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Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Hashirama and Madara vs the Bijuu

@nishi99 said:

Team Madara both rounds.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@taichokage: @UltimateHero0406: @nishi99: @TheNeutralOne: @Kurohige: Thanks for sharing your votes guys.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@Theorder14: @DBZ_universe: @othus12: @Dream: Thanks for the votes my good friends!

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@CerusSerenade said:

@SpeedForceSpider: Says the one that tried to put in Goku during Namek and a number of JJBA characters which are famous for being broken as hell.

Moot point regardless, Ryougi has killed and manipulated the concept of distance between herself and her opponet, and once Lelouch starts taking control of the enemy team it probably won't matter what Batman has prepped for, he can't solo 9 characters which can blitz him.

Okay Cerus since you're so oblivious to everything here this is the reality, no one complained about Goku but you. People even tried to tell you Namek Goku was okay as long as it wasn't SSJ. The JJBA character I picked isn't that broken at all tbh, ask fellow user Kurohige. His stands abilities are mostly based on the users creativity. If Ryougi can do half the stuff you claim she can then you're being a hypocrite buddy.

If you are going to sit here and repeat the same scenario over and over again without enough proof, then we need to end this debate right now and call other users to put this to a vote.

And anyone else can you vote for our battle please?

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

Where are you getting a making stuff out of dirt? You're out of your mind on that one. Laugh all you want about Batman wank or whatever but you wank Nasu characters harder than most fans I know( Fehafare and Dream). Show me Shiki being able to rewrite the concept of speed because that is a high level of reality warping and goes against your oh so important rules you love to bring up on me. And then you have proven me wrong. You can't claim your way through a debate with me pal.
Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Luffy's New Team Vs Marineford

LOL Luffy's squad saves Ace and can solo the verse if they want.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@CerusSerenade said:

@SpeedForceSpider: Possibly relativistic should have thrown him out then.

If I use the anime version instead will you stop whining about him? You have someone who can so called, destroy the reality with void and my character has to be thrown out? Pretty desperate to win I see Cerus.

Ryougi Shiki isn't superhuman? She blitzed a casual bullet timer AFTER the bullets were shot and tanked a point blank blast from the magus that tried to imprison her in a different dimension. Void mode lets her teleport and rewrite reality, she's WAY above superhuman.

Oh a bullet timer? My team is in trouble now.

Lelouch is enchanted by Caster to move at hypersonic speeds, and he's a tactical genius, do you really think that Batman isn't going to be challenged?

Not really, with the Flash robo I have more options in regards to speed and are you arguing Lelouch is on Batman's level of genius?

So you're saying Batman can take all his suits from earth, but Ryougi can't use Akasha's knowledge of Earth to do her own prep with Lelouch? Here I thought you were the one claiming double-standard.

The point was he built the suits, with you know, prep time. I can claim what I want as long as I can back it up.

Regardless, any character that tries to blitz in before the rest of your team will die to Gae Bolg since it reverses causality, meaning it doesn't matter if they try to block or reflect it, it's a physical impossibility. That combined with Ryougi's precognition will let her predict Kazuma's attempt to kill everyone and promptly react.

Really? Don't count on it Lancer is heavily outmatched in terms of speed. Even if he manages to hit one of them, Josuke can heal them instantly. Lancer gets blitzed at only mach 14, very badly. Precognition actually doesn't help against someone much faster if you do not have comparable reflexes. From what I know so far, your folks aren't that fast.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » USSJ Trunks Vs SSJ Goku, SSJ Vegeta, SSJ Gohan And Piccolo

He gets killed. Not only does he have a speed disadvantage, but a ki consumption one as well FPSSJ > USSJ. Trunks can possibly beat Vegeta and Piccolo, but Goku or Gohan solo him.

Remember when Goku went full power against Cell, Trunks crapped trunks and said Goku was on a whole new level or something.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@CerusSerenade: Hold on a second here, in another debate we talked about Gaia in Nasuverse is different from a neutral one. How can you assume the same properties work here? Having knowledge still doesn't save Shiki and Lelouch from dying anyway. They are below superhuman in stats.

For the last time read before you type, Kazuma does not move at FTL speeds. Depending on the source he is massively hypersonic, possibly relativistic.

Heracles still dies from my team you cannot save him no matter how many lives. If you're trying to argue he can survive 12 different attacks from them then you have already lost the debate.

