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Battles » Sailor Galaxia vs Goku (Super Saiyan God)

@Theorder14:

Also, Goku CAN survive in space, proof is that he fought Bills in space and Akira consider the movie canon. And how would Frieza know weather Saiyans can survive in space or not? Do you have the official translation of Frieza saying he can't? all i got is this. He said, can you? with other words, Frieza himself isn't certain.Even if Namek Goku wouldn't be able to survive in space, there's no doubt Bills Saga can

As we can see here in the scan on the left hand side Frieza is quoted saying: "I wont die... but you will!" FOLLOWED by the line "I can breath in space.. can you?" this was more of a sarcastic remark than or unsure assumption you your could argue that.

I don't doubt Goku can survive in space but I wouldn't go by that scan for proof he can.

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Battles » Avatar Aang Vs. Edward Elric

You guys are off topic! This is in clear violations of the standard Anime Vice battle thread rules! All joking aside, Ed won?

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Battles » 4 Heavenly Kings vs Dio,Kars, Yoshikage Kira, and Diavolo

Well, I think Kars and Dio would be enough to solo, Dio was calced to have triple digit terraton time-stop damage, that's county busting, and there is nothing they can do to Kars as he would adapt to everything they did and can reform from simple air bubbles, I remember a thread where he was able to adapt to even Barragan's respira, the both also have faster than light reactions and combat speed.

The only problem I see is the range, since I don't think anyone on the Jojo side is tanking knife and fork or anything else except Kars.

However with both Dio and Diavolo being able to bypass that I don't see it a problem, Diavolo can pretty much protect his entire team and with 3 hours prep Diavolo's future readings will give him what he needs to know. Not to mention Yoshikage kira can use Another One Bites the Dust and rewind time 24 hours is things get messy, and his ability would even take out Mount Turtle with no problem, Killer Queen will bypass all their defense and everyone on this team has FTL combat and reactions speed.

So given the hax and the superior combat and versatility of team 2...

They wins with mid-low difficulty!

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Battles » Funny Valentine VS Z fighters

@5th: Well, that's not what I meant by reality warping, Apollo's techniques wouldn't work since it wont cancel neither Love Train nor Funny Valentine's ability to hope to other realities. Hades would be able to had he not needed to use use own universe, Funny V. while love train is active is in a rip in space, and at anytime can dimension hop. What a lot of them do is like Dr. Manhattan on steroids, lot exactly what I mean because those are only means to rid the world of Funny V. not get past Love train. Creating a universe with life and such and then being able to will it away with thought, not power could do it so then yes. So I digress, I think he can take on Gold Saints but not all the Gods at once, maybe if it were gauntlet style. I viewed the Naruto forums and a user ironically named Josuke Higashikata made this same battle so I'm just seeing how it goes over there, but for now I say he loses against the whole verse after a good fight. And if their hax can really get past Love train they can win, I read Saint Seiya last summer so I actually remember most of the feats you are talking about. But for now I will give it to SS until someone else wants to make an argument. But also normal means of defense wont work against D4C's ability since two of the same people simply cannot exist in the same universe, the moment they meet they cease to exist. For example, Kreios' ability would be able to kill him since it is more like matter manipulation and would be redirected.

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Battles » Funny Valentine VS Z fighters

@SpeedForceSpider: Well yes, unless the made him think of goods things then no, but if they tried to just destroy his mental state of being if would simply be directed at someone else across the globe, they would need to get rid of Lucy (Who is not in this battle.) in order to do anything to him. Love Train is a gap in space that only Funny V can access and step into, any and everything unfortunate that would happen to President Valentine is redirected and replaced with good fortune. It would be like dropping an $600 phone and then picking it up to not only find that the phone not only looks as new as when you bought it, but there is also a forgotten winning lottery ticket with no name on it, meanwhile, somewhere across the globe, someone else's phone just shatters and then all 100 of their lottery tickets get destroyed or turn out to be losing ones and ect. This is why Love train is broken, because while they are trying to hurt him all they do is destroy random people and then Funny V calmly goes into any of his limitless universes and brings out any version of any of the Saints and causes them to be erased from existence, he only needs to keep this up until they are all gone. Hell at one point even gravity was shifting in his favor while he was chasing after Gyro and Johnny; trees, rocks and whatever else in nature were actually moving in his favor and blocking Gyro and Johnny's path. That is the kind of power it has, it's one of the most broken powers in shonen, luckily it's not really his power, not to give spoilers but without Love Train that guy can be beaten by HST high tiers most likely lower than that, I mean a gunshot can kill him (Well, it can kill any Stand user but you know what I mean).

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Battles » Funny Valentine VS Z fighters

@SpeedForceSpider: That wont work, like I said it would have to be something that could get rid of Love Train in order for it to mean victory, Funny V. can simply cross dimensions to get right back to where the fight is at, trying to escape or trap him is almost useless since his ability alone allows him to create and pass through dimensions. Not to mention that Stands can only be effected by Stands unless you are a high level reality warper.

