What is with everyone underrating Pein these days?
I know right? Almost everyone here on this site and a few others do.
@SpeedForceSpider: Ah. Thanks. So even with out them, they are still above HST level right?
Indeed not including the first two arcs tho. They were pretty piss weak and could only go mach 1-5(Talking about Bronze and Silver Saints here. Gold saints one shots any day). By the third they could barely reach the speed of light as Bronzes(thanks to 7th sense) which is still enough to beat the HST.
@ImDictatorBowDown: I find it funny how you're the first person I've seen to ever question him transforming the first time. I also find it funny how you literally have no proof to claim otherwise. Why does the movie need to state he was restrained or not when the proof is right there? How the transformation itself occurred is proof or they would have felt that same energy back then.
Broly obviously needed a push or to gain a certain amount of rage to do it. And how can you question me with only claims? At least put an effort to prove to me he was LSSJ when he did it or became it sometime before. Because everyone else here agrees he was RSSJ.
Another point is, how would have Paragus controlled him when he became a LSSJ? Because when he was a RSSJ and powering up with rage against Goku, he no longer had control and the device broke showing that's the first time or he would obviously have been prepared for that transformation. Point is he had a hard time controlling SSJ Broly and he can't hope to stop LSSJ.
Just face the facts the proof is there.
@SpeedForceSpider: teppei is a boss
lol yep, he is my second favorite character after Coco of course.
@SpeedForceSpider: How do you know he was in a restricted state? The aliens of the planet seemed to remember the one who oppress them as being much bigger than Paragus, and when he intially transformed into the LGSS Paragus didn't at all seem surprised by his appearance
What do you mean how do I know? The first time he went LJSSJ was against Goku and co. of course. And why would Paragus be surprised and he had him restricted the whole time?
Of course his full power was to be expected. And Broly was already taller than Paragus initially as a RSSJ which is the only form they have seen. How could he have possibly came close to LSSJ while restrained?