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Battles » Who in anime/manga can defeat Mxy (DC) and Q (ST)?

@machmans: No, DBZ as a whole is mid-tier. And Janemba is a piss-poor reality warper. He couldn't even use it to any effect in combat. The most he ever did was in his giant blob form, and all he managed was a mirrored version of Goku that only lasted for 2sec. The whole part about the Check-in station being warped was because Janemba was tied to it from all the negative energy that was released from it at once. It doesn't help that Janemba has a weakness almost as idiotic as Bio-Brolly's.
 
Also, it does matter how well it does in the US. Because it's a test. A test to see if it's worth for Toei/Funimation to produce it in English. DBZ Kai had been canceled after the Cell Saga because they were showing it on TV and their DVD/BR sales for it were very poor. It's why they didn't do the Buu Saga for TV and instead waited several years and produced it straight to DVD so that anyone that wanted to see it had to buy it. And there is currently no plan to refurbish the GT series.
 
So if we want to see any other DBZ films in the US, Battle of Gods will have to do well in theaters. And if it does, maybe they'll finally give us the Movie Specials with Bardock and Tarble. Hell they only way we even got Hatchiyak was by having to buy the Burst Limit 2 game. Originally that whole "Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans" wasn't even a movie. Well, it was an interactive feature like a game with multiple choices and they would show different outcomes. Kinda like those older D&D CGI movies. I know this because I have some of the original film in subs from then. And that was more than 15yrs ago. Hell I knew about Hatchiyak before most of America did.
 
@FalconC2: You really don't understand anything about the Demonbane series, do you? Also, it has a full manga and light novel series. Mars Demonbane was literally running across multiverses, and that's still an inferior version to EGD. Also, Mxy has his limits. He's still far below the Chousin. Mxy is a 5d-imp, which means anything from the 6th-Dimension and above can kick the $hit out of him. Demonbane exists outside of all Creation and Chaos. Nya creates infinite multiverses in Klein Bottles just to screw with them. And Demonbane has literally destroyed her 400million times with just a glare. EGD is so obscenely powerful that not even TOAA-level figures can ever destroy him. Azathoth cannot get rid of him.
 
Oh yeah, and the Labyrinth that the AS made, was not a multiverse. It was a mental assault, created in their heads, to confuse them, which is made rather clear when they wake up and the AS in humanoid shape is still standing right in front of them just as it had been when the effect started. It was designed to keep their minds trapped so they couldn't fight back. And they all would've lost without Plot-Device Kamina's ghost coming in to give them all a kick in the ass.
 
And the AS wasn't throwing around big bangs. It was chucking galaxies within that space. And the one supposed big-bang level attack would've killed TTGL had Lordgenome not absorbed the energy at the last second. None of that compares to outright reality warping. Remember the Doud? You know, that one guy who wiped out an entire species across the universe in an instant because he went insane? Yeah, that guy could've beaten TTGL just by removing the whole human race from existence. And only he wouldn't because he's a pacifist. Q, on the other hand, could make it so humans never evolved in the first place. Q could go back to the beginning of time and stop the universe from ever being born. The only thing stopping Q from turning the entire universe into one giant anus is the rest of the Continuum telling him no.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Who in anime/manga can defeat Mxy (DC) and Q (ST)?

@FalconC2: Anti-Spiral wasn't creating universes either. Q could manipulate timelines, reshape reality and do all sorts of fancy things. Primarily for his own amusement. Demonbane is EGD. That's what it becomes. And the Shining Trapezohedron erases multiverses just by swinging it. In the animated version Demonbane absorbs two of them and beats Nyarlathotep with it. Nya being far and above Q, Mxy, and the whole Gurren-Lagann series.
 
Oh and at the end of the anime we see the Elder God versions of Daijuuji Kurou and Al Azif. They're on an omniversal scale. Really there's no reason to fight about it. Demonbane jut makes pretty much everything else look like infants by comparison. 
 
@GeneralVan: I don't find anyone in Saint Seiya could beat Mxy, but all their top tiers make the entirety of DBZ look like children wrestling in a play pen. DBZ isn't really high tier. It's more Mid-Tier. Things might only begin changing if Toriyama decides to continue the Battle of Gods story arc. Everything might hinge on how many people go and see it in theaters this week.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Who in anime/manga can defeat Mxy (DC) and Q (ST)?

