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Minato Namikaze » Why Minato Might Have Been Strongest Hokage

@HAVICKGREEN said:

But Hashi cant stop Minato from Teleporting. Even if he uses a wood clone Minato blitzes Hashirama tries to bind he Teleports away. Not to mention Minato has clones aswell.

Actually, he can. Hashirama's Mokuton is capable of absorbing chakra as it is basically a mini-Shinju. And Minato stated himself when the Shinju first broke out that he would not be able to utilize his Hiraishin with the wood branches leeching up his chakra. With his chakra being directly disturbed, and seeing as Hiraishin needs proper chakra control for it to transport an object through space to a mark's location, Minato actually would be unable to teleport.

And apparently people in the past seem to loose to modern people on the battlefield. I mean look at the whole war arc. All the edos lost plus Kaguya. Don't forget Minato faught a war basically by himself taking forces with ftg and other unknown methods.

As if those "past people" were anywhere near as war veterans as Tobirama, Hashirama, and Madara were. Those three literally spent decades of their lives fighting in war zones on a regular basis. This was back in the First Shinobi World War which is stated to be the most chaotic time of the Shinobi Era. Plus if past people lost to modern people, it'd be because modern people >>>>>> past people in numbers. We're looking at about a dozen Edos vs. 100,000 shinobi? Clear diversity disadvantage there.

All Minato did was kill a batallion of fodders who had no knowledge on Minato's abilities, with the help of his squadmates to throw the kunai. Sandaime Raikage did better by smashing his way through 10,000 shinobi over a period of three days. Nidaime Mizukage also solo'ed hundreds of shinobi in a very short timespan with his genjutsu. Pretty much proves that taking out armies of ninja is a standard high Kage-level feat. It's not like Hashirama is incapable of taking out more ninja than any of the other three did. This is the same guy who fought his equal for an entire 24-hour day while destroying terrains and still came out as the victor.

Also can't Minato sense wood clones with Sage Mode. I forgot if Sage Mode allows you to.

Sensing doesn't help him. Not even Madara who is an adept sensor back when he was alive could distinguish the wood clone from the real one.

Also, I think i'd take back Minato BFR'ing Hashirama's giant Mokuton techs. Minato was able to accomplish that as an Edo, who have infinite chakra. Doesn't work out so well if he's alive.

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Minato Namikaze » Why Minato Might Have Been Strongest Hokage

I think the strongest argument you made is Minato's BFR'ing of Juubijuudama-sized objects, which can counter Hashirama's Mokuton jutsus, and coupled with Minato's already top tier reflexes enhanced by Bijuu chakra, does makes it hard for Hashirama to put Minato down using brute power. So I do see this being debatable.

Though, all this means is that Hashirama has to rely on strategy and smaller attacks to beat Minato. I'm pretty sure Hashirama is a far superior and more experienced battle tactician than Minato, seeing as he spent most of his life in all out free-for-all war zones as the leader of one of the biggest battle clans of all time. Not to mention not only did he lead his clan to the top but also consistently bested the leader of an equal war clan, who as you may get to know, is also a very efficient battle genius. The combo Hashirama would employ would probably be a wood clone that Minato will blitz, but that wood clone will instantly bind to him as it did to Juubito and suppress the Bijuu chakra and keep Minato restrained, while Hashirama does to Minato what he did to defeat Madara in their final fight.

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Battles » Toriko, Saitama and Jio vs Frieza, Madara and Aizen

@akronawol17 said:

nah, i dont't think he can solo with Frieza there. he'd probably beat him 1 on 1 via hax and good reflexes, but he'd have trouble fighting off all three villains and thier combined hax

It doesn't make a difference in this case whether it's two or three of them when Jio can already easily beat them one on one, precisely because none of them even has an effective counter to Jio's dimensional BFR hax in the first place.

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Battles » Kaguya vs Saitama

R1: Kaguya, because an IC Saitama with no knowledge will be wide open to Kaguya hair needles and bones plus be thrown to another dimension.

R2: Saitama blitz + one-shot.

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Battles » Lord Boros vs Lord Freiza

Base Freiza rapes.

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Battles » Giorno Giovanna vs Ultimate Cars

I feel like despite Giorno's ingenuity and Golden Experience's versatility, Cars would be able to rain down a diverse plethora of man-eating animals and sharp projectiles at Giorno beyond what GE would be able to repel. I don't think GE"s manipulation over life would be able to counter Car's own shapeshifting and reactive evolution capabilities imo, so Giorno has no way of putting Cars down, unless I'm missing something vital from Vento Aureo

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Battles » Crona vs Alexander Anderson

Anderson can't cut through his/her flesh.

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Battles » Starjun takes on a fiery gauntlet

Just by skimming through the list, he clears.

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General Discussion » Is a character being a Badass really important for a story?

Badassery is mostly for character likeability, although there are times when a character is badass enough, then the story seems to be of a "higher" quality.

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Battles » Team Banchou (Kongou Banchou) vs team Urameshi (Yu yu hakusho)

@Chef_Banchou said:

Akira vs Yusuke

Ial Banchou vs Hiei

Hikyou Banchou vs Kurama

Nenbutsu Banchou vs Kuwabara

Gouriki Banchou vs Genkai

Round one: everyone starts out in base form, and are unaware of eachothers abilities.

Round two: anyone who can transform starts out in their transformed state (Akira gets Wild Mode, but not giant mode) and since no one on team Banchou's side has anything like that (other than Akira), they get prior knowledge, while Hikyou Banchou gets a half hour prep.

round three: all out brawl, both teams have prior knowledge and prep, and Akira starts out in giant mode. Both teams are bloodlusted, HOWEVER! The fighters on both sides can ONLY fight the opponents they've been assigned to.

Who would win?

R1: Team YYH stomps their respective opponents except when it comes to Hikyou Bancho vs base Kurama and Gouriki Banchou vs Genkai. Given that she was able to hold off a punch (or maybe it was a foot-stomp) from Giant Mode Takeshi with her Hyperion constitution, she'd be able to one-shot Genkai very easily. Hikyou bancho has shown more impressive tactical/prep feats than kurama did, and better base stats as well.

R2: Same as above, but Hikyou Bancho gets stomped now.

R3: Same as above, but now Akira stomps.

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Battles » Claire Stanfield (Baccano!) v.s. Guts (Berserk)

Guts has a lightning timing feat which takes away Claire's speed advantage, and I don't recall Anime Claire doing something that would allow him to put Guts down armor-durability + physical endurance considered.

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Battles » Guts vs Miyamoto Musashi and Thorfinn

Golden Age Guts can still kill them with high diff, seeing as he was low superhuman at the time, while Thorfinn is peak human bordering on superhuman and Musashi is peak human....-ish. Neither of the two have a speed advantage over him, and Guts can still hit far harder than both of them combined, and has experience combating against monsters that would crush Thorfinn and Musashi simultaneously. Guts should also be able to tank more things, and has more reach than the two of them. If you replace Thorfinn with Thorkell and throw in Musashi for his skill with the sword as well, then it could go either way.

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Post by phantomrant (1,348 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Battles » Lord Boros Vs Madara Uchiha

Given what is hyped of his ki blasts and speed, he'll be able to obliterate Madara

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Battles » ESPADA VS. CLASS S (YU YU HAKUSHO)

Any of the Kings can solo-stomp beyond just the Espada.

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Battles » SOUS CHEF TRIO Vs. ADMIRAL TRIO

Pre-Cooking festival Bishokukai trio loses.

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