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Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Kyo vs Yusuke

No one in SDK is lightspeed, or even remotely close. Yusuke at EoS is a Mid to High-Tier S-class ranked Demon. A-class have life wiping potential. S-class are planet-busters. Yusuke's fight in the DWT was destroying entire mountain ranges as side-effects of battle. And Yusuke is so hax he created a new 4th form of Energy beyond Spirrit, Demon and Heavenly. This allowed him to basically tie out with Yomi, one of the Three Demon Kings who made Enma (King of the Spirit World) afraid.
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Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

And now Brolly solos the Justice League!
  
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

@taichokage said:

According to those videos it would appear that Broly has the innate ability to travel through different realities at will. Must be a power derived Brolypotence. This is spite.

Indeed.
  
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

@Saiyan007: That's all King Kai said, but he didn't explain how it was done or what was keeping him in the star. Was it a gravity field he couldn't penetrate or an actual prison that was impervious to the stars heat/gravity that prevented him from leaving and from anyone else trying to get him out? Really, they never explained it beyond saying he was trapped there. Even in Movie 5 with Cooler the Sun didn't immediately kill him, and it was being pinned between the Sun and his own attack plus Goku's Kamehameha that killed him.
 
  
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

@Saiyan007: How Bojack was imprisoned and what he was imprisoned in to contain him within that star is never stated. That whole bit was just full of plotholes and lack of explanation. And I have yet to see any point where Bojack started in the Galaxy to reach Earth and no mention of actual distance given nor has anyone even attempted to calculate it. Given SS2 Teen Gohan stomped him would show he's still not as fast as SPC or a SS2.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

@Saiyan007: And by all estimations and calcs so is Cell, and Cell has regeneration whereas Bojack does not. And SPC also seems to have acquired Instant Transmission as well.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

@Saiyan007: Bojack is weaker than SPC and Brolly bitchslaps the both of them.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

@Saiyan007 said:

so wait broly is a galaxy buster?

Yes. you could say 99.99% of the Southern Galaxy was destroyed by Brolly who was in a Restricted form. Restricted being in a Psuedo-SSJ Form caused by the Control Circlet that Restrains his power and prevents him from using his full strength. Which would indicate that an Unrestrained Brolly could do far more with less effort and have far greater results.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » broly vs sailor saturn

@Echelon9: I don't accept character statements. However the Daizenshuu confirmed Cell as a system-buster. That would mean anyone of the same level and above would possess that capacity and more. As for Freeza, he was in base form, as Namek is indicated as 2-3x the size of the Earth. He was also kept as far away as possible by Nail and stalled by him. Freeza was also stunned for about a minute by just seeing the darkening of the sky. If you mean the time he was fighting Goku, Freeza wasn't aware wishes had to be made in Namekian and had no cause to stop Dende there.
 
The guidebooks don't state the cast as hypersonic only, and a number of their techniques translate as "light" attacks. But that doesn't mean much. We have feats and evidence that display and prove speed. I'm not seeing the same from you. Also, absorbing power from a star isn't the same as producing enough force to stop all reactions in the star and destroy it. Ultimately it doesn't even matter, because that level of force by itself, isn't even enough to mark up Brolly's abs.
 
Refer to this: Brolly rapes. There is no other outcome.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

@supernova7005: Actually it says "The Southern Galaxy Has been attacked" as in past tense, it just happened, and the Narrator is referencing the event, to which King Kai immediately reacts to said event. Regardless of the wording, we see first hand what happened. All that remained of the Soutern Galaxy is little more than Crumbs. Every planet Goku visited was a dead world. There was nothing left save what Paragus had preserved for his own reasons.
 
Those videos have been debunked time and again for their faulty reasoning and terrible logic. It's just haters hating.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

@supernova7005: Well if you include the continued game story, Brolly survives being blasted through the sun, heals himself and comes back with a massive zenkai and becomes LSSJ3. Other such stories and "What if" scenarios had him properly killing everyone and going on to destroy the universe.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » broly vs sailor saturn

@Echelon9: What I ignore are Character Statements with no visual evidence to back them. And your personal interpretation of speed is biased, baseless and irrelevant.
 
Ginyu Saga, Burter moved so fast time seemed to slow down for people who were already hypersonic. Goku at the same time moved so fast Burter was completely blitzed by him. Later, Freeza in his final form shot a finger beam so fast that nobody could react as it killed Dende, and Piccolo remarked that all he saw was a brief flash. Some could interpret that as it being a lightspeed attack. I don't, but generally only because I have my own measurements based on earlier evidence. Though it could still have very well been given Piccolo's much earlier efforts against the Moon.
 
I have evidence and calculations based on that evidence. Which I could estimate as being far greater given the nature of the DBU as explained by Akira Toriyama. I'm not because there's simply no need to overly complicate a series that was never meant to be complicated. The simple fact remains that Brolly devastated an entire galaxy in a restricted form, and Sailor Saturn doesn't even have a legitimate star-busting feat, only a Claim of possessing the Capability to do so. Visual Evidence trumps character statements. And unless there's an official guide book to correct this, then as far as it can be shown, Saturn isn't a star-buster.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » broly vs sailor saturn

@Echelon9: I'm still not seeing evidence of any of this at all. You can make all the claims you want, but I'm not seeing any evidence provided that might even remotely prove it. All I see are assumptions.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Broly vs The 4 Heavenly Kings

@taichokage: You should see the DBM Minicomic -> Poor Raditz
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » broly vs sailor saturn

@Echelon9: Yeah we're still not getting any actual figures of time or distance traveled. And saying "Galixia kills as quickly as possible" doesn't mean in seconds. It's dependent on the opponent and it could take Galaxia minutes or even hours depending on the opponent so the term is subjective. We're also not looking for Galaxia's speed, we're looking for Saturn's.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » broly vs sailor saturn

@Echelon9: No, if her trajectory was straight that means there wasn't anything in her path that would impede her, or she just projected a field to push any debris out of her path. And you know you shouldn't just say "It's MFTL!" You should actually do some Math. And you should state, explicitly, how much time elapsed and not say "It took seconds!" How many?
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Asura vs Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann

@321zigzag1: When Asura finally punches Chak, he's only about the size of the dot in the middle of Chak's forehead. Chak is around multi-system or larger in size, relatively. And that's really nothing more than a shell.
Post by ReiKai (3,464 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » Asura vs Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann

@UltimateHero0406: Uh, no. Asura could not obtain Destructor form without first being given the Mantra Reactor. Wyzen refers to Asura as the Destructor, but Asura does not gain nor display that form until After he gets the Mantra Reactor. We see this first hand as Asura opens his chest platings to absorb the energy from Chak's blast directly into the Mantra Reactor embedded in his chest.
  
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