solesamurai (Level 8)

@DBZ_universe @GIRUGAMESH @SpeedForceSpider @UltimateHero0406 You guys wanna get in on this thread? >_>

Unless I'm missing something Intimidation isn't face, sure Zebra is scary but compared to Ichiryuu he shouldn't really be all that intimidating.

@DBZ_universe said:

@solesamurai: ok sorry for quoting.

But I do remember the tiny Galaxies but throwing them no, Ill have to play it.

What I meant by don't quote me on that is Don't play the game then come back and tell me off about it because I admitted I wasn't sure lol. I didn't mean literally quote. And yea, I remember them too, but I thought about it for a second and questioned if he actually threw them.

I personally don't think Toriko can beat him as he currently is, But @othus12 Seems to think for some reason Toriko would obliterate him so badly that Sensui would get the same treatment Goku gave Nappa. So here it is, Who'll win and why?? Most recent Versions of both characters, both are bloodlusted and looking to kill. 3 Hours prep for both sides. GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!

@othus12 said:

@solesamurai: cool story bro. i dare you make sensui vs toriko i double dare you dude.

i wanna see if just a soul wants to debate in favor of sensui (maybe you right? lol)

what i only meant is that if star can do that to toriko he can do that to sensui as well. is it that hard to understand?

and now the toriko side is probably going to lose? are you out of your mind? i am so confident on starjun defeating sensui that even with a couple of showings i can see that he wins.

i understand what you are saying but if we go your way we are gonna wait until tuesday or wednesday only for you to come here and say: oh damn i guess star wins after all when the rest of the community knew all along that starjun had this in the bag.

when toriko characters started to look down on capture levels 100+ is when YYH characters ceased to be a threat.

oh and BTW tell me when did i cried when my character lost? care to point me to that thread? remind me of that VERY SAD time.

Will do, there are various yusuke vs Toriko and variant battles on various sites, all of which I have seen YYH have won, and quite easily at that, this should be no different.

Everyone will

Considering Toriko at his best couldn't beat sensui, no it;s not easy to understand, You must not know much about YYH if you think Toriko would beat sensui let alone Defeat him so easily he'd have the energy to lift him with 1 arm.

Once again, this is why I can't take you seriously in toriko threads.

even if starjun showed enough to prove he'd beat Sensui in 1 chapter(which 1 is unlikely considering he has 20 pages to do so, and 2. No one in the Toriko verse bar Ichiryuu Is believable to be his equal)This still wouldn't be a stomp like you think it is.

YYH character were busting mountains with their bare hands around the time Yusuke fought sensui, No one in toriko can replicate this without using their full power, by the end of YYH they were country busting, in power. Toriko is still below YYH, believe it buddy.

I said You cry everytime a toriko character is in danger of losing something, I'm not going to look for a specific thread just to prove this to you considering you're doing it now.

@DBZ_universe said:

@solesamurai said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@solesamurai: I don't remember Chakravartin throwing Galaxies only stars.

He was, they were very tiny for galazies but they were galaxies nonetheless.

I do remember he had tiny Galaxies on him but throwing them I don't remember. Ill have to play the chapter again to see tomorrow

Lol well don't quote me on this I'm not 100% sure. I do remember galaxies however.

@Kobra678 said:

@solesamurai said:

@Kobra678 said:

@Sonata said:

@DBZ_universe:

I don't see how The Rangers lose here

• Been around and done it longer
• Much more flash and coordination
• And Frieza looked at the Ginyu Force kinda embarrassed lol

Embarrassed you say? Is this an embarrassed face to you?

@solesamurai said:

@Kobra678 said:

@DBZ_universe: What do the rangers have on this?

OH GOD WTF AM I LOOK AT JESUS THIS IS ENOUGH TO MAKE A GROWN MAN HAVE NIGHTMARES FOR YEARS WHY WOULD YOU POST THIS SDKFSKNDMGFNE JGRNELGNESG AM.E,GN EASNGFEHJBJFNQEWLKJGF!!!1!!!!!!!

This is the face I had when i read this

You serious?

Please stop. You're giving me nightmares.

I bet the guy on the right has worse nightmares

Ok that was pretty funny.

@othus12 said:

wooow guess someone can't see above the evident.

what was i thinking when i replied to someone with the IQ of a monkey.

so if starjun had the freaking super saiyan god fried in his hand guess it wouldnt matter because he is just lifting a average grown man right?

please delete your account.

What is the evident? that a guy with no feats that temporarily bested someone(who couldn't beat sensui themsevles)by unknown means is all of a sudden considered sensui's superior? You have yet to post a single feat(which was expected because once again STARJUN HAS NONE)yet you want me to believe he stomps sensui?

Oh great, let's resort to insults, since we have no actual argument. Let's act like an immature 7 year old. I've told you once before, You act like a fuckign baby in Toriko involved threads when the toriko side is probably going to lose. So i shouldn't be surprised here.

