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Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Sunny vs. Coco

@taichokage said:

I agree. For the story it would be interesting if Zebra remained half a step ahead of Toriko until the late in the series. For all we know he still is. Zebra has barely done anything serious since the 4 Beast arc so it's hardest to guage Zebra out of the Kings.

from his reactions he seems at least on the same level as toriko. but who knows?

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Sunny vs. Coco

@taichokage said:

Coco gets that a lot. But his fans usually admit he's the weakest. Toriko fans are some of the most reasonable. I am one. Lol. But my favorite King changes a lot. It's one of the few main casts where I like all of them. But anyway, no doubt that Coco is the smartest and most resourceful. From a total power standpoint it's probably Zebra > Sunny > Toriko > Coco. In brains it's the opposite, Coco > Toriko > Sunny > Zebra. But overall combat prowess Toriko is probably the King. He's not the best in anything (except maybe brute strength) but he has no weakness relative to the others who each lack something.

exactly!

@akronawol17 said:

okay, so maybe Coco is the weakest in overall power. but he's pretty much the Batman of the Kings. he's by far the best tactician, and if he can survive long enough, he could probably find a way to trick Sani into a trap. he's extremely resourceful as a fighter, and could probably defeat any of the others in a fight through battle prowess and tactics, despite being the weakest physically. well, thats my opinion at least. Coco is my favorite of the kings, so maybe its just my fanboyism speaking lol

ironically, i think Coco has some of the most fans out of the Kings. he is the weakest power wise, and most accept this. but if you give him some time, he'll outsmart and outmanuver you easily. i personally like him for that reason, even though he's the weakest he has the tactical ability and brains to win against a more powerful opponent.

Toriko is my second favorite for the sole fact that he's just such a badass. and like you pointed out, he's the most balanced of the kings, and pretty much the unofficial leader as well.

also agree with this!

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Sunny vs. Coco

i gotta say sani wins.

with dining kitchen he can pretty much deflect all of coco's attacks save for poison mist, but he has hair tornado to get rid of that as well. sani has deflected lightbeams before so the mold spear wont be different.

also satan hair is a true gamechanger, it could one shot any poison doll coco makes.

up at this point the only king that could possibly defeat sani is zebura.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Gohan vs. Vegeta

@nishi99 said:

Gohan's still a FPSSJ, aka a Super Saiyan who's mastered their power. Vegeta was only at Ascended Super Saiyan level at the time of the Cell Games, thus making this a clear victory for Gohan.

i dont know why people skip this fact.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Eneru vs Ulquiorra

enel's intagibility gives him the win, ulquiorra cant really hurt him.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Hashirama and Madara vs Admirals

@GamaSennin said:

Hashirama and Madara take this with some effort.

Hashirama and Madara (their last form) easliy to considered as continentalbusters...

Aokiji and Kizaru->Mountbuster Akainu->landbuster

Wood Clones, Sealing Jutsus, Genjutsu Nİnja team even doesnt have to fight against them like face to face... They're can tricked them easily..

not even madara as avatar of the 10 tails is continental. he is low country tops.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Allen Walker vs a pacifista

@taichokage said:

Allen isn't the Monster trio's match in brute strength (except when he goes maximum which crippled him). However his durability is another story. He can probably soak damage more than any Strawhat except Luffy. The beams could be a problem but if he gets Cross Paling off I think he could kill it.

you mean zoro.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Saitama vs Four beast

@ohgodwhy said:

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@othus12: Yeah I guess it would be NLF to assume he could survive it in that case, this match outside the rain however would either be a stalemate or go to Saitama.

Off topic: I find it kinda funny that can be argued to kill beasts of this caliber while being casual but he has trouble swatting a normal mosquito, hell that mosquito gave him more trouble than half the cast he's faced

Saitama does have one weakness and that is that he still seems to be susceptible to piercing weapons. Notice how he always avoids being stabbed by Sonic's sword and the mosquito was able to pierce his skin.

that is interesting. i didnt realize he was weak against piercing weapons. good point.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » CP9 vs Meruem

Zebura pre skip is to who I was referring, and he still doesn't have any true feats that put him above sound without powerscaling.

either you forgot or simply lack the knowledge, but zebura has MANY feats that put him above the speed of sound by far, traveling continents of distance with jet voice is one, dodging four beast blast at ground zero before it touched the ground is another.

