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Battles » Gotenks vs Broly

I love how people like to say things like Broly and Kid Buu destroyed galaxies by destroying planets one at a time, like there are no such things as stars, and also that Bibidi and Broly somehow live very long.

In Broly's case we see the galaxy destroyed on the screen as King Kai watches in horror. In Kid Buu's case we see his Ki enveloping the galaxy in a flashback, after seeing planets get destroyed, in addition Supreme kai said "galaxies", and Kid Buu did not know IT at the time, and was constantly sealed and resealed by Bibidi. Kid Buu may not be a one shot galaxy buster like Broly as it can't be proven, but he has to be close, otherwise the timescale is just too ridiculous.

As far as this battle is concerened; feats indicate Broly withe ease, but logic dictates it being alot closer as Broly is shown as clearly more powerful than ssj2 gohan, but in a less convincing manner than fat buu, ssj gotenks IMO was weaker than fat buu pre and post ROSAT, so I still go with Broly.

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Battles » Madara and Izuna vs Itachi and Sasuke

I think I will wait to see this "perfect susanoo", because IMO Madara is going to make Itachi's look junior, even with the help of the items Itachi has.

I am pretty sure that the shield that reflects all attacks, only covers the front, and so madara can just sent out some 5 susanoo clones at the same time or something like that.

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Battles » Pain vs Tobi

The interesting thing about naruto is that there are many battles in which either person can win. In fact this battle is all about who prepares the best.

Tobi: As the leader of the Akatsuki it would be no surprise that he would know how nagato's powers work, and so he will be checking out all of the high areas for Nagato's location. With his teleportation abilities as well as his sharingun and intangibility he will be able to detect patterns and be very cautious.

Nagato: has the rinnegan, and with the six paths of pain will be making alot of summons to keep tobi on his toes, along with the pain that spams out missiles all the time, he will try to overcome the intangibility time limit of tobi (see Konan fight for reference). Nagato will also likely keep Tendo pain with him in order to push or pull tobi. In addition Minato was able to exploit the fact that tobi has to materialize in order to attack, and so there is no reason why six paths of pain would not try the same trick.

Objectively there are scenarios in which both could win, though it is far more likely that Pain will win, due to the sheer number of tactics he can use.

Therefore, Pain wins IMO 7/10 times.

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Battles » Piccolo Vs. Pikkon


Another important fact people need to realise is that Pikkon was actually stronger than goku (by a small margin), as can be seen that he was faster and stronger and pretty much had goku until he used IT, if it was a fight to the death with no ring Goku would have lost. Moreover, the possibility that goku got stronger is not far fetched considering he even had lightning, when first powering up to ssj. 
 
I always held the belief that Pikkon would demolish Piccolo, mainly due to the following FACTS: 
 
1) Pikkon defeated, Freiza, King Cold, Super Perfect Cell, and Freiza's men by himself with ease, wearing his training clothes 
2) Pikkon then was winning the fight against goku before the last blast, and performed better than perfect cell. 
3)Pikkon was the best fighter in Otherworldn (not a title to be taken lightly) 
4)Piccolo was no match whatsoever for Dabura 
5)Piccolo has done nothing to indicate an increase in power since the cell saga 
 
Thus when speculating, there is only one valid conclusion which is that Pikkon WINS
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Battles » Ash's Pikachu vs Black Adam

Black Adam wins, he knows how to fight people faster, stronger and more powerful than him because of his ferocity:

 

   

 

Black Adam therefore wins this.

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Battles » Super janemba vs kid buu


The post above is completely wrong.

 

Goku could only hold his own against kid buu. Goku's power had increased since fighting Janemba and superbuu, so that when he fought kid buu he was more powerful.

 

Kid Buu is much stronger than super buu, fat janemba and in my view would dispose of super janemba.

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Dragon Ball » How fast are DBZ characters?



 
 


He was faster than the light energy emanating outward.


 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

He got a good distance away before the light explosion could, i.e he outraced the light. 
Not to mention in addition to this we have previous feats of ki beams going nigh ightspeed, and statements showing Freeza's beams are faster.    
 
 
I still stand by SSJ being lightspeed like  SSJ Gotenks.
 
SSJ aura is emits light - Evidence is Goku vs Yakon
The is no light in space - Evidence is common sense, Star produce light in space, without them space is filled with darkness.
SSJ Gotenks circles the world 5 times on panel, some circles were twice the circumference of earth.
SSJ aura of light can be seen from space, you can also see the amount of laps he did around the earth before the light disappeared.
 

 
 

 

 
 


Because SSJ Gotenks had flown round the earth 5 times on panel and some of the laps were twice the size of the earth. The light emitted from the SSJ also had not disappeared yet, we all know light does not say there forever. 
 