If starjun was holding someone who was more powerful than sensui hell yea I'd say he wins, DBZ is vastly above YYH power wise. Toriko arguably would be hard pressed to beat sensui IMO. So until then starjun besting him is moot. Even more so since he has no feats.

I'll gladly refrain from doing, i will however continue to never take you seriously again considering you're an immature 7 year old who cry's when his favorite character loses. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@othus12 said:

@solesamurai: his feat is doing this to toriko

which is what would toriko do to sensui.

Oh cool he can lift up an above average sized grown man with 1 arm. I'm done taking you seriously in Toriko threads. Just stop replying to me.

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@solesamurai said:

I've only watched Soul Eater anime, and if they are anywhere near as powerful as they were in the anime Luffy wouldn;t have to much trouble, Dunno who Sonic baby is so i won't touch him. But luffy is pretty damn beast at the moment, easily Shichibukai level+.

Don't worry, Sonic isn't much. He is only a ninja that moves around the speed of sound. Fodder compared to the others.

So Basically luffy wins without much trouble at all.

@DBZ_universe said:

@solesamurai: I don't remember Chakravartin throwing Galaxies only stars.

He was, they were very tiny for galazies but they were galaxies nonetheless.

@Jinbeifan1 said:

@solesamurai:

1. his DF only became useful because he had his own superstrength, his own speed, and he figured out a way to make it even more useful in combat

2. a pure blood would be a full shinigami or a full quincy but no... his blood is mixed with EVERYTHING if that's what you call a pure blood, then I cant imagine what a mixed blood is :P so in reality your opinion is moot

3. exactly, all he learned was ways of making his getsuga tensho bigger... not really anything else besides that

4. The reason kubo's writing is that shitty is for that very reason... theres no damn development with ichigo or his powers, just a higher scale version of the GT, as I said in the previous statement. It's not very imaginative. He literally has one move and the rest is moving around really fast and slashing. Luffy was creative with his fighting techniques and thus has made better uses of the DF he has

5. If you really think that is all there is to haki, then you are VERY naive (nice way of saying it) Haki has more than one application, not just for nullifying logia types in which you think is all its good for. You would know that it was more creative than that if you actually paid attention

6. thats even worse, if he's gonna be a hybrid of everything he might as well use it to his advantage and do something better than making a giant slash attack. I dont like the fact that kubo did all that, but its not like anything can be done about it. Might as well use it to your advantage and give him a cool power... but knowing how much of a troll kubo is then I wont expect anything extravagent

7. fanservice is also a big part of why FT is so full of fail, but hey if thats all your looking for then yes its a good series to use

1. No it didn't In the OP environment Luffy's powers are incredibly useful even without super strength and speed. for instance he never has to worry about blocking things like bullets and blunt force attacks since he doesn't take damage from bullets and blunt force attacks have to be incredibly powerful to damage him.

2. I'm guessing a pure blood, is someone who has the ability to adapt to all sort of spiritual changes. Meaning his blood isn't saturated with 1 type of signature ability, he can use them all. that's what I theorize a pure blood is anyway.

3. yes, making your point about Kubo giving him everything moot, even with him getting new powers all the time he still only uses the getsuga. Even when he had hollow powers(I personally don't think he has them anymore) he never once used a cero or anything .

4. You're backtracking, First you said it was shitty because ichigo got everything, now you say it;s shitty because he doesn't get anything. Ichigo's power is universal, he never needed any development, sure more creative ways to use his powers would have been nice, but he never needed them.

5. IIRC Luffy didn''t start getting any new attacks until well after the Time Skip.

6. That isn't what I think there is all to haki, but I feel that's why it was created, Specifically because without luffy would never beat a Logia user without some sort of plot device or a Logia DF of his own.

7. That's another thing, You people use the word troll wrong. Kubo is a moron with his story, not a troll. A troll is someone who deliberately gets you interested in something and pisses you off on purpose in the midst of it. Kubo is inadvertently screwing himself over, that's a sign of incompetence not trolling.

8. Yea the fan service does ruin it. but that's all there is to look forward to it at this point. You can't honestly tell me the last time you've been like "OH WOW I WONDER WHAT'S GOING ON IN FAIRY TAIL THIS WEEK!"

@Kobra678 said:

@Sonata said:

@DBZ_universe:

I don't see how The Rangers lose here

• Been around and done it longer
• Much more flash and coordination
• And Frieza looked at the Ginyu Force kinda embarrassed lol

Embarrassed you say? Is this an embarrassed face to you?

@solesamurai said:

@Kobra678 said:

@DBZ_universe: What do the rangers have on this?