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Battles » Funny Valentine VS Z fighters

@5th: No, any high level reality warper could easily take him out, hell people from his own series can take him out(GER, Tusk Act 4, Stairway to Heaven.) Considering reality warping would be misfortune however if they simply willed away Love Train and then Funny Valentine, or GER who can reduce anything, even a person's will to 0 and can exist outside of space and time as well as having infinite stats, that would mean instant death for Funny V, however against regular beefsticks like DBZ and Saint Seiya he simply can't lose with Love Train Active. Unless the reality warping was something like setting him on fire, or blowing him up or something, only then can he resist it, but simply willing him away from existence or something crazy like that will more than do, I doubt you even need high level reality warping. He is broken, not unbeatable, this is simply a bad matchup for the Saints.

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Battles » Funny Valentine VS Z fighters

@SpeedForceSpider: By himself, Valentine get's stomped horribly, but with Love Train active there is really nothing they can do to him all they will do is end up sending the misfortune of all their attacks around to each other, even blowing up the galaxy since it has been proved and stated stands like that have a universal effect. Therefor things like Galaxia explosion would not even blow up the planet Valentine is on so long as it would bring him misfortune I.e. dying in space. They would likely just end up killing each other, then Valentine makes a parallel dimension and and brings out copies of all the saints and erases them from existence. Love Train is crazy broken, it required an almost equally broken and very situation technique just to counter it. Not to mention if he is in danger he will just hop to another universe/dimension and bring out another copy of himself or any other fighter who can help him. It also doesn't matter how fast they are since all he has to do is bring out another copy of them and have them face each other in any way and they will simply cease to exist. The copies he brings out don't attack him usually either.

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Battles » Ringo Rodagain VS Kenshin Himura

@bowstaff54: He is a minor antagonist in part 7 of jojo's Bizarre adventure: Steel Ball Run, he is a very sick man but is also an expert gunslinger and as I posted above, he can rewind time for six seconds. At one point he was ambushed by three people and got his hand cut off, he simply rewind time back 6 seconds and while they were dazed from confusion he opened fire on them resulting in the main character getting a bullet to the head. Not surprised not many people know about him, Jojo is already a sorta underground manga so putting a minor character like Ringo out there is kinda surprising, nonetheless it's refreshing to see new characters.

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Battles » Ringo Rodagain VS Kenshin Himura

Well if Kenshin can instantly kill him he wins, but with 6 feet apart from someone with a good quickdraw and a 6 shooter that will be hard, and you know, he has this...:

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Battles » Funny Valentine VS Z fighters

@SpeedForceSpider said:

I beat this guy is still gonna win due to hax.

I'll put it this way: it required the power of the super spin (A rotation with infinite energy) and a instantly fatal gunshot wound to kill him. Keep in mind that what Johnny used to kill him completely bypassed his dimension hopping. So yeah, not sure what the DBZ guys do, since they can't blow up the planet (Not that it matters, he would just hope to another dimension.) and speed is equal (again, since Love Train is already active, it wont matter.) Also, I forgot my objections... also, in the thread I posted above one of the characters pointed at a star and it blew up, yet Funny V. won, that or it was a draw, either way that was just him vs the whole verse.

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Battles » Funny Valentine VS Z fighters

You put a guy who can solo Saint Seiya and won a fight against the Medaka Box Universe http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=820153

Against DBZ, with speed equal. Love Train allows any all all misfortune to be placed away somewhere else no matter what. The only reason he lost was due to the Johnny, Gyro, and Trish getting rid of it before taking out President Valentine. In addition, Funny Valentine's power allows him to cross other dimension, what he does is cross into another dimension, find an alternate version of whoever he is fighting, bring that person out into the present dimension and when He can pull out an alternate version of them and make them contact with one another, causing both to be erased from existence in that world. Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap's power is hopping through parallel worlds, its how he drew out an alternate note, DIEGO Brando, not Dio Brando, who possessed the Stand, The World which can stop time

He can also use this to possess his alternate incarnations in other worlds to heal any damage done to him.

as for love train:

  • D4C - Love Train: An ability given to Valentine from Lucy's Stand. Her body generates a gap in space that sends misfortune elsewhere, leaving only good fortune. Using D4C, Valentine can enter this space, causing any attack aimed at him to be directed at someone else across the globe. This makes Valentine effectively invincible. It apparently allows him to easily travel along the ground, shown when he pursues Johnny and Gyro under the train tracks, and across a grassy field. Due to Lucy's stand's ability, objects continuesly move closer to her, including trees, signs, and even the oceans. These shifts in position seem to favor Valentine.

Besides being invincible to attacks while within the gap in space, D4C can make even its most insignificant attacks fatal. Any wound would rise up the body and eventually reach a vital spot before dealing damage. A scratch or bite on the finger can become a scratch on the heart.

This ability can only be used a certain distance from Lucy, so if she is moved, then he is forcibly pulled with her. However, gravity is constant for Valentine when he travels between dimensions, making it a power capable of traveling with Valentine that can affect him inside the gap. This keeps him from breaking into pieces and becoming scattered across the different worlds.

