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Battles » Midora vs Kirby

I gave Kirby too much credit but the final bosses in the Kirby verse are haxed as hell. Kirby needs plot armor to deal with them.

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Battles » Midora vs Kirby

@othus12 said:

@Saladking: You do realize that Kirby's verse doesn't take place in ours right? Our solar system isn't even if his verse. Do you not understand what fiction is?

dude...the kirby verse DOES take place in our verse before correcting someone like that please do your research.

According to the Kirby's Adventure instruction manual, Dream Land (and thus, Popstar) is light years away from Earth; so far away, in fact, that it is invisible to the Earth's population

My point is that Kirby is able to dodge a barrage of attacks while traveling on a massively FTL star so reaction is not a problem and lol@ Meta Knight being more than a match for Kirby. Kirby defeats him in every game and sends him running off every time. Kirby has much better feats than Meta Knight.

han solo also travels FTL on his milenium falcon (just one of dozens of examples BTW). does that make him sub relativistic? of course not! besides on fighting scenes the warp star isnt traveling nowhere nearly as fast as its full speed. (there is also no stated distance between one place and another nor timeframe and for obvious game mechanics it wouldnt take long to jump from one world to another)

you use your final blow sends him flying off the planet.

it doesnt. it hits and HE flies away. like i said, even toriko could perform a feat like that so meh.

No the Kirby anime is not canon to the games. I don't care if Sakurai helped with the cartoon because it doesn't change the fact that it never took place at any point in Kirby's timeline. Its not canon unless Sakurai confirms it to be canon. That's like saying Dragon Ball GT is canon.

the kirby anime actually concedes with the new games. it doesnt interfere at all on the timeline as the kirby anime storyline is previous to any of the newer games. if you can find a storyline contradiction then fine. until then deal with it.

Since when was Midora multi planet level? This is the first I'm hearing of this. Please do show me some scans to back that up.

earth sized planets. midora was stated to be able to destroy the toriko planet (which is around 5 times the size of earth) just if he felt like it.

Explain to me why Midora isn't getting blitz here while you're at it

1.-one thing is kirby to have relativistic reactions and another is to have lightspeed attacks. he clearly doesnt have the latter

2.-kirby is no goku bro. for starters midora calls relativistic attacks SLOW.

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he even dodged with his atoms inversed.

he has precognition and planet+ durability

there isnt a single thing kirby can do to harm midora. as i said absortion wouldnt work as midora's own gravity overrides that of the toriko world.

while we are at it how is kirby surviving getting destroyed by hungry space,hungry tongue,minority world?

Alright I'll concede. I know when I've been beaten.

But the anime really isn't canon at all to the storyline. For one thing you said that it takes place before the games (which was stated no where) yet Kirby fights Nightmare at the end of the show but in the games Nightmare makes his first appearance in Nightmare in Dreamland

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Battles » Midora vs Kirby

@othus12:

You do realize that Kirby's verse doesn't take place in ours right? Our solar system isn't even if his verse. Do you not understand what fiction is? Is planet Popstar, Ripple Star, Shiver Star, etc in our verse? No. It's just fiction.

Stop using gameplay mechanics as an argument because Waddle Dee has never canonically harmed Kirby in any way

My point is that Kirby is able to dodge a barrage of attacks while traveling on a massively FTL star so reaction is not a problem and lol@ Meta Knight being more than a match for Kirby. Kirby defeats him in every game and sends him running off every time. Kirby has much better feats than Meta Knight.

Of course Kirby didn't literally punch Marx (unless you had fighter ability), depending on which ability you use your final blow sends him flying off the planet. The actual cutscene shows him getting knocked back by force. His wings weren't even functioning in the cutscene.

No the Kirby anime is not canon to the games. I don't care if Sakurai helped with the cartoon because it doesn't change the fact that it never took place at any point in Kirby's timeline. Its not canon unless Sakurai confirms it to be canon. That's like saying Dragon Ball GT is canon.

Meta Knight never canonically resisted Kirby's inhale ingame because he never used it on him.

Midora's tongue is useless here since Kirby can make physical contact with someone who's body can absorb matter on a higher scale

Since when was Midora multi planet level? This is the first I'm hearing of this. Please do show me some scans to back that up.