OH GOD WTF AM I LOOK AT JESUS THIS IS ENOUGH TO MAKE A GROWN MAN HAVE NIGHTMARES FOR YEARS WHY WOULD YOU POST THIS SDKFSKNDMGFNE JGRNELGNESG AM.E,GN EASNGFEHJBJFNQEWLKJGF!!!1!!!!!!!

This is the face I had when i read this

You serious?

Please stop. You're giving me nightmares.

The problem with Ulquiorra is Ulquiorra takes to long to get serious. Even if he took Zebra seriously from the beginning, he wouldn't care enough to avoid a voice missle, and would attempt tanking it. Abd while I don't think it would 1 shot, Ulquiorra would take a shitload of damage from it. But in these conditions he would probably win. He'd go Segunda Etapa immediately and pretty much win at that point.

@Jinbeifan1 said:

@solesamurai: alright then, let me break it down for you. First off I dont give a flying f##k about naruto but even he isnt as broken as Ichigo.

Luffy is the LEAST broken character of the three. First off he's got one of the most unlikely and considerably weak DF's in the series if you think about it. In fact if it were another person who didnt have super strength or speed, then this DF would be considered lame. Kings haki may be considered too much, but all it does is knock out weak willed people, and he isnt the only one on the show with it so that cant really be used! Ichigo is LITERALLY the only one in the entire series who is: a shinigami, quincy, fullbring and vizored... now the only thing missing from his line up is soul king and there you have it. Luffy needed a time skip to be as strong as he is now, naruto i cant say the same about but idgaf about him, winning over a demon of hate with the power of friendship is equally if not worse than shitty writing than what kubo has written... but it's not far off. anymore questions go ahead and ask :P if they do an actual time skip with ichigo learning about his quincy powers instead of standing in a place where time is all messed up (that was such a big plot device) then I will withdraw some of my judgement. also dont take all this the wrong way, I still love bleach, but some elements just piss me off like no other, even worse so for FT

1. this is all your opinion.

2. luffy has a weak devil fruit? generally Yes paramecia types are considered weak, luffy has universally one of the most useful devil fruits shown in the series. Period, couple with haki he can muster amazing feats. Luffy's devil fruit is about as powerful as he is creative, which is vast.

3. Ichigo once again was named a pure blood early on in the series. he was always meant to be racially relevant to everything shown up to this point. Not to mention even when he is everything he only uses his Shinigami powers. So your point is moot.

4. Ichigo also had a time skip, albeit not nearly as long was still a time skip, and he gradually got all this as the story progressed. He really didn't even need a time skip, as he never truly learned anything new.

5. what shitty writing has kubo done to warrant getting this hate? ichigo has gotten nothing new in the last 5 years of bleach up til this point. luffy has a new fucking technique every chapter. yet everyone is on oda's dick constantly.

6. you know what else is a plot device? haki, that shit still doesn't remotely make sense logically, and the entire concept seemed like it was pulled out of oda's ass as a way to give luffy the ability to beat logia types, instead of thinking of something creative.

7. I doubt ichigo will use anything from his quincy powers other than Blut Vene.

8. FT is so ridiculous nowadays it started off good, but the power of friendship is OP and getting old. It's not even a manga anymore rather than a comic that preaches at us like we're 7 year olds. I only read it for boobs nowadays that's it.

@othus12 said:

@solesamurai: so what's your point? are you arguing in favor of sensui or were you trying to apport something to this debate? he still gets destroyed

I was arguing aagainst the notion that starjun stomps, he has no feats, meaning he doesn't beat sensui. I hate when battles are made and one side has only hype to decide their fate. if they don't have anything to show, they can't win. It's that simple.

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@solesamurai: galaxy busting

1. destructive capabilities do not solely decide a battle

2. IIRC Chakravartin was tossing galaxies at asura.

3. Still don't see the connection you were making.

@othus12 said:

@solesamurai: toriko is one of the few mangas where the claims are always true. show me one claim in toriko that isnt accurate

Doesn't matter, speculation is still speculation. Just because You think someone can do something doesn't mean they can or is even in character for them to do so. FACT is Starjun only has feats for durability/endurance. FACT is Starjun beat toriko by unknown means off panel. FACT is without speed feats he isn't blitzing Sensui of all people. FACT is without speed feats, starjun isn't blitzing anyone of any kind. BECAUSE FACT IS HE HASN'T SHOWN OR EVEN IMPLIED HE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO SO. I don't care how many times people say he can do something because of 1 statement, he can't do it until he has shown he can. End of story.

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

I've never read this incarnation of Thor but if he's stronger than Odin then he stomps Asura

How does him being more powerful than odin have anything to do with beating Asura?

@othus12 said:

@solesamurai: ok how about this:

now

starjun is clearly fast regardless of the attack he uses

I seriously don't understand why you thought this proved anything. No one did anything. Not a feat, it;s a statement, Starjun can say everything he wants, it will be considered hyperbole until he gets some feats. And since he has none he can't blitz anyone.