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Battles » Counter My Character ( RE Make)

@AnimeDefender:

Namekian Frog

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Battles » Counter My Character ( RE Make)

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: Namek Saga Vegeta

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Battles » Counter My Character ( RE Make)

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: Saiyan Saga Vegeta

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Battles » Counter My Character ( RE Make)

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk:nah you see this is a magical special beam cannon with a will of it's own. And everyone knows SBC = Raditz weakness.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Counter My Character ( RE Make)

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk:

No just Special beam cannon.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Jirou Vs Namek Saga Goku

@taichokage said:

I know that. It's just that you said this earlier "> If planet A is larger than planet B, but has less gravitational force than planet B, planet B must be more massive, thus being more dense."

It still works with that since Uranus volume is also larger than earths. Uranus also doesn't scale linearly with the earth because it's mass and volume aren't proportional to each other. They don't multiply evenly because it's volume is multiplied more than it's mass. The rule is basically made with the assumption that more mass = more density, which is usually true. Mathematically it doesn't even contradict the rule, since it's 14.5x bigger and 14x the mass. It makes complete sense for it to be less dense and have less gravity. Basically if you multiplied earths volume by 14.5 and it's mass by 14 you'd get Uranus. And the end result is still the same, earth is still more dense than Uranus despite having less mass and volume.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Counter My Character ( RE Make)

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: Special beam Cannon

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Battles » Counter My Character ( RE Make)

@SMXLR8: Monkey D. Luffy

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Justice League vs Z Fighters vs Avengers (Post from vine)

@MarioRedfield said:

@solesamurai said:

@MarioRedfield said:

New 52 Martian Manhuner manhandled all the Justice League including Superman... he has a pretty good shot.

Not exactly that impressive considering 6/7 of the justice league got the nerf stick to the face quite hard. Only one that's had any impressive feats is supes.

I'm not really sure how they've all been that nerfed considering the only one I've seen it from is Green Lantern.

That flash has by far been the most useless member of JLA thus far which is funny considering pre-52 he was the most hax and one of the reasons the new-52 happened. Aquaman got a durability nerf, strength nerf, his TP isn't as good as well. Haven't seen anything from WW but i'd assume she got the nerf stick too. And supes seems to not have changed for the worse but rather got stronger. This is at least from my point of view, all of the their pre-52 counter parts save superman would beat them in a fight just based off feats. Especially flash.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Jirou Vs Namek Saga Goku

@taichokage said:

Both facts are actually incorrect. All you need is Uranus as a reference. The planet is 14 times as massive as earth, yet only has approximately 90% of Earth Gravity. And it's less dense at the same time.

Actually it isn't Uranus is both 14.5 times larger and has a mass of 14 times that of the earth, it's slightly lower density is due to that as well as it's gravity. It still follows the same formula except in this case Uranus has the larger mass yet smaller density and gravitational pull. it has 90% earths gravity due to it being 14 times more massive but 14.5 times larger. meaning it's size and mass don't multiple evenly so neither would the gravitational pull or density.

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Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Justice League vs Z Fighters vs Avengers (Post from vine)

@MarioRedfield said:

New 52 Martian Manhuner manhandled all the Justice League including Superman... he has a pretty good shot.

Not exactly that impressive considering 6/7 of the justice league got the nerf stick to the face quite hard. Only one that's had any impressive feats is supes.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Jirou Vs Namek Saga Goku

@taichokage said:

It is possible for a planet to be more dense than a star. Our planet is more dense than the sun by relative mass, but it is not possible for a planet to be more MASSIVE not dense than a star. By that logic, destroying the earth is more impressive because it is more dense. That is a tad exaggerated but true.

Density is what matters, not mass. mass is only important in order to calculate the density. when something is more dense it's harder to destroy. So yes, technically speaking it would be harder to destroy the earth if it is more dense than our sun. It's a common misconception that more mass = more durable thus harder to destroy. This logic doesn't hold up when getting into astrophysics since there are things much more dense than our sun that are many times over more dense. like White Dwarf stars for example, those are much much much more dense than a yellow star like our sun, but they are only about the size of our planet. And like wise they are much much much harder to destroy. Because they have all of the mass of the sun, with the volume of an earth sized planet. This is basically how something as massive as a neutron star can sit inside a city sized area.

Also it's important to note, this is fiction not everything makes 100% sense. Likewise this logic will work with this feat.

> The greater the amount of matter ( mass ) something has, the more gravitational force it will generate.

> Density = mass per unit of volume.

> If planet A is larger than planet B, but has less gravitational force than planet B, planet B must be more massive, thus being more dense.

