Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Octopus Kong VS Zaraki Kenpachi

@IndridCold: im pretty sure they can destroy it and keep fighting lol

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Meruem vs Daemon Spade

@taichokage said:

Can cast illusions and mind control, manifest some his illusions into physical reality, fly, has a pocket dimension he can BFR you to or go to himself, all of Mukuro's abilities pre final arc which include physical enhancement, beast summons and other things, he has energy powers o various types and he can create 5 full power clones of himself. He also could tank Tsuna's XX burner which was town level+ easily.

xx burner looked like mountain level to me.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Bartholomew Kuma VS Monster Trio (Single/ All 3)

@Low: concious kuma is stronger than robot kuma. idk what you are talking about. perhaps with scans i could unerstand better

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Midora vs Imperfect Cell

im with midora, the combination of minority world and hungry space along with the mirror neurons should give him the win, most ki blasts will slip on atomic level and if ou shoku bashi which was earth sized didnt connect much less a kamehameha.

moreover, all of the attacks of midora fuck on atomic level so basically anything midora dishes is sure to screw cell pretty badly.

also absorbtion is the worst thing cell could go for. he would just get on the range of midora's hungry tongue.

@GeneralVan said:

I'm going with Imperfect Cell. I still put Midora under 100% Final Form Frieza.

lol no. ichiryuu alone can take frieza.

@flashback180 said:

  • cell stomps. goku in base traveled from the other side of the planet in just secs to save vegeta thats beyond hypersonic. imperfect Cell is stronger and faster than 17 and piccolo who are stronger than ssj1 vegeta >freeza> base goku.
  • cell have impressive regeneration even if a single cell survives he will regenerate in moments.
  • cell knows most techniques the z fighters and freeza used including the kizen ,special beam canon and solar flare, he clearly has the advantage in numerous techniques too.
  • by power scaling he is beyond planet busting by default. Dont forget he has the cells of freeza and knows Galick Gun .which are plant level techniques .
  • It's funny cos most of anime vice had agreed he was going to lose agianst freeza, who is nowhere near 18 or even trunks for that matter

http://www.animevice.com/forums/battles/33/midora-vs-frieza/345579/?page=3

1.- goku never traveled to the other side of the planet in seconds, it was a wrong statement which is further proven by goku when he said he wouldnt make it to his ship back in time (when there was 3 minutes left for namek to explode)

he then confirms this one more time when he arrived on earth

2.- ichiryuu had an even better regeneration speed than cell and got topped by midora's hungry tongue.

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3.- not really, midora's mirror neurons,hungry tongue,hungry space and minority world are (potency wise) above any of the Z fighters techniques. shunkan ido would be the upper hand for cell but at that point he didnt had it.

4.-fair enough. midora did evade planet+ techniques with his mirror neurons before.

5.-i get you dont read toriko because if you did you would know characters can double their power in 5 chapters. its as if they introduced kaio ken and 3 chapters later goku went super saiyan. toriko characters jump in power extremely fast.

my conclusion

the fight is good but in character and taking into account my previous points id say midora wins after a good fight.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Bartholomew Kuma VS Monster Trio (Single/ All 3)

@Low: kuma is a shichibukai so of course someone with the same title as Mihawk could worry rayleigh. howerver rayleigh was also impressed by luffy and he saw him several times as the next pirate king. in terms of hype i guess uffy wins hands down.

going towards feats i will never forget how zoro pre TS tagged kuma and dodged dozens of his attacks. take into account current zoro could solo the pre ts strawhats with ease.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Meruem Vs Luffy

@Polpo: since it cant be scaled we dont even know how fast that was. the best we got is a little fster than sound but that's about it.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Kaguya, Sakue, Naruto Vs Goku (Saiyan Saga), Vegeta (Namek Saga)

let the poor guys even get feats above 4 beast arc to pit them against saiyan saga characters bro.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Bartholomew Kuma VS Monster Trio (Single/ All 3)

@Low: the pacifista wasnt even attacking kuma. and BFR is not a good measure of power TBH.

