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Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » Goku vs Sailor Moon discussion

@ohgodwhy: Wrong, Cell stated he could destroy a solar system. DBZ are faster than light and are star busters, probably multi star busters but are not galaxy busters.

Eternal Sailor moon is a universe buster through energy projection but has weak defenses.

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Battles » Goku, Vegeta run a massive gauntlet

Stops at 8 IMO. 3 upper SSJ2 levels vs. the 2 highest ones. Well I guess depending on the Gohan involved (high school Gohan or the kid that fights SPC? Vegeta and Goku might clear it if it's high school Gohan but I don't think they do if it's kid Gohan, that ones a real beast).

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Battles » Gohan(Dragonball Z)VS Superboy(DC Comics)

@PikminMania: Fail argument. Please learn the difference between panels used for dramatic effect and actual combat speed.

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » World Breaker Hulk vs Goku

On just pure punching power Hulk wins in a spite. Without speed and techniques, Goku loses. With actual techniques, Goku wins for the same reason Ultimate Super Saiyan Trunks lost to Cell despite having lots more power. Hulk would never hit Goku given eternity.

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Battles » Kid Buu vs Hal Jordan

@Newdeath: Nope. John never reconstructed an entire solar system, just it's shell and ring isn't limitless power (hence the whole oath and charge with a lantern and why it's called Green Lantern and not Green Ring). I've read the same issues so don't try and BS it. Anti-Monotor jobbed in the Sinestro Corps War. It's pure PIS otherwise. Seriously, take it to Comicvine and ask if Anti-Monitor jobbed in the Sinestro Corps war, most would say he did.

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » Kid Buu vs Hal Jordan

@Newdeath: John never reconstructed an entire solar system. They were just empty constructs devoid of life. Many guys can make empty shells with no complex eco system and even as just shells, the ring couldn't do it. Yes, Buu can survive and reconstruct himself from a single cell much like cell. Shown several time when Buu evil Buu was released and when fat buu was blown to smithereens. I think your also overplaying anti-monitor defense stat too much, he's not that durable compared to some others and has become the biggest jobber since Geoff wrote Sinestro Corps war. AKA PIS

@Greysmokeman: Buu is not a galaxy buster. He's a solar system or even multi solar system buster at best (as are most of the Z fighters at the end of Z with the exception of Vegitto). A galaxy is several hundreds of solar systems or more.

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Battles » Frieza(Dragonball Z)VS Captain Marvel(DC Comics)

Captain Marvel. I argue that technically Captain Marvel should win vs Superman and also DBZ should also win vs. Superman (due to magic weakness, Ki = to magic IMO). Without Supes aversion to magic, Captain Marvel should win in physical feats except in battle speed and battle experience (please, no wisdom of Solomon thing, knowing and doing are 2 different things). He would lose in energy projection.

Fighting smartly Freeza could win but I think the majority goes to Captain Marvel.

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » Kid Buu vs Hal Jordan

@justanormalguy: Because at the point of Buu, Earth busting just doesn't cut it anymore. At Freeza, planet busting has been established. At Cell, sun/star busting is said to be possible.

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » The Akatsuki Vs. Batman

Batman's most dangerous weapon is the Insider Suit. Gives him the powers of most of the JL. It's weakness is that it has a poor power source but it can take any energy blasts and absorb them to re-power the suit (think Dr. Gero absorbing Ki blasts to power-up).

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Battles » Kid Buu vs Hal Jordan

@Destinyheroknight: OK, I stand corrected, still I don't see Hal being able to destroy on a molecular level with Green ring. Lanterns have killed directly (since Sinestro corps war) but there is always a corpse leftover (no molecular destruction) and that just won't do vs. Buu.

That really is the only reason why I give the win to Buu, by pure attrition and limited stamina on the ring. Avatar'd Lantern could for sure do it, multi-ring lanterns could probably do it (not 100% sure, depends on which rings and how many and which character, the have trouble maintaining 2, only possible 1 ring fight is Orange and I would say Orange *should* be able to take it if full powered and wielded with some competency aka, someone smarter than Larfleeze).

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » Kid Buu vs Hal Jordan

This battle IMO comes down to can Hal destroy Buu at a molecular level before he runs out of energy.

