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Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

@Okami:  The fact is that it's the same thing as religion. The way you are explaining it it sounds like a belief system, in which case I call in the Gods that the white mages and summoners are always praying to.
 
Except it's not religion. It's fact. The chars themselves learn all of this as fact. The Old Gods are real. They are fought by the Dragonflights. Sargeras is real. He has destroyed countless worlds across the universe. The Titans are real. They Created life across the universe and continue to do so. Algalon the Observer is a Herald of the Titans and he is visited in Ulduar. You don't seem to get it. This all happened for them. It's not just stories, it's all true in WoW. You even meet Gods and Demigods. Cenarius himself is a Demigod, the child born of Melorne, the White Stag who is a greater woodland deity, and Elune, the Moon Goddess to whom many worship across the world, especially the Night Elves.
 
Paladins and Priests believe in "The Light", which you could take as religion, except for the fact they actually gain powers through their training as the Light is an actual presence in the universe that is served by and exists as part of the Naaru, a race of crystaline-energy beings that first visited the Draenei over 10-thousand years ago, many many centuries before even the Burning Legion's first invasion of Azeroth.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

That's impossible as they don't. It doesn't matter since the Lore tells you everything and, as I've already shown, Algalon's statements confirm it all. They don't do anything on panel because had they actually appeared again, the World would've been wiped clean and reshaped all over again in an instant. Bio's and History are all taken as Canon and fact. You can try and deny what they have been stated as doing all you want, but fact is, it's not changing anything. They are stated as having that kind of power, which means nothing else is needed.
 
If you really need a visual, then by all means. Here is Sargeras, the fallen Bronze Titan.  
 
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

Meaning you're too lazy to do it. If you haven't read the books then you simply don't know anything. Incidentally, just watch the videos. By Algalon's own statements, he says the Titans have wasted entire worlds instantly. That's far beyond anything in the FF-verses.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

I've shown them. Watch the video. Cataclysm is Deathwing sundering the whole world. Sin can't even do that. Bahamut is weak-sauce. Sephy couldnt' do anything on his own and Safer Sephiroth doesn't really have any feats (Super-nova is a fluff attack, it never actually occurs). Ner'zhul, via a ritual, caused the destruction of a planet and he was just a powerful Warlock at the time. You want major feats, you need to read the novels, check the WoW site for lore, or confirm lore within WoW itself. Statements made by figures in WoW still hold true. The Manga states the Titans created over 100 million worlds before Azeroth, which has been more or less confirmed by Algalon the Observer in Ulduar.
 
                
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Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

If she wanted, meaning she has no reason to unless it's necessary, and she threw such things at Deathwing several times, the first few when she had been reduced to 1/5th of her full power, the other time she messed him up in Day of the Dragon when the full power of the Aspects were restored. Even when reduced to a mere fraction of her power, when Ysera opened her eyes in War of the Ancients, rows upon rows of demons turned and fled in absolute terror from what they were seeing.
 
Okami: 
Why is it that level 15 noobs need to do quests for level 80 guardians? You can't honestly take this seriously.  
 
Because that's game mechanics and that's just the Game part. You, the player, have nothing to do with the story. All you're doing is following it. Much of the manga actually explains this by giving the story and events that take place. In Dec they released "WoW Death Knight" which is a manga telling the tale of Thaurassian, a Death Knight. All the trials you go through as a Death Knight in WoW is what he experienced, only in further detail, up until the Death Knights of Ebon Hold are freed from the Lich King's control at Light's Hope Chapel. You further follow his tale into Northrend where his sister learns he's still alive (so to speak) and tries to find him. You, the player, do quests to that effect.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

And none of'em have the kind of power that WoW has. Also, you have no idea how powerful Ysera is. If she really wanted to she could destroy your mind and soul from the Emerald Dream, which is basically a mental/spiritual realm created by the Titans which shows the world in its truest, purest and most perfect state. It's effectively a blueprint of the worlds perfection. If she wanted to she could flip one of the infinite layers of the Emerald Dream to show a section of imperfection as before the Titans changed it and toss your spirit in there and leave it lost for eternity. That's something that Cernarius warned Malfurion to be wary of.
 
Or, if she was really ticked off, Ysera could make you suffer the worst nightmares of every living thing, from all races and creatures, from the beginning of conscious thought all the way to Now, at the Same Time, All at Once. In other words, your brain explodes before you even have a chance to suffer the soul-searing agony of your consciousness being bombarded, shattered, ripped apart and destroyed simultaneously.
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Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

Thrall is badass. As it stands he's the most powerful Shaman in WoW history, even moreso than Ner'zhul before he went Warlock and became the Lich King. Part of WoW in the Caverns of time is stopping the Infinite Dragonflight from screwing up various points of the timeline, one point being Thrall's escape from Durnholde. As explained by the Bronze Dragons who guard and correct instances in time, should any of those events be changed, the universe would end. All of which are plots by the Old Gods who're using Deathwing as a pawn and have been for thousands of years. It took a race of Cosmic beings to lock away the Old Gods. FF is kinda lacking in that department.
 