Explain to me why Midora isn't getting blitz here while you're at it.

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@generator2000:

Because most sites including animevice don't allow gameplay mechanics to be used as feats.

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Battles » Midora vs Kirby

@generator2000:

Please don't use that video. It won't help our case.

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Battles » Midora vs Kirby

@generator2000 said:

Kirby is a star buster.

Kirby is only continent level but with a very hax stomach

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Battles » Midora vs Kirby

@othus12:

What? How was it metaphorical? The sun and moon were literally fighting.

0:00-0:27

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a3FqI4DKgDg

Every time the sun would knock the moon away you can see it changing from daytime to nighttime and vice versa. The whole point of that arc was to get the sun and moon to stop fighting.

Brick level Wadldle Dee? Are you using gameplay mechanics, anime feats or something? I'm not going to say Kirby is planet level but Waddle Dees are complete fodder to Kirby.

As for reaction Kirby has demonstrated good reaction and dodging on warp star

3:12-3:27

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YLqP_1k3ruw

He eventually got hit but he dodged most of them and they were coming from all directions. Kirby could have eaten that last projectile if he was in base but he had the Star Rod ability at the time.

You still have to take into account that Warp Star is massively FTL so a frontal blitz is likely to happen. Warp Star can travel to Planet Ripple Star from Popstar in a couple of seconds and Ripple Star isn't even in the same galaxy as Popstar.

8:00-8:17

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XVNmAGwCH5o

Literally 2 seconds is all it took. Kirby is able to dodge projectiles on such a fast star so besting Meta Knight in combat is no sweat for him especially since he does it routinely.

Now let's get into the strength feats

When Kirby defeated Marx (Who's massively FTL) he hit Marx so hard that he sent him flying off the planet they were fighting on, out of orbit, and into Nova with enough force to completely destroy Nova

Nova was going to crash into Popstar so the moon and the sun made a baracade to stop him and he crashed right into them but Kirby was able to one shot him by punching a guy off a planet and into him

6:53-7:07

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JgWkMWG6HNI&list=PL6BFE795B3FEF2687

Nova crashes right into the moon and sun at full speed and they struggle to hold him back. He was undamaged in the collision too.

Here's Kirby punching Marx out of orbit and into Nova

2:52

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a3FqI4DKgDg

Kirby wasn't amped either. He was in base when he fought Marx.

Marx body can also absorb matter

0:13-0:31

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aeRYX5z6Bq0

Yet Kirby is able to slap him around

Marx absorbed the same energy that was used to build the Master Crown which Magolor used to create and destroy a dimension.

Kirby is also strong enough to carry King DDD's castle across an ocean.

0:52

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=30giW_iwHL8

I really hope you guys can view these mobile youtube links.

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@othus12:

Kirby does have legit feats and hax

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Battles » Kisame Vs Kakuzu Vs Orochimaru

@katmic:

Anyone who isn't a mindless, rampaging monster can casually walk around those gates. They were only as tall and wide as houses.

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@Whats_out_the_bag:

He's in base. Base Kirby is actually stronger than his copy abilities.

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Battles » Midora vs Kirby

Kirby gets his warp star

This is Kirby from Super Star Ultra

Location is a beach or something

Who wins?

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Battles » Kisame Vs Kakuzu Vs Orochimaru

Orochimaru is the most overrated villain in the Naruto verse. Kakazu and Kisame together would absolutely demolish him and Kisame would beat Kakuzu.

Manda and Hydra would gets drowned and eaten by 1000 sharks or Kakuzu can fry the water with his thunder heart while he glides over it

Or Kakuzu could simply obliterate him. He's more than fast and powerful enough.

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Battles » Perfect Cell vs Annihilus

@Killemall said:

@Saladking said:

@Killemall:

I'm using the Annihilus from the Annihilation War where he took a blast to the face that wiped out 3 star systems and it didn't even put a crack in his exoskeleton armor

Thats because he turned into a cacoon when the blast hit him. We actually see him emerge out of the cacoon. There were other beings envolved in the same blast as well, most of them survived too.

Also once you take into account the fact Annihilus was sporting 2 highest tier energy manipulating weapons him surving an energy blast of massive magnitude is understandable , specially when you take into consideration that just about everyone else there survived including street level guys like Gamora. Only the random annihilation waves were destroyed.