Netero is easily faster than sound, fodder hunter have reaction times to dodge machine gun fire yet in the face of someone more adept in combat they get completely blitzed, honestly mach 1-2 is downplaying the shit out of the entire verse.

like i said, reaction is not equal to combat speed. bullets are linear, hence easier to dodge than an actual opponent. even in normal humans reaction speed is far above their actual speed. you dont have to be forcibly faster to tag someone. many shonens have shown how, examples are one piece, KHR and toriko.

the CP9 can't produce the same level of energy the bomb does either

no, but they damn sure can produce something to damage meruem beyond saving. just look at kaku's amanedachi.

Meruem isn't going to decapitate her with a half assed tail swipe

he actually said he was trying to kill her. he was pretty impressed when pitou tanked the blow.

That's really speculation that it's harder since it was stated as normal steel, we can't just say that he should have easily cut it just because he was 100 tonner, especially since they were shown to have trouble with it on multiple occasions outside of that instance.

how the hell is that speculation? stone that thick is way harder to cut than some centimeters of steel skin. i invite you to read about the moh scale.

zoro splits a white boulder (possibly marble) just by lightly moving his sword. even if this were the usual concrete that's still harder to cut than steel skin. (too bad in one piece steel is tougher than in real life)

especially since they were shown to have trouble with it on multiple occasions outside of that instance.

which further explains my point. this is no ordinary steel. if that were the case considering zoro's cutting feats daz bone would have gotten split in half.

Which he admitted that he nearly lost consciousness from

no shame in that, gear third is more than what meruem could ever hope to dish in his entire life.

Hitting feats from Meruem himself are in low number due to him holding back immensely against Netero and never really fighting anyone after

so you are saying that by hype he should be strong? too bad hype doesnt count. if that were the case saitama would win ALL the threads on the vice.

we dont go by that.

Youpi's Rage blast which should be town level.

i dont really know which blast youre talking about

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Battles » Broly vs. Jirou

broly wins via brolypotence

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Battles » CP9 vs Meruem

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@othus12:

jabura has speed advantage, range advantage and his attacks can damage meurem. even netero tagged him hundreads of times and he is mach 1

Netero's fist once again was stated faster than sound, not the same speed, but that's an outlier anyway, unless you think Zebra could only attack at the speed of sound as well.

i dont care what people say, the rose bomb was a compact homemade bomb and it obliterated meruem.
meruem has nice durability (for his verse) but that's about it. tearing trough the flesh of feeble humans isnt impressive.

You think any of the CP9 could tank that nuke or even survive, that's honestly laughable dude. Netero's a feeble human now?

i bet meruem cant even break trough jabura's tekkai. (sanji barely did without diable jambe and he kicks buildings like i would kick a soccer ball)

Meruem should have far superior durabiliity to someone like Uvogin who's nen basically gives him a tekkai (a nen infused blade broke on his skin, he stopped a rocket bare handed, etc...) Uvo would likely be two shot by Netero. Scaling from other characters in the series, he should easily be able to break their tekkais pre rose, except maybe Lucci's strongest which should be a few times harder than steel.

yeah, you know zebura has actual feats to back up mach's on the thousands, keeping with buranchi alone is one. what feat does netero have to imply he is many times faster than sound? oh that's right, none. reaction is arguably better but speedwise he isnt beyond mach 2 (featwise and cannonly)

one piece characters arent exactly known for their durability, even whitebeard got hurt by bullets. your point? its not like meruem dishes attacks like the rose bomb. his personal attacks werent getting trough neferpitou's body. so even if meruem has better durability and stamina he is behind on all other categories.

steel in one piece is portrayed harder than in most fictions. we see zoro cutting trough 2 meter thick boulders without even trying yet wasnt able to cut trough daz bones skin. zoro at that point was a 10 tonner in strenght easy. had it been real life he could have crushed daz bones bare handed but like i said steel in one piece is clearly more durable than in other fictions.