And density does indeed directly equate to durability. Something more dense will be harder to destroy even if it isn't more massive.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Jirou Vs Namek Saga Goku

@taichokage said:

He didn't claim that at that time. Only after he was super perfect cell. And dense or not you're seeming to make it out to almost neutron star levels. Regardless a planet can't be as massive as a star. Not even a small one. It can be very dense but at the end of the day does not require anywhere near the power of a star buster to destroy it. Not saying it wasn't impressive but not as impressive as destroying a star.

I didn't say it was as massive, It surely was more dense however, physics don't lie. And it is quite possible for a planet to be more dense than a star. However Goku threw a star busting punch there regardless of if it's possible in our world or not. And it is possible.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Juubi Mode Obito Vs Final Ichigo, Genryūsai Yamamoto, Aizen

@5th said:

Are you serious? Atomic destruction, casually blitzing Hashirama and Tobirama, and last destroying a barrier that tanked an island busting Bijuu Bomb. His feats > anyone in Bleach

Yay for baseless hype!

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Jirou Vs Namek Saga Goku

@taichokage said:

It isn't that difficult to destroy. Imperfect Cell destroyed it.

He self destructed and even stated he could destroy the solar system with his power. Goku Punched it. Big difference. and feats are feats, anyone who can bust that thing is damn powerful.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Natsu Dragneel Vs Human Torch

@TheNeutralOne said:

@solesamurai:

So in your head, someone who has control over what their heat touches, how it effects people, and how much is exerted. Is now all of a sudden supposed to be some kind of heat tanking god? lol

^ did you read what you typed?

Because that does in fact make him an expert at controlling heat not to mention the fact that he can go super nova and only be tired. Explain to me how one reaches super nova heats and not get effected but gets affected by temperatures not even close to it. I don't get what you were trying to accomplish.

He can be affected by lightening but you cannot compare storm to natsu. Storm uses natural lightening and on top of that is leagues better than natsu in every single way. Her lightening isn't the only key factor to her victory its her experience and extreme battle knowledge. Natsu isn't a genius and he just tries any attack until one of them works. Literally. Also human torch can clearly avoid any melee range lightening attack natsu has and any ranged one will probably not hit him considering he moves pretty fast.

I guess you didn't understand what i was trying to say because nothing in it was weird. YOU pointed out in this thread, how Human Torch's degree of control over his flame was so severe he could control what was effected by the heat of his flame and such in order to interact with people with his flames on. Then you attempted to say he has a resistance to heat because he wears his flames, i countered it by saying how is it he can control his flames to that degree but it's assumed he just deals with the heat with them on. Basically I caught you contradicting yourself.

How is it you got from my statement storm = natsu? I said if storm can electrocute him, Natsu should have 0 issues doing the same. and generally we assume PIS is off in battles, natsu while not the smartest guy isn't exactly dumb either, he'll figure out that using fire against some who can cover themselves in the stuff = not such a good idea.

Show me 1 good reactionary Human torch feat. I'd love to see where he gets this amazing speed from, He flys fast, he isn't a fast fighter stop making shit up.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Jirou Vs Namek Saga Goku

@taichokage said:

Not at all. Do you know how massive a star must be? You calculated Kai's planet was around 10x as massive as the earth. That's not even a trifle close to even the smallest stars let alone average and large ones.

No I didn't calculate that at all. I estimated the minimum it would be was 10x since king kais planet was 10x earths gravity. When you take into account mass, the gravity, size of his planet etc. and calculate that(which someone did in that thread and came up with the conclusion that busting king kais planet was the more difficult than busting a star)You'd get hundreds of thousands of times more dense than earth. That would be the equivalent of sticking a monster truck into a thimble without stretching the thimble.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Counter My Character ( RE Make)

Slade Wilson(Deathstroke the Terminator)

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Battles » Jirou Vs Namek Saga Goku

@taichokage said:

Yet this was post EOS Goku. He was stronger than end of Z ssj3 and possibly Gohan as well. Even were that the case Gohan and Majin Buu are the only non fused canon character more powerful than him outside of the Gods like Bills. Also where is this star busting punching conning from? He's nowhere near that.

How is he nowhere near that? I've already explained how on the lower spectrum of the feat considering King kai might be able to manipulate the gravity of his planet, and even it was normal gravity, Goku punching through it like he did is the equivalent of him punching through the sun without doing any math. he's likely throwing out punches capable of far greater feats if I were to do the math. It was in the Avengers vs Dbz thread I explained this. And that's with the gravity being at normal earth level. Hell if it was moon level gravity it would still be at around sun busting power due to the sheer mass/volume of the planet.

Where was it stated he was stronger then Gohan? And I didn't mean anyone literally stronger than him, anyone with comparable power like Vegeta and Gotenks etc. should be capable of doing that to likely slightly lesser extents as well. It isn't unlikely at all that quite a few DBZ chars can do it.

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