@GeneralVan: Demonbane becomes EGD, so it really doesn't matter.
@taichokage: I glance in every now and again. Most of it has just seemed the same stuff people have been arguing over for the last few years. So, little change.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Who in anime/manga can defeat Mxy (DC) and Q (ST)?

@FalconC2: uh, Demonbane stomps Mxy. And Anti-Spiral are toolbags who can't even do half of what Q can do with a finger-snap. Mxy is below the Chousin, and Demonbane makes them huddle together in fear. Demonbane beats figures higher up the scale than Mxy with nothing more than a Glare.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Who in anime/manga can defeat Mxy (DC) and Q (ST)?

@SMXLR8: No, TTGL gets smacked silly. Mxy can turn him into a cheesepuff. And Q could literally snap his fingers and turn Simon and his entire team into a fermented gas to make alcohol.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Broly VS Freddy krueger.

This is what happens.
  
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Kami Tenchi vs. Darksied, Superman, and Thor

@ImDictatorBowDown: Kami-Tenchi is TOAA. Tenchi Masaki is his avatar.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Accelerator (to aru majutsu no index) vs Lucy (Elfen lied)

@Dream: Lucy already had unimaginable power. Pushing herself a bit she was generator neutrons, the same energy form created during nuclear fusion. Lucy was so powerful, that a giant dyclonius designed to counter Vectors and nullify them, transformed into a mobile craft, was so terrified of Lucy's power it couldn't even react. Lucy is a global threat and could impede other Vectors. She was destroying missiles and ships miles away without ever having to see them. And apparently her song could be heard across radio frequencies while healing Kouta.
 
Her Vectors weren't as normal. They were quite massive when she was going all out and they affected the wind and atmosphere around them as well. And I believe she did create a 30m tall wave originating in shallow water.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Accelerator (to aru majutsu no index) vs Lucy (Elfen lied)

@Dream
I don't feel Accel can take control or stop all of this at once. And it's quite improbable he'd be able to control her mind. I believe that required physical contact. Also, multiple personalities are quite a bitch to deal with.
 
Again, this is if Lucy goes full Destroyer right from the start. If not, Accel has the higher probability of putting her down.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Accelerator (to aru majutsu no index) vs Lucy (Elfen lied)

Unless of course Lucy's intangible vectors completely pass through his defenses and just carve his body to pieces. Lucy can also just block anything he throws at her. And of course if Lucy goes all out Destroyer Mode, I don't see Accelerator doing anything but being reduced to a smear.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Bills vs SSJ4 Goku

@gokugx: It's a failed, incorrect list of misinformation. None of it is supported. The Wiki puts Buu Saga Goku's power as a SS3 at 460billion. However a page from an official source lists it at 24billion. So, what would I rather believe? A Wiki|Blog with suspect info? Or an Official Source? Cause quite frankly the Official source scales appropriately and those fan-built sites tend to exaggerate grievously.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Bills vs SSJ4 Goku

@gokugx: It's a bullshit wiki with no backing. Most canon PL stated for GT was 1.9billion for Omega Shenron. Noted by Bandai that has shared production and licensing rights with Toe, Funimation, and Viz Media. And since none of the other companies said anything differently, that's as close to a canon figure you'll ever get for GT. Making the entire series ridiculously weak.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Dark Schneider (Bastard!) vs. Tyrant (Marvel)

@DBZ_universe: I never left, I've just been too lazy to do anything here. Also, facepunching people on ComicVine.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Dark Schneider (Bastard!) vs. Tyrant (Marvel)

@taichokage: Thanos being amped or not is actually debatable, as Thanos wasn't there to use it at some weapon. He took Morg's Energy Sphere to tick off Tyrant and so he could study it himself. Thanos kept it to keep Tyrant from eating it and replenishing or juicing himself up. Galactus also has a bigger loss record than wins, and generally due to whatever state of hunger he happens to be in. So whenever someone beats or gives Galactus a hard time, we have a crate of salt ready.
 