Because of this I believe SSJ Gotenks & above is capable of lightspeed travel speed & FTL combat speed.      
 
And the fact that King Kai stated Frieza and goku as moving even faster than the spaceship that goku used to get to Namek which is massively FTL.
 
DBZ characters are ridiculously fast.
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Battles » Kid Buu Vs. Thor

@Destinyheroknight said:
" @MisterShin:  

that was the moment buu learned how to teleport, he mimic kaioshin doing it to teleport goku. 

No, Buu did it before, when he kill Eastern, Western, Northern, and Grand Supreme Kai. That all happen on there planet  "

That was just speed, not teleportation, Vegeta stated this when Goku first showed instant transmission. 
 
As for this battle Kid Buu wins, I will post the reasos later. 
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Battles » Dark Schneider vs. Broly

@TheLegendaryOne said:
" @hitsusatsu11 said:
" @TheLegendaryOne: Those could have been in the northern galaxy on the way to the south.
If you can definitively prove this, then you have an argument. "


Nope the proof actually lies in your hands. 
 
Firstly, we see the Galaxy get destroyed. 
Secondly, King Kai states it was destroyed. 
Thirdly, Goku confirms it was destroyed. 
Finally, King Kai states that his Galaxy is next. 
 
Now are you honestly saying that visible proof, and eyewitness accounts are not enough. Goku is flying in space, and you act shocked when you see stars and planets. Goku then says the south galaxy is destroyed, now he may not be the brightest bulb but I think he knows when a galaxy is destroyed. 
 
Now please stop talking nonsense about fools on fooltube who are always talking trash. 
 
PS - I don't mean it personally I am just sick of seeing people finding illogical reasons just to ignore what they see, when it clearly was not meant to be PIS. This was not mentioned once or twice but several times. 
But come on many years. How old do you think broly is, and how fast do you think his father is who by the way is always with him. 
 
Peace

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Battles » Kid Buu Vs. Janemba

@Newdeath said:
"Janemba easily. While Kid Buu managed to hold his own against SSJ3 Goku and SSJ2 Vegeta, he didn't beat them into their base forms as quickly or as easily as Janemba did. SSJ3 Goku was actually fighting quite evenly with Kid Buu and if not for his depleting energy then he would have fought for much longer, Janemba however dominated the battle with SSJ3 Goku and proceeded to make Vegeta look like a helpless child in battle. Not to mention Janemba has a more versatile set of abilities. Janemba can avoid Kid Buu's attacks by using Bunkai Teleport.   ND "

What you are forgetting is that the battle with janemba was first. Goku and vegeta got their butts kicked and so would have in power. Not to mention that Kid Buu was just toying with the pair not simply "holding his own". Kid Buu annhialted Vegeta in fact you could sympathise with the prince that it was the toughest battle he faced.Goku's punches did not even affect Kid Buu. Goku could not vapourise Kid Buu and neither can Janemba all of Janembas attacks physically cut the saiyans, Buu would not care.
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Battles » Kenshiro vs. Goku in a strict H2H fight


Goku is far superior i would say: 
 
- trained by Master Roshi (mastered turtle hermit style) 
- Trained by king Kai 
- Goku managed to make a joke of all of cell's tricks and fighting styles simply due to encountering them before 
- Goku is able not only to mimic techniques but improve them 
- Goku as a saiyan instinctively knows how to fight 
- goku is faster and stronger, whilst also being more agile. Goku would have punched Kenshiro many times before he could even respond.
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Battles » Buuhan vs. Janemba

@MisterShin said:
"Janemba Reality Warper Create Perfect Clone, Power output equal to original.  Janemba can teleport, shove limbs & attacks through portals.  I give the win to Janemba every time. "

What, am I missing something, super saiyan 3 goku was putting up as much of a fight as he dud against buutenks, heck even Vegeta got in a hit which affected him. Buuhan simply toyed with goku and Vegeta. Janemba won't even get past the barrier. I honestly don't put janemba even above super saiyan 3, he is kid buu level at best.
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Battles » Ty lee vs Videl

@Dream said:
"Videl wins. As MisterShin points out, Videl was able to hold up for a time against Spopovitch who was empowered by Babidi's magic and her ability to fly gives her a huge advantage in maneuverability. Being more powerful than Mr. Satan who was shown to evade bullet fire from the thugs that shot Buu's puppy, it wouldn't be crazy to assume she's faster than him as well. Ty Lee, at most, is a peak human with her acrobatic capabilities. You can't really see the two being in an even fight. "