anyways, durability wise kuma is equal to a pacifista save for his pads.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Octopus Kong VS Zaraki Kenpachi

toriko stated that the mountai weighted no less than 1 trillion tons. sani at 4 beast arc would have soloed easily. moreover sani had 1 million feelers with greater power when he fought octopus kong and still said that the beast could tear his hair lock appart

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Four Beast Vs Oozaru Vegeta

si you have scans of goku stating this or its just your assumption? I'm guessing its the latter

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

yeah, honestly there id no comparison, btw regarding madara absorbing senjutsu...take into account senjutsu id still chakra based

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Four Beast Vs Oozaru Vegeta

@taichokage said:

The answer in a word is consistency. DB stated as a gag and Toriyama did not remove that element completely. He admitted he forgot many aspects of his story as he went on. Roshi moon busts but Piccolo was city level. Saiyan Saga Z warriors freaking out over city level explosions. Babidi read Goku as 10x planet level, base Frieza was casual planet level. Cell was supposed to be SS level, yet Buu saga Goku and Vegeta together could not stop Buu's planet buster. Not to mention everyone who stayed died from a planet buster. Not very convincing of planet+ durability. There are numerous more instances. It's simply sheer inconsistency which is why DBZ is hard to debate when going against strong characters of similar level, not that the 4 Beast is that level.

this is exactly how i feel about Z

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Kaguya, Sakue, Naruto Vs Goku (Saiyan Saga), Vegeta (Namek Saga)

@luthluth said:

@Low said:

Eh, Naruto or Kaguya solo. None of the two Saiyens at this point had the durability to resist attacks that destroyed them at a molecular level. However SS2 and past that is a different story.

for some reason low thinks the Z fighters are just gonna stand there and watch the naruto characters attack.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Octopus Kong VS Zaraki Kenpachi

@taichokage said:

Zaraki could probably dish out enough power to beat King Octopus Kong. At this point, Sunny was capable of exerting a little over 300 million tons of force at this point iirc. Nozarashi can top that. However, Mount Turtle would be a no go. Still Kong was a continent destroyer. It was indicated he didn't do it all at once but obviously that's a threat to Zaraki either way.

sani at this point would have easily cleared death falls so the trillion ton mountain feat should get added to his feat list.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

@Low: sounds like NLF to me. specially aplying to other types of energy. this guy is no accelerator.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Octopus Kong VS Zaraki Kenpachi

@SonNeko: current zaraki.

basically octopus kong can tear trough sani's hair lock which at that point had a strenght of over 1 trillion tons.

its also extremely fast (around mach 1000) and trashed a zone the size of eurasia in a matter of minutes.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

@Low: you really think flight gives an advantage when your opponent can do this casually? i shoudl remind you mt turtle one shotted an army of jets piloted by GT robos.

also gudou dama has never reflected anything even close to the attack of the mount turtle.

ANYWAYS

the strategy for team naruto to win here is FAR more complex than what mounturtle needs to do which is basically open his mouth.

not saying team naruto gets crushed horribly but mounturtle alone has this 9/10 times.

adding kenpachi to the mix is like kicking an alredy dead dog.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Octopus Kong VS Zaraki Kenpachi

VS

STAGE: TERMINA, FINAL DAY

RULES

*In character

*no time limit

*start 20 meters away

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Four Beast Vs Oozaru Vegeta

@BloodSprinkles: i hate debating on Z because its baddly written but ok here is my explanation:

for starters frieza counters himself at his final form where he failed to destroy namek (if the power scale worked only 10% of his power was needed at that time to destroy namek yet he failed.)

and even he accepted a planet bust would put him in trouble.

second goku himself accepts a planet bust could have killed him.

so im actually giving goku quite a hype here, if we went for feats he would be planet buster x2 at most and only because he defeated frieza AND we have claims of him stating a planet bust would kill him.

Post by othus12 (6,210 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Kenpachi & Mount Turtle vs Madara & Obito

@Low: gudou dama works just fine. it would be a fallacy to say it absorbs any type of energy since its not really the case.

genjutsu works ok, but the main thing here is that mounturtle can fodderize the naruto team faster than whatever they can do to react.

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