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Battles » Oga Tatsumi Vs Jotaro Kujo (Read OP)

@Low said:

@SpeedForceSpider said:

@Low: I was clearly talking about the other part of your post.

Ever heard of the word "statements"? Yeah, I was making those. Jotaro gets thrown about with his stand supposedly fodderizing the likes of Tsuna. Without it, hes practically nothing, not like some of the more prominent shounen combos.

Dude use your head. I am asking the relevance of your statement. Ever heard of the word "relevance"? Yeah that's what I was pointing out. I don't give a damn about all that other stuff. He can beat Tsuna? So what, Oga clearly isn't Tsuna. Quit going off topic.

It doesn't matter what he is capable of doing without his power. Just like how Naruto how was practically fodder without Kurama throughout the entire series.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Oga Tatsumi Vs Jotaro Kujo (Read OP)

@Low: I was clearly talking about the other part of your post.

Jotaru beat a couple punks? Great. Oga beat an entire school of punks, singlehandedly. And thats pre beel.

What is the relevance of this is what I am asking?

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Oga Tatsumi Vs Jotaro Kujo (Read OP)

@Low: Ah yes that is great and all, but I did say Jotaro is basically featless and Oga stomps. Somehow, you managed to turn me referencing Jotaro fighting off screen delinquents as a decent feat. What relevance to my post does your reply hold?

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15
Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Four Beast Vs Oozaru Vegeta

Vegeta lmaostomps Four Beast.
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Battles » Yusuke Urameshi vs Naruto,Ichigo and Luffy gauntlet

Wow things have changed since and sadly, Naruto solos. Yusuke still soundly beats Ichigo and Luffy though.
Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Octopus Kong VS Zaraki Kenpachi

Interesting battle, hmmm leaning towards Kenpachi.
Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Oga Tatsumi Vs Jotaro Kujo (Read OP)

Jotaro is practically featless w/o Star Platinum. All he did was fight a few punks. Oga on the other hand has at least peak human stats to boot w/o Baby Beel. Oga stomps here.
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Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Zebra vs Gladiator

Gladiator stomps Zebra pretty badly. He has casual planet busting strikes.
Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15
Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Organization XIII Vs Joestar Family

The Joestar family for obvious reasons.

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Battles » Meruem Vs Luffy

@Low: I cannot believe you are actually arguing on whether Enel is lightning speed or not.

As for this battle; Luffy should win or does Meruem have comparable feats?

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Mirai Trunks vs Goten and Trunks

@DeathHero61 said:

You are saying goten and trunks are as strong based off showcases that cannot even be considered as solid proof of their power.

I am saying they are strong based on their showings against opponents with better feats which is decent actually. DBZ has never been all about feats anyway, just hype and character statements. They theoretically have a chance with the rules I have placed. But to claim Trunks is as strong as his ASSJ form in regular SSJ when Vegeta clearly needed ASSJ to face Semi Cell? That is baseless, ludicrous, and downright false. Not trying to be mean, but that isn't a very sound and reasonable argument.

I went based off shown power levels and on hand showcases within the series. You entire argument was a sparring session with gohan(who's power decreased and physical and mental skill deteriorated) and a fight with 18(who suggested herself that she was holding back and the fight itself is inconsistent.) Go freaking figure.

Power levels are invalid after the Frieza saga just pointing that out. If you're referring to "power scaling", then I can also scale based off of their ROSAT training which would make them stronger by far. My argument still holds up, because it was never explicitly stated Gohan's power has deteriorated. He has mastered the SSJ form for the last time man, how does one lose mastery? Even if he lost a bit of power, he is still wayyyy stronger than Mirai Trunks, Piccolo, and all the Androids. The Dabura fight should have told you that much.

he argument got pushed to so i really don't freaking see at all why you are turning this on me.

18 was more surprised than pressured when the boys went ssj, because her opponent was supposed to be a weak, pitiful human with no ability. Trunks and Goten are nowhere near Mirai Trunks nor Piccolo. Not without fusion. #18 and others were Holding Back during the tournament to keep from maiming the other contestants. (BTW she only got "pressured" during the anime version of their fight in the manga version she stomped them and they had to go super saiyan in order to at the very least compare, and when they shot a ki blast she was very well surprised at their power and decided she had to end the fight quickly. Probably because they were going to destroy the stadium at the rate they were going. So in the case that they are above 18 they wouldn't be that far above.)

So basically, FPSSJ Gohan has lost sooo much power that he leveled down to 18 and Piccolo now? Okay I mind's well just concede then right.

Trunks and Goten were going all out while 18 was keeping herself restrained. This is the truth. Unless you want to argue that Mr Popo is on the same level as a Super Saiyan for blocking hits from the boys on the Lookout, who both went SSJ against him.

The fight between 18 and the boys might as well be a gag feat.

Except they never went all out. 18 even shat her pants when Trunks fired off and energy blast and it missed her. And the Mr. Popo thing was to show how much they lacked control. You're now trying to downplay by saying they are weaker than Raditz who would destroy Popo?

I hardly see why this would be an outliner, but I won't bother to keep responding since you just claimed they are weaker than Saiyan Saga level characters.

I am done.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

General Discussion » Who is in your top 5 favorite comic/anime characters of all tim

Comics: Thor, Darkseid, Spiderman, Flash, and Shazam. Special mention Superboy/Superman Prime.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15
Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Tien vs Naruto

Current Naruto is too much for this Tien.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Mirai Trunks vs Goten and Trunks

@DeathHero61: Except Trunks never mastered SSJ neither did Vegeta, your entire argument is based on speculation and playing favorite. Then you go as far to post links to other websites which is against the forum rules. Then you some how managed to twist my words in your favor. I pointed out something and you failed to properly counter my argument. That looks like a long rant on why you believe Goten and Trunks are inferior rather than factual evidence on why Mirai Trunks wins.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Tsuna Vs Shana Vs Natsu Vs Ace

Tsuna would beat everyone here with no difficulty.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,803 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Battles » Tsuna Sawada vs Oga Tatsumi

Mismatch either way. Tsuna destroys Oga with the utmost ease.

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