I say no so therefore Buu wins. Which side you fall upon the "can Buu break constructs" argument determines the winner. I say he can, while the ring is up, pre-DCnu Jordan wouldn't take any big damage from Buu. Yet I don't believe anything in Jordan's arsenal (1 green ring only) can kill Buu on a molecular level (so that he can't reform, with avatar power or multiple rings, I think he does). Therefore to me, it becomes an endurance test. Jordan being a hero has to worry about how he fights, Buu being evil doesn't. Jordan spends too much power on safeguarding planets/suns and having to play defensive to win.

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Battles » Kid Buu vs Hal Jordan

@MisterShin: Kind of nitpicking some details that don't really need to be nitpicked (like if it was a telekinetic feat or just a physical one becuase it does not matter, he has the ability to exert that type of force not to mention the population of people in DBZ is actually quite small). But gravity in deep space is less than around the atmosphere. In any case, you're both missing terminal velocity (which is to say there is a max velocity and human sized being and shape would reach).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acceleration_due_to_gravity

Best if you 2 look those up. Once again, if any of us had the momentum, we could punch a non orbital, non directional force exerting object with the same devastation as a Super hero due to the constant acceleration due to gravity and terminal velocity (good example of PIS feats are things that break the rules of physics without any explanation - Flash's speed force is a fairly good fictional reason for breaking some rules of physics, Superman holding up a plane when it is crashing is actually a bad feat as anyone doing that is going to crack the plane into two pieces where they grab it).

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » Goku(Dragonball Z)VS Apocalypse(Marvel)

@PikminMania: Awesome, one of them "if i hate it i'll call them emo/fanboy/etc." idiot has arrived!

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » Goku(Dragonball Z)VS Apocalypse(Marvel)

@Butcher_Pete: In this case, I should mean star busting, he's beyond a planet buster since Cell saga. Cell saga is about star busting power limits. What i mean is that the DBZ crew you can reasonably peg at being able to bust stars (and the chain would be collapse a solar system) at the end of Z. I don't think any of the DBZ crew could create an area of effect attack that could bust an entire solar system under it's own power.

I would peg a max ki blast could possibly destroy 2 stars if they were lined up properly but I think beyond that, is stretching it. End of DBZ should be star buster+ (should be able to blow up large stars, our sun is considered a medium) though. Definitely not galaxy buster as Broly fans like to say.

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » Goku(Dragonball Z)VS Apocalypse(Marvel)

Which era Goku vs. which era Apocalypse?

Apocalyse has not shown to be world destroyer level (only conqueror level). Goku at the end is Solar system+ buster.

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Battles » ION Sodam Yat vs Vegito

@Newdeath: Ugh, please don't use the Prime Wall Punch as a feat (it's PIS of the worst kind that it becomes a meme). As is, Prime was beaten by the Teen Titans as well...

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » D (Vampire Hunter D) Runs The Gaunlet

@ReiKai: Nowhere in the opening OP does it say "standing 10 feet apart" and D emits an aura outside of Ki sense. The books have made that much clear where even normals can sense the "danger" of D. The [problem with the hand is that it's not fast. D has FTL reflexes but the hand doesn't

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Battles » Fullmetal Alchemist vs Harry Potter

@Whats_out_the_bag: The first person to pull out insults is getting mad when those are reversed. Go figure.

Post by rpgr (45 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Battles » D (Vampire Hunter D) Runs The Gaunlet

@ReiKai: If Goku is high in the sky there's no way D can peg him with wooden stakes which would just burn up if thrown with full force. Goku can just snipe with both items and ki blasts. The hand doesn't have much in the way of speed feats as it actually has to be aware of things coming at it. You have to remember the hand and D are 2 separate entities (yes, I have all the books too).

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Battles » Supernatural vs Science (READ OP)

@Kuro_San:true dat, missed Constantine. Still the tech is there to make a tech/magic hybrid that turns on it's inventors and stomps all.

I'm just giving a very likely scenario though. There are so many prep masters that the only thing any of them could do is out prep the prep and that would mean the creation of some sort of super monster that kills them all given the personalities involved in this battle.

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