Lucci's strongest which should be a few times harder than steel.

strong enough to take head on luffy's giant pistol (which destroyed a meter thick steel gate in one go) and even shook the entire tower of justice along with the main land (which is small island sized)

scailing from lucci jabura's tekkai is kinda halfway his but still enough to protect him from meruem's attacks. if you have any hitting feat from meurem id be glad to look at it.

EDIT

btw HXH characters cant really be scaled. on the genei ryodan uvogin was the strongest physically but he was among the weakest members. stats like durability, speed and punching power are unique and vary. youpi for example seems to be physically stronger than meruem.

on the other hand you can scale cp9 members thanks to the douriki system.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » CP9 vs Meruem

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

City block? Even Uvogin is better feats than that, and Gon launched ants to another country in base, Meurem logically should be superior to the Cp9 in most stats barring physical strength plus I gave him knowledge in this scenario so he knows all of their abilities as well.

@othus12 said:

Scenario 1. Pre Rose Meruem

  1. Gauntlet (weakest to strongest) - Stops at jabura

How does he stop at Jabura exactly?

jabura has speed advantage, range advantage and his attacks can damage meurem. even netero tagged him hundreads of times and he is mach 1

i dont care what people say, the rose bomb was a compact homemade bomb and it obliterated meruem.

meruem has nice durability (for his verse) but that's about it. tearing trough the flesh of feeble humans isnt impressive.

i bet meruem cant even break trough jabura's tekkai. (sanji barely did without diable jambe and he kicks buildings like i would kick a soccer ball)

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Naruto » NARUTO 692 (REVIEW)

Thanks kishimoto for not screwing up the end! nice setup chapter

THE GOOD

We finally get some classic naruto stuff going on! the fight EVERYONE wanted is comming!

Sasuke not only perfected his sharingan, but also the Rinnegan. how will naruto fight him considering the rinnegan absorbs all jutsus?

THE BAD

we get pointless "plot development".

CHAPTER SCORE 3/5 (good)

we finally get a really good naruto chapter, and the fight that was forseen YEARS ago is becoming a reality right now.

how will the infinite tsukuyomi get dispelled now? will naruto take care of sasuke once and for all? we have just begun!

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Toriko » TORIKO 292 (REVIEW)

Toriko 292 comes with BIG surprises, hype... and shock!?

THE GOOD

*We finally get to see the effects of AIR on the 4 heavenly kings.

massive regen, enhanced senses and even resist to the vacuum have been confirmed.

*the mistery of the gourmet cells is explained and why komatsu now has them

*toriko vs teppei fight is ON.

THE BAD

i cant say a single bad thing about this chapter. from AIR to NEO the chapter was incredibly interesting and relevant

WTF FACTOR

Teppei kills komatsu???!! NOOOOO.....

MASSIVE HYPE FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER. prepare to witness the newly found powers of the 4HK

CHAPTER SCORE: 4/5

from the story development, the added hype and feats i can only say this chapter leaves a perfect setup for toriko 293. we can only hope it gets as good as this.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » CP9 vs Meruem

Scenario 1. Pre Rose Meruem

  1. Gauntlet (weakest to strongest) - Stops at jabura
  2. All at once- meruem dies

Scenario 2. Post Rose Meruem

  1. All at once- meruem dies
  2. All at once (speed equal)- meruem dies
Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Speed of Sound Sonic vs Strider Hiryu

@UltimateHero0406 said:

If we include the Strider manga, I'd give it to Hiryu.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Capture Level » 8 kings capture level?

i just realized something... it might not be a trend but it wouls seem AIR gave a counter to the abilities of the king of the zone.

AIR is the perfect counter against Heracles destroyer breath (since it lets you be without actual air for days)

i wonder what will the rest of acacia's full course will do and at the same time what can the other kings do.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Goku, Toriko & Saitama vs. Thor

its a common mistake to say thor is slow.

Post by othus12 (6,886 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Meruem vs Sonic the hedgehog

i request a lock. universal being vs hill level character.

EDIT

sonic cant go super but there's ultra sonic so yeah...

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