It says very little one his ability to tank a repeated blow from Cell. Specially when you take into considering that Thing in the past and Jhonny Storm after that has been able to solo him, it doesnt speak a lot about his durability.

Nova Prime likewise ripped him out, although after a massive struggle earlier.

As for combat speed, he threw a little temper tantrum and speed blitzed an entire space armada before his captain could even finish his sentence

Fair enough but that is likely the only speed feat you will find, i certainly dont think its enough to suggest he could contend with Cell.

Not to mention he was slapping around Nova Prime who's demonstrated FTL speed during his assault against the Phalanx army when he was wiping out their battleships

Unless we are talking about travelling in a straight line at multiple speed of light , i am obvilious to the feat mentioned. But just because he was able to fight Nova Prime doesnt automatically make him fast, given the list of people who have done so include Hulk, Ego the living planet , Quasar etc. Not everyone there is sporting super sped, and 2 of the 3 mentioned have been blitz convincingly by people who arent even at light speed mark.

Annihilus literally took the blast to the face. There was no cocoon involved.

http://imgur.com/WE2fCXb

That "cocoon" was just him smashing through the debris of his flagship. It even says it.

http://imgur.com/lLmYIaz

As for the survivers. They were obviously out of the blast area. The only people who were confirmed to be there was Nova and his crew and they were shielded by some weird unexplained forcefield.

Right before Galactus let out the blast he teleported Drax and Moondragon to a planet that was out of the blast area because Drax helped him so it's safe to say that Gamora and the others were in the safe zone as well. Just because a random panel showed them looking up doesn't mean they were in the blast area. The blast only covered 3 star systems and the rest of the wave was picked off by Ronan's army so there are plenty of safe zones in that galaxy.

Why can't Annihilus take blows from Cell? Galactus blast dwarfed and destroyed stars and moons and Annihilus took it directly to the face. Are you implying that Cell's punch and kicks are stronger than that?

Why do you keep bringing up the Fantastic Four? That Annihilus wasn't amped by the Cosmic Control Rod+Quantum bands. That's like me bringing up Imperfect Cell getting slapped around by Vegeta. We're using these two characters at their best.

As for the speed feat that's all he needs. Why is Cell assumed to be faster? Do you have any scans displaying superior speed? Imo I don't even think speed would matter at all in this battle. Annihilus could sit comfortably in one spot and drain all the energy that Cell gathered up through the Control Rod while Cell's punches bounce off his armor or forcefield.

Nova wasn't just flying in a straight line he was dodging lasers from assault ships when they calculated his speed and confirmed he was moving at superluminal speeds. I also hope you realize that speed isn't a factor at all in this battle.

"But just because he was able to fight Nova Prime doesnt automatically make him fast."

He wasn't just fighting him he was destroying him until he lost the quantum bands. Nova was only able to pull his guts through his open mouth out because he didn't have the power of the bands protecting him otherwise he could have no selled him.

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Isn't Kazuma like continent level and FTL?

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Battles » Edward Elric vs. Kazuma the Shell Bullet

Did Edward get a massive power boost in the final episode?

If not then he loses bad.

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@DBZ_universe:

He's the DBZ verse

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Erza Scarlet. At least Natsu is portrayed as a wreckless idiot but Erza has no flaws.

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Battles » Perfect Cell vs Annihilus

@Killemall:

I'm using the Annihilus from the Annihilation War where he took a blast to the face that wiped out 3 star systems and it didn't even put a crack in his exoskeleton armor

As for combat speed, he threw a little temper tantrum and speed blitzed an entire space armada before his captain could even finish his sentence

http://imgur.com/jzmRkBM

Not to mention he was slapping around Nova Prime who's demonstrated FTL speed during his assault against the Phalanx army when he was wiping out their battleships

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Naruto » Is anyone still enjoying Naruto?

@takashichea:

But no one posts there anymore

Look at all the recent posts. They're all 4 or more months old.

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Naruto » Is anyone still enjoying Naruto?

This whole Kaguya and gods reincarnated thing is really boring me to tears. I miss when ninjas had to use clever tactics that they've learned to take down stronger enemies but now....

You know. Chosen ones, gods, etc. I don't even know what's going on anymore.

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