The problem with that, is that you are assuming that humans in all the different realities are equal. Peak human is arbitrary, Batman dodged omega beams and lightning, obviously that is faster than say captain america.
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Battles » Ty lee vs Videl

Anybody else got any opinion????
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Battles » Ty lee vs Videl

@kubashi said:
" @soldier said:
"

Master Acrobat: Ty Lee is extraordinarily acrobatic. Even at a young age, she was able to do cartwheels and somersaults in mid-air with a skill that surpassed even the agile Azula's. Her acrobatic abilities allowed her to join the Fire Nation Circus, where she frequently performed high-wire acts with balance and grace. Because of this, she is very fast and agile in battle, able to outmaneuver almost any opponent she comes across. Her abilities allowed her to dodge dozens of powerful Earthbenders, who were unable to land a hit on her. She is also very flexible, able to contort herself into positions nearly impossible for a normal person to achieve and walk on her hands without any struggle. These abilities allow her to scale almost any surface very quickly, and squeeze through most barriers and 
into small spaces.

 
 
Pressure-Point Master: However, Ty Lee's defining, most noticeable ability is her mastery of pressure-point striking martial arts, Chi Blocking. She is able to strike sequences of pressure points immobilize her enemies to various degrees. She has the ability to paralyze a single body part, or even the entire human anatomy. This technique allows her to block certain Chi paths in benders to compromise their abilities. This makes her especially dangerous to warriors like Katara, who rely solely on their Bending and possess no secondary fighting skills. She is so powerful, that outside the walls of Ba Sing Se, she was able to defeat dozens of powerful Earthbenders within seconds. However, if her target has faced her before or is expecting it, the effectiveness of her Chi blocking decreases as her opponent takes measures to prevent her from using the technique. Fighting her before, Suki was able to avoid her attacks at the Boiling Rock , and Katara and Sokka were able to do so as well. She also takes Azula by surprise when she is about to strike Mai. It might be possible that she could kill someone with her chi blocking skills, but doesn't do so because of her kind-hearted personality and lack of need to do so.    

"
Well there you go, Ty Lee's own abilities gives her a heavy advantage as Videl does not possess ki attacks and will most likely fail to defend herself against Ty Lee's pressure point attacks."

But videl was even better than the world champion; her father. She has also taken blasts from Hirudegarn, and survived a knock from Broly. Spopovic got his head kicked 180 degrees, anybody else would have died. Videl has also fought guys with guns and as saiyawoman was pretty impessive. So I thought this would be a good fight.
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Battles » Ty lee vs Videl


Master Acrobat: Ty Lee is extraordinarily acrobatic. Even at a young age, she was able to do cartwheels and somersaults in mid-air with a skill that surpassed even the agile Azula's. Her acrobatic abilities allowed her to join the Fire Nation Circus, where she frequently performed high-wire acts with balance and grace. Because of this, she is very fast and agile in battle, able to outmaneuver almost any opponent she comes across. Her abilities allowed her to dodge dozens of powerful Earthbenders, who were unable to land a hit on her. She is also very flexible, able to contort herself into positions nearly impossible for a normal person to achieve and walk on her hands without any struggle. These abilities allow her to scale almost any surface very quickly, and squeeze through most barriers and into small spaces.

Pressure-Point Master: However, Ty Lee's defining, most noticeable ability is her mastery of pressure-point striking martial arts, Chi Blocking. She is able to strike sequences of pressure points immobilize her enemies to various degrees. She has the ability to paralyze a single body part, or even the entire human anatomy. This technique allows her to block certain Chi paths in benders to compromise their abilities. This makes her especially dangerous to warriors like Katara, who rely solely on their Bending and possess no secondary fighting skills. She is so powerful, that outside the walls of Ba Sing Se, she was able to defeat dozens of powerful Earthbenders within seconds. However, if her target has faced her before or is expecting it, the effectiveness of her Chi blocking decreases as her opponent takes measures to prevent her from using the technique. Fighting her before, Suki was able to avoid her attacks at the Boiling Rock , and Katara and Sokka were able to do so as well. She also takes Azula by surprise when she is about to strike Mai. It might be possible that she could kill someone with her chi blocking skills, but doesn't do so because of her kind-hearted personality and lack of need to do so.    

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Battles » Ty lee vs Videl

@Kurohige:
Really, I mean videl is probably only a bit stronger than her father, and so I was actually thinking this would be a good match. Videl got owned by spopovich, and in my mind is no better than Chi Chi, in fact i think ty lee has demonstrated more skill than Videl. 
 
I actually thought Videl would lose, despite having the advantage of flying. Videl is sure stronger from what I have seen but I can't say she is faster than Ty lee.
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