And even if he is fatally injured he can simply bring out another version of himself from another universe.

as for a better analysis of his power

  • Dimension Hopping: Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap allows different parallel worlds/dimensions to co-exist at the same time and/or in the same place. It also allows its user to visit these parallel worlds/dimensions and interact with them. Valentine travels by being closed between two objects. Liquid materials such as water count as objects as well.

Valentine can even pull other people to other dimensions by forcing them between two objects. Valentine usually performs the latter by slamming a door on them while they are backed against a wall. However, as no two versions of the same person can co-exist in the same dimension, one of them will have to go back into their own. If not, if they get too close to each other, both will crumble, splitting into several cubes and ceasing to exist. This rule does not apply to Funny Valentine as he has D4C.

If Funny Valentine becomes injured, he can hop into another dimension and move his consciousness to the body of that dimension's Funny Valentine, thus nullifying all his wounds. This ability makes him nigh invincible, since the only way to truly defeat him is to kill him with one blow. Furthermore, he can summon his alternate selves into his dimension to outnumber his opponents, each of which also has its own D4C.

Keep in mind that he was beaten by an attack that required infinite energy, not to spoil it for anyone but he didn't really die instantly from that, not to mention all the other things they had to do.

Really, add that to the fact that only Stands can see and hurt other Stands, this is a stomp, there is nothing they can do to hurt him with Love Train active, and since Lucy is not in the battle they can't take her out either.

Also an example of his dimensions

And Love train:

Not a scratch as you see the attacks seemingly go through him.

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Battles » Josuke Higashikata VS. Sousuke Aizen

Another jojo fan! Yeah the manga is great too, sadly Josuke is not even the most hax, Killer Queen, Gold Experience, Stairway to Heaven, C-moon, Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, King Crimson, Weather Report, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Heaven's Hate, plus more are way more overpowered. But yes, I like Josuke.

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Battles » Fugo Pannacotta VS. Obito Uchiha

I gotta go win Obito or a draw, While Obito will most likely die no matter what, however the poison take 30 second to kill not only that but the infeccted part can simply be taken off, however since it is a Stand injury it is arguable if Obito would notice or could do that, still, if Obito simply warps behind Fugo, then Purple Hazr wont react fast enough to just grab him, even if he surrounds himself in the poison Obito can fight the pain and warp him.

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Battles » Okuyasu Nijimura vs Yamamoto Genryusai

The only problem I see for Okuyasu is the intense heat, he is a normal human with Stand powers, Yamamoto's heat was dryin up everything, Okuyasu would have to end the match fast for him to win, otherwise he simply dies from a heat stroke. Other than that he would win since his Stand was able to fight on par with Josuke's FTL Stand, it can also erase space meaning Yamamoto's defense is useless, add in that Okuyasu can freely erase the space around him to teleport or draw Yamamoto closer and then wipe off his head. Or Okuyasu could simply wipe away space and take Yamamoto's zanpakuto and erase it and then that will make it easier for him.

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Battles » The Ginyu Force VS The Annihilators

Silver Surfer solos easily, I don't think I need to make a case why.

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Battles » Diavolo VS. Barragan Luouisenbairn

Barragan loses 8/10 times, Diavolo can predict exactly 10 seconds into the future and skip time by 10 seconds, Barragan will litterally be able to do nothing as he can't hurt or see or defeat the Stand no matter what and while time is being erased only Diavolo can move, he can go right past Barragan's aging effects and punch his head off with King Crimson, add in that he is FTL and about as strong as Star Platinum, I don't see how Barragan is ever going to hit someone that will know what he will do every 10 seconds and then erase time.

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Battles » Josuke Higashikata VS. Sousuke Aizen

As hax as Aizen is, he is up against someone who is FTL and can bypass the whole immortality thing with his own hax. Crazy Diamon can revert things back to their original state or "Fix" however Josuke sees fit. Stands can also only be seen, hurt, or defeated by other Stands, so Aizen would have to try to kill Josuke which will be hard since he does not have KS or flight. Hado and kido don't mean anything since Aizen will never have the time to react, the only real disadvantage Josuke has is his range of about 2-3 meters, but since Aizen in right in his rang there is nothing he can do, add in the fact that they are in a city and Josuke is pissed, I see Josuke simply using his ability and either:

A: Reverting Aizen back into nothing but Reishi

B: Defusing him with the hyogoku and then beating him to death

C: Using his ability to make Aizen become part of the city, be it part of the road, the building, whatever.

Josuke is seriously one broken character, I would go with Aizen if he has KS, was at least 10 or more feet away and had flight. Josuke could simply punch any kido he does and revert it back into simple reishi. Josuke has also shown the ability to punch raw energy as well as slice Air bombs in two. His Stand is as durable as Star Platinum who was able to take attacks from someone stronger than the guy who could easily punch diamond hard boulder sized teeth into pieces with ease. Not that durability matter since Aizen will never be able to hurt it. The guy fought an opponent who was the speed of light and was zooming around him, Josuke simply turned the cement ground back into wet cement and then reverted it back, thus trapping the opponent.

Horrible match-up for Aizen, change the rules and I will go the other way.

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Battles » Red Hulk VS Younger Toguro

It amazes me how long this battle has been going on...

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