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Battles » SSJ Gotenks vs SSJ3 Goku

@hitsusatsu11: That's usually because they spent the full year training in there, to my understanding Gotenks and Piccolo did not spend the full year in there.

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Battles » SSJ Gotenks vs SSJ3 Goku

@DBZ_universe: But this isn't ssj3 gotenks though.

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Battles » SSJ Gotenks vs SSJ3 Goku

@DBZ_universe: Unless Zenkai was involved I don't really see a difference in the outcome.

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Battles » Midora Vs Super Saiyan God Goku Vs Bronze Cloth Seiya

@othus12 said:

@Redmonkeyssj4: he's talking about potency.

Yeah, and I'm talking about scans that show them being that potent.

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Battles » Itachi Uchiha vs Byakuya Kuchiki (With Specifications)

@GIRUGAMESH said:

then Byakuya is probably the strongest captain alive.

That would be Kenpachi my friend.

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Battles » Midora Vs Super Saiyan God Goku Vs Bronze Cloth Seiya

@flashback180 said:

i'll go with the guy who is actually capable of busting a galaxy, taken galaxy level attack to his face and is MFTL .

Scans of this happening, AND the attack actually busting a galaxy.

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Battles » 1000 Brolys VS Ajimu.N (Medaka Box).

1000 Galaxies will be destroyed.

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Battles » SSJ Gotenks vs SSJ3 Goku

SSJ3Goku stomps this. Ssj Gotenks was getting handled by Fat Buu while ssj3 goku was handling fat buu himself.

Post by Redmonkeyssj4 (21 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Aizen vs Gin

Aizen
Aizen
Gin
Gin

- Aizen does not have hogyoku.

-Gin DOES know the secret to Aizen's shikai

-No Kido, zanpakutos only.

-Win by death,K.O., or BFR

-Fight takes place in Karakura Town

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Sousuke Aizen » Aizen's Zanpakuto

Ok, we all know Aizen's zanpakuto's power is complete hypnosis, and the only way to fall victim to it is to look at it. Making Ichigo one of the only people to be unaffected by it. Does this have a limit, there are several who I'm sure he could have used it on numerous times. It seems to have not affected Urahara, Isshin, Yoruichi, and Ichigo. Those four have all been at one point a potential victim of kyoka suigetsu. Yet none of them seem to be phased by it. Also, did Ichigo become too strong for it to effect him, because I'm pretty sure he has glanced at it more than once during his final battle with Aizen.

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Battles » Ichigo vs Dante

Sorry I messed up I did this on my phone. Adding op....

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Battles » Ichigo vs Dante

Ichigo Kurosaki
Ichigo Kurosaki
Dante
Dante

-Fight takes place in los noches

- Win by death, K.O., or BFR

-Ichigo can use Vasto Lorde Form (but cannot control it) it is also his peak in this battle.

This IS DMC dante from the game. I just liked the picture.

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Battles » Omega Shenron vs Bills

@5th Gogeta however "DID" intend to finish Omega with one Big Bang Kamehameha, and Omega did survive.

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Battles » Omega Shenron vs Bills

Contrary to popular belief, I'm gonna go with Omega. Just "saiyan", I think Omega tanking a full powered Big Bang Kamehameha from "SSJ4" "GOGETA" is > Bills fooling around with ssj3 goku.

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Battles » Omega Shenron vs Bills

Years later, Goku and Vegeta are lost in battle at the hands of Omega. Some time later Bills awakens from his slumber looking for a good challenge, he flies to earth after hearing about Goku only to find out he had already met his fate to another foe, encountering Omega Shenron believing him someone he can go all out on.

-Win by Death, K.O., BFR

-Location Earth

Post by Redmonkeyssj4 (21 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Baby Vegeta vs Brainiac

-Takes place on Earth

-Win by Death,K.O., or BFR

-Neither can take control of either.

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Battles » Athena(Saint Seiya) vs Shazam

Win by, Death, K.O., or BFR.

Post by Redmonkeyssj4 (21 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Aang vs Natsu

Win by Death,K.O., or BFR.

Post by Redmonkeyssj4 (21 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » SS4 Gogeta vs Saint Seiya

That's awesome, no one is even going to "attempt" to counter my argument. >.>

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Battles » SS4 Gogeta vs Saint Seiya

The following basically talks about Goku's power level and then ties it in with Gogeta.

With the way power levels increase in DBZ, by the end of the Frieza saga Goku was likely capable of mass destruction on a galactic scale. Which brings me to my next point. Some will call this next point non-canon in the extreme as this is a movie reference. If you wish to do that, that's your choice. I do believe the movies follow the same "rules" as the anime/manga though. There is actually one power level stated to be higher than SS Frieza saga Goku. According to V-Jump magazing, LSS Broly has a power level of 1.4 billion.

Broly destroys the entire South Galaxy in his movie. That's a rather misleading term though, and probably doesn't mean what you think it does. In real life, a galaxy is 50-100 billion planets. There are about 600 sextillion planets in the observable universe. The South Galaxy in DBZ is not a typical real life galaxy, it is one quarter of the universe. So assuming our universes are the same size, Broly destroyed about 150 sextillion planets in one blast. I believe it's been shown that at higher super saiyan forms, possibly as early as FPSS, Goku is stronger than Broly. As a super saiyan 3, Goku is certainly more powerful than Broly, and super saiyan 3s have been shown to be able to break the laws of reality. So it's likely that SS3 Goku could destroy the universe, maybe even reality itself. How fast is Goku though? Well, there's only two good events that you can use to measure speed in DBZ. One is the kamehameha wave from Cooler's Revenge. In about 10 seconds, Goku's kamehameha wave reached from the Earth to the Sun, making it about 50 times faster than the speed of light. Therefore, anyone that can dodge SS1 Goku's kamehameha wave, or even see it, has to be at least 50 times faster than the speed of light. Why is seeing it important? In DBZ, there are many times that the characters move faster than other characters can see. So basically, any villain post SS1 that can keep up with Goku can move at least 50 times faster than lightspeed.

The other case is a little more extreme though. When Vegeta uses The Final Flash against Cell. It's clearly shown that his blast leaves our solar system and explodes on a far away planet/star. The closest planet to our solar system is 10.5 lightyears away. That's 31556926 light seconds. It got there in only 20 seconds, therefore The Final Flash moves at least 1577846.3 times faster than lightspeed. And that was just ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta. Keep in mind perfect Cell saw this attack coming, yet is unable to see SS2 Gohan's movements. And SS3 Goku is obviously far stronger and faster. I don't think Goku would even need to transform to beat Pre Crisis Superman. He could likely kill him with a single finger. To put another nail in the coffin though, let's talk about fighting skills.

Goku is a world champion martial artist that continuously trains to better himself. Many times he has fought evenly with beings of similar or greater power.If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 OCTOSEXAGINTILLION TIMES OVER. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT, and by then ssj4 Goku=ssj4 Vegeta< ssj4 Gogeta.....point proven.

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