@SekiryuuteiDxD: yeah that's everybody except for Lee and his group. But they still know to put down a walker. Also I had forgotten a couple of people. Dwight, Carson, and I guess maybe Lydia since she seems to have a thing to Carl
@reiyo: and they don't have the experience to bring them down. Heck there is the numbers to as they can just fire on them and have it be a blood bath. Also Rick and Carl are the biggest disadvantages to the groups due to their injuries but they still are some of the best fighters. Then again Gabriel and Sophia might hold the group back some.