Argue my characters speed and defense all you want, but the lack of scans and videos on your part is making your argument lose value.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Sephiroth vs Mihawk

Sephiroth both rounds.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@Theorder14 said:

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Batman can find a way to beat Berserker like he did the Justice League by utilizing different methods of attack, traps, and whatnot. With prep its easy to find a way to defeat Superman level characters for Batman. Hercules is nowhere near that 9 lives and all.

with 3 hours prep, i highly doubt Batman will steal even one life of Berserker. His noble phantasm is alot more complicated than you think. The God Hand is bestowed by the gods themselves to the heroic spirit Heracles and must be killed 12 times in order to completely eliminate him. well, u can just google it.

Just saying :D

So Batman can put down Superman level characters and not this guy. Good breakdown buddy. I have seen FSN and its nowhere near the hype you guys give it.

Just saying :D

Edit: It says he cannot be harmed by anything below an A rank Noble Phantasm. So you're telling me this is complicated? In what way exactly? My team is full of heavy hitters.

So you highly doubt Batman can do with 3 hours prep huh? Funny considering he has done more with way less time.

Using Superman suit
Using Superman suit
Built a machine to fight an amped Clayface
Built a machine to fight an amped Clayface
Pwning monsters with Insider Suit
Pwning monsters with Insider Suit
Created a Robo JLA
Created a Robo JLA

I'm sure you get the picture by now.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@CerusSerenade: I do not believe Shiki can destroy reality. Obviously overhype and hyperbole unless you can prove me wrong of course. Even then, you're obviously breaking the rules of the tourney after you gave me a speech about rules. And it was already decided Lelouch would get killed before anyone else would. He isn't a fighter even if you boost his stats. Anyway, Batman can find a way to beat Berserker like he did the Justice League by utilizing different methods of attack, traps, and whatnot. With prep its easy to find a way to defeat Superman level characters for Batman. Hercules is nowhere near that 9 lives and all.

Kazuma is a powerhouse, I doubt anyone on your team would tank a country busting attack from him. He can also adapt and defend to almost any attack thanks to his alter like when he was attacked by a beam of sunlight.

Speed isn't debatable because Kazuma was able to fly from Earth to space in a few seconds and destroy an army of UFO's. Calc speeds of mach 557.

Lelouch isn't reacting to this guy, he and Caster get killed so fast it isn't even funny.


Say what you want about Goku using Kaioken, but at this point he shouldn't even need it against your team.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » team fire vs ice

Either Hyoga solos or Iceman solos.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@CerusSerenade: Here's the problem which your hypothesis. You are taking everything into consideration what your team can do, and completely forgetting mine has the same potential if not greater in terms of winning.

Goku himself hasn't shown resistance to TP sure, but Vegeta has shown resistance to Babadi's mind commands and if I am not mistaken, is the same shit(arguably more powerful). Also my team has prep so all in all, knowledge of the other teams abilities thanks to my boy Batman. Goku will in fact use Kaioken off the bat if it deems necessary for victory.\

Also regarding Caster's enchantment, what makes you think he will get as fast as these cats?

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15
Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Taichokage's Team vs DBZ_universe (me) Team

@DBZ_universe: @taichokage: Good job guys.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@DBZ_universe said:

SpeedForceSpider FTW

Thanks bro.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@CerusSerenade: Okay show me then because I don't recall Lelouch ever doing it so casually since the first episode because that isn't IC. Doesn't matter anyway given he still dies because even if he dies as you say, it works only on one enemy at a time. He gets blitzed.

Okay so BS me off the top with Ryougi, great.

The video shows her killing magic great, stop dodging my question on how it stopping other energies such as Chi and psychic?

@GeneralVan said:

@Kurohige: And Lelouch's Geass in a NLF. I doubt it would work on someone as powerful as Goku.

Good point no one can assume it can work on anyone here just because it works on regular humans.

I also noticed my team has an abundance of fliers which I am using to my advantage.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

@CerusSerenade: Yeah whatever dude, I didn't care to read all the pages of the tourney set up big deal. When has Lelouch ever told some one to die IC? And now Ryougi can do all this crap in void mode off the bat as well? You're killing the debate for me with all these double standards. I also cannot read what they are saying so how does this help you in any way? The only person on my team who uses magic is Shazam, so Ryougi is looking utterly useless against opponents with psychic abilities and chi.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,938 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » CerusSerenade's Team vs Speedforcespider's team

So how do you assume because morals are on for Goku so he won't use Kaioken off the bat? During this saga in particularly he used it against Ginyu and Frieza. Not to mention in the previous arc he spammed it.
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