                
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Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

No, I mean beings. WoW is more than just the players. Many people you meet/do quests for in the game appear in the novels, comics, lore and other such things. You, the player, are just merely following along with the story. You should try reading the lore. I can tell ya right now; Ysera, the Aspect of Dreams, would rape most of the FF series with mental attacks.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

Maybe you should just try playing the game, reading the lore, novels, manga, comics, etc. Or even just watch some of the videos.
 
                
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

*scorches glove*
 
Sin is worthless. One of the least-powerful entities in the FF series. What's the best he did? Ruins the world once every few centuries, gets beaten by a summoner and revives self via possessing an Aeon and its summoner, and got permanently put down when all the Aeon's were destroyed/sealed. Deathwing sunders the whole planet in Cataclysm.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

Sin isn't impressive at all. He gets put down pretty easily.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

You'd have to prove your statements. Base Kefka isn't even worth mentioning. God Kefka gets taken out by any number of other beings.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

Take out some? They're gonna need everything they've got. Sargeras, the Fallen Titan turned Dark God of the Twisting Nether who commands the Burning Legion destroys the world by just setting foot on it. A number of WoW mages and magical figures can rip people apart with hand gestures. Literally. As in your whole body gets ripped in half. More skilled people like Khadgar can absorb pure magical attacks (meaning non-specific element). I know some FF-verses have Reflect which can reflect spells, but only a certain number. Warriors can do the same thing with their shields.
 
Ultimecia with her TIme Compression could be a problem, but then there's Nozdormu who literally kept the universe from collapsing by holding together All Time by the skin of his teeth, which had been unraveling due to a plot by the Old Gods in their bid for freedom.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » final fantasy universe vs World of Warcraft universe

No, he couldn't. Normal Sephy definitely won't. WoW has so many people and so much magic and GAR that Sephy would fail rather readily, despite his speed WoW has people who can cast spells with a thought and other people who're blatantly super-human as well. Sephy had to absorb the Life Stream to do anything major. Ragnaros the Firelord, when he emerged from the Elemental Plane, he tore up a whole area of the world and created what is now known as the Burning Steppes as well as Blackrock Mountain. He literally sundered the land and created a chain of mountains and kills just by appearing. And Ragnaros was just one of several Elemental Lords that serve the Old Gods.
 
Trance Kuja could cause some severe harm if they just let him do as he pleases, but he hasn't shown any kind of mental resistance and there are tons of figures in WoW who could mindrape the living hell out of him or even stop him in time, or speed/reverse age him to infancy/dust. Nozdormu is the Aspect of Time, he exists infinitely across Time as a part of it. Nozdormu knows the exact moment he will die, because the Titans are the ones who showed him, and it was to teach him a lessen that even he cannot change his destined fate. The Titans and the Pantheon are cosmic beings who go across the WoW-verse creating and spreading life across the cosmos and have been for untold ages. Entire planetary-systems are born and given life in an instant by them. And the only ones to pose a threat to the Titans are the Old Gods.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » who can beat Kami Tenchi?

Kratos in the GoW games is nothing more than just a stand-in for Hercules, only meaner. Spartan's are, according to them, the descendants of Hercules, and Zeus is known to knock-up damn near anything when the mood strikes him (which is often), and it was revealed that Kratos is Zeus' bastard child (like 10% of the wordly population, including animals). The thing is, when you start mixing mythos to try and re-tell stuff, people are just gonna go "fuck you for being unoriginal". They're just trying to freshen up the Bible by makebelieving new crap about.
 
Far as I know for Christianity, there are 3 places the dead go; Heaven, Hell and Purgatory. From what that whole clip is saying, everyone who dies or has died becomes equally saved from death, which includes rapists, murderers, pagans, nazi's, genocidal whackos and even your uncle-bunking uncle Frank. To which, I'd say to Jesus; "WTF is wrong with you?!"
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » who can beat Kami Tenchi?

You see, that makes no sense though since Hades is a Greek Deity and shouldn't even appear in Christian mythology. The guys on the history channel have nothing to do anymore and are just slapping mythos together to try and make things interesting. It's just their interpretation of what they're reading. Hades is just lord of the Underworld who oversees the dead. The Fates decide when someone dies and Thanatos, the God of Death, is the True Death. It also doesn't make sense given that there are Angels of Death and Archangels, a whole hierarchy of Heaven. Nephilim, Cherubim, Seraphim. Uriel is the Angel of Death.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » who can beat Kami Tenchi?

even weaker than normal Jesus.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » who can beat Kami Tenchi?

Not that high dude.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » who can beat Kami Tenchi?

Schrodinger Alucard is not invincible. It just means the only way to permanently destroy him is to remove him Time, something any number of beings are fully capable of. By estimations, the highest level Alucard may personally be at is city-busting level. That's it.
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Battles » who can beat Kami Tenchi?

No, not even cosmic Aunt May.
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