova7005:

First, where did you get that he's around 10,000 tons?

Second, Komamura is one of the more physically strongest captains. He's not the most powerful, but are you trying to power scale his strengths to others?

Here is the math: http://www.bleachanime.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3219539&postcount=16 (click on the spoiler)

2nd point, because Kenpachi casually blocked Komamura's strikes in the SS arc. So in physical strength, Ulquiorra >> Nnoitra = Kenpachi >> Komamura.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra Cifer

@ImDictatorBowDown: Ulquiorra in his first release itself was not even scratched by masked Bankai Ichigo's strongest attacks, who should be well above mid tier captains like Byakuya. R2 gives him another huge boost.

But yeah, I do agree that Luffy can harm Ulq since he was able to wreck half an Island sized ship with EGG.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Black Bolt vs Midora

@Low: Oh. I thought Midora was the strongest of the 3 disciples.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra Cifer

@ImDictatorBowDown: What about this guy: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090520101040/bleach/en/images/8/83/Powwsrelease.jpg

This guy weighs around 10,000 tons, and Base Komamura (one of the weakest captains) was able to hurl him across multiple city blocks.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra Cifer

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

00 feet is roughly the size of the colossal titan to put things in perspective, only things that tall in Bleach shown so far would be Gillians and Yammy

Remember this guy: http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120310153558/bleach/en/images/0/0e/SUPERCHUNkY.jpg

He uses Gillian faces as toenails: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100713143410/bleach/en/images/thumb/8/80/Fura_Spits_Menos_Grande.png/800px-Fura_Spits_Menos_Grande.png

A vizard vice captain was able to completely destroy it.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Karasu vs Bambietta

What feats does base Bambietta have? We've never seen her do anything in base, so:

1. Karasu

2. Bambietta

3. Karasu

4. Bambietta

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Black Bolt vs Midora

@Kobra678: But the planet is not a living thing for him to paralyse. It has no pressure points or anything. It looks like his fist had enough force to stop its movement for a second.

Midora maybe knocked, but don't you think he'll survive getting hit by it?

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » dante vs clare

@Haiken: This is the guy who made that calc: http://lounge.moviecodec.com/scripts/userinfo.php?uid=77455. Just create an account on the forum and send him a PM.

Yeah I see that most fictions are not scientific, but in this case the author wanted to show us that Dante was moving so fast that his body catches fire. The main idea behind the scene was to show Dante was moving extremely fast. Its basically the purpose for which the scene was shown.

Clothing damage etc. is only a trope. Even in DBZ for example, we don't see clothes getting destroyed though they are hit with planet busters.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Mystic Gohan vs Janemba

@gokugx said:

Prove that SSJ1 Gotenks is stronger than Goku SSJ3.

> Goku was confident that SSJ1 Gotenks was strong enough to beat Fat Buu, who Majin Vegeta was no match for.

Which means SSJ1 Gotenks (pre-HTC) >>> SSJ2 Goku.

> Chapter: 489 P11- Piccolo: “He-he really is different…! He really has greatly powered up…! Th-this just might…!”

Chapter: 490 P5, Piccolo: “Oh! So he can become a Super Saiyan even after Fusion?!”

Piccolo didn't know Gotenks could go SSJ after fusion. This implies Base Gotenks (Post-HTC) > SSJ Gotenks (Pre-HTC) >>>> SSJ2 Goku.

If Base Gotenks can beat SSJ2 Goku, then SSJ Gotenks can surely beat SSJ3 Goku

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Current Monkey D. Luffy Vs Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra Cifer

@Saladking said:

Can someone show me a scan of Ulq's largest damage because I only watched the fight in the anime and I'm just simply curious to how powerful he really was in the manga.

Here. Its an Island level attack.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » dante vs clare

@Haiken said:

how did you compute his speed? i don't think dante is double digit mach..

Anyway, clare kept up with Mira who has about double digit mach movespeed.. clare might even be triple digit in attack speed and reaction..

It was based on Dante's sword and body catching fire while he was running down the tower

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-general/devil-may-cry-vs-discussion-thread-how-strong-they-are-reasons-etc-310643/ (the calc is there in the first post, open the spoiler)

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Black Bolt vs Midora

@Kobra678 said:

@supernova7005: I highly doubt Midora has multi-planet durability. Jirou's planet knock wasn't casual either, a casual knock would be what he did against one of the Nitro. The technique he used was Grand Knocking, which is probably one of his strongest abilities if not his best. Also, knocking =/= physical strength.

Jirou stopped the planet with his knock. Ofcourse that's physical strength because he is using his fist to stop the planet's rotation.

Midora should be strong enough not to get one-shotted by Jirou.

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