@YoungChief: If DBZ characters like Whis and Bills are indeed FTL as you say they are, then top tiers like Buuhan and Vegito must be as well if anything. Actually in battle Shunkan Ido worked better like when Vegito used it against Buuhan. I merely pointed out that speed while racing is much different then speed during battle. The reason for the dislike of Toei is simple, it contradicts almost everything Toriyama puts or and fans get the wrong idea in which fanboy's are born. Ex: Toei has SSJ3 Goku > Ultimate Gohan but manga says opposite, that kind of stuff makes debating more annoying with certain folks. You know what what you said it true, Vegito didn't hang around long enough to demonstrate his true power. But I think showing his domination in SSJ meant something at least. But I am not going into a hypothetical argument of SSJ2 Vegito and all that because he is featless. Maybe Bills can be stronger as you guys say, I was just throwing in my two cents.
@Kurohige: I guess that works but then again Vegito was Goku and Vegeta's power so of course he can't reach it lol. Yeah I get you on the Frieza thing but the reason why Bills and crew get all this love is because of the solar system busting and all this was stated. But Vegito has no such feats or claims made for him he was just introduced as the two strongest warriors joined and a badass was born.
And no I am not saying Bills feats aren't as impressive because the same argument can be said about Vegito because he only lasted about 2 chapters. It is what it is man I was just trying to defend and make a case for my favorite DBZ character.
Yeah that's my point. Z is not a manga where the majority of power hierarchies are displayed through feats. You get a few feats and powerscale from there. By feats outside of actual combat, Frieza is the most impressive canon Z character because he busted a planet with a finger at less than 0.5% power. Only a few other planets were destroyed and none of it was as impressive as that. Even Majin Buu who was exponentially more powerful (stated to be 1000 times as powerful) still did not destroy the earth with as much apparent ease as Frieza at less than half a percent did to planet Vegeta. By actual feats Vegito hasn't many himself but you could argue they appear more impressive than Bills. But that means little in Z. Master Roshi has better destructive feats than Goku even though the latter is literally tens of millions of times more powerful.
Just part of the many inconsistencies of DBZ I suppose. As for the feats, I can agree that matters little in Z but hey its whatever.