The UN can erase the universe if mishandled, or blank the multiverse when in Galactus' hands only. But given Tyrant could be erased by it and that Darsh has several abilities that can erase a persons existence, then I feel that ultimate Darsh would win in the end for having a lot more going for him. Tyrant is a tough bastard, but not terribly smart.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi Team Vs Tenge Tenjou Team

@UltimateHero0406: One thing I noticed is that guy didn't go above super-sonic. He only said "they're getting a little faster now!" which doesn't make them above super-sonic, since super sonic is anything between Mach 1.5 and up to Mach 5. He didn't break super sonic speeds, he only gradually made his attacks a little faster. Which means he could've gone from, say, Mach 2 to Mach 3 steadily. Yet there's no real way to determine that because it doesn't really explain it.
 
As I've said, Bob is the odd man out. He's tough, but not on par with the rest of his team. He's just good for jokes because he does follow the stereotype in that he does have a big schlong and they make a point of showing that in the series. Moreso when making fun of Masataka for being so tiny. Both Bob and his girlfriend, Chiaki, laughed at him for it.
 
Anyway, TT has two people that can predict everything Kenichi's team is going to do and counter Shigure every step of the way. Masataka can take on Kenichi, and Souichiro can pretty much solo if he goes all out.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Dark Schneider (Bastard!) vs. Tyrant (Marvel)

@taichokage: Thanos wasn't the Avatar at the time. He was just barred from Death as punishment. It's more accurate to say Thanos stalemated Tyrant, and then left because he got what he wanted, leaving Tyrant very upset .
 
As for the fight, Darsh wins. Tyrant has very few showings. He's mostly just raw power and control over meta-technology I believe. Tyrant's not a smart fighter. Darsh's hax can actually guard against most of what Tyrant can dish out, and worse comes to worse, he has Blood Stone which would F**K Tyrant up royally.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Bayonetta vs Laharl (Disgaea)

Isn't Bayonetta planet-level and Laharl, like Galaxy or Multi-Galaxy level? Last I checked Laharl was rather beastly.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi Team Vs Tenge Tenjou Team

@UltimateHero0406

Why do you keep making it sound like supersonic means something to Shigure?

Because it actually does. Shigure is only a touch faster than the guy she's facing in those scans and apparently needed to get in close to strike him with any meaning. He's also only using one arm to attack, while Kagane chased and struck at Aya with dozens of high-velocity blades at the same time. And Aya was still able to break or deflect them, as well as carve up the roof top to throw him off balance. And as I mentioned before, Kagane was just testing her, and Aya was aware that if he had been serious, he could've killed her easily.

And while I admit that Nagi can win, don't underestimate the masters. They can trash buildings with just the shockwaves from their attacks. Their durability is much higher than your giving them credit for.

Oh I'm not underestimating them. I was just cutting to the heart of the matter. Aya, Maya and even Masataka will give them quite a few issues. Masataka became pretty tough by the end, and Bob improved quite a bit 5yrs later and can break Makoto's steel chain blades by just kicking them. He's still the weakest member of the group, but he could cause trouble. Bob could also just drop his pants and Kenichi would kill himself due to his sheer inadequacy.
 
Maya and Aya both have the Ryuugan, so they already can keep up with the team, and Maya's Amaterasu Gate can be used to diminish or even negate their ki.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi Team Vs Tenge Tenjou Team

@UltimateHero0406: This isn't building level. And so far, you haven't shown me anything regarding Shigure. Not that it matters. Those were multiple super-sonic swords, and Aya did break them all that came at her. And, once more, Kagane was just testing her. He wasn't even going all out. And wouldn't until he faced Souichiro later, at which point he merged with his sister to try and kill Souichiro, only to be utterly demolished by him.
 
Fu Chien released enough ki to destroy a city block. What Souichiro was going to unleash in his rage, would be enough to obliterate an entire city. The building was being destroyed with just his aura, just what he was emitting from his body. It wasn't even attack. Had it not been for Maya's Amaterasu Gate, Souichiro would've pulled a King Piccolo and killed everyone along with the city.
 
Honestly, these guys can't even get close to Souichiro without dying. He could kill them all in three seconds, then bring them back to life.
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