@Masterofdeath: The zero system could help yeah. I doubt he could beat the likes of Amuro and Kamille with it though. Even Banagher is a threat thanks to his newtype powers. The precog that they have will make the battle much more difficult for people like Heero. The zero system only helps him became more tactically efficient hence I say he can beat Kira. As for Setsuna and his innovator abilities, they sound pretty close to newtypes but I can't really gauge his abilities until I see them.