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Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Meruem vs Sonic the hedgehog

i request a lock. universal being vs hill level character.

EDIT

sonic cant go super but there's ultra sonic so yeah...

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Mansam vs. Zebra

TBH mansam should have wayyy more developed gourmet cells, still current kings are clearly above biotope 0 staff members like rapp (who was previously stated to be above zebura) and melk the first.

for round 1 im gonna have to give it to mansam and for round 2 it has to go to zebura. specially since they have eaten AIR alredy.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Starjun takes on a fiery gauntlet

@ohgodwhy said:

Starjun seems to like testing people's abilities so I would think that he would ask/force Yamamoto to activate bankai which would likely lead to his downfall.

he had personal business with toriko, that's why he forced his hand. against any other character he would just rush for the kill. just look at the regal mammoth arc.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Starjun takes on a fiery gauntlet

@HungryWorld said:

@othus12: Busy editing the gauntlet as seemingly there were some mistakes in feats. Damn inconsistent verses and sources. Also there's no ultimate routine for Starjun, as put into the fighting conditions.

still he has country-low continent level potency on his attacks. none of the opponents here could possibly hope to hurt starjun save for yammamoto in bankai but considering starjun's speed yamma isnt activiating it anytime soon.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Starjun takes on a fiery gauntlet

starjun one shots tsuna with the ultimate routine. tsuna doesnt have a chance here.

starjun clears this.

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Battles » Saitama vs Four beast

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@othus12: Well he did survive in space in a manner no human would be capable of, holding his breath would actually kill him faster if his organs worked the same way (which is why I question how he'd react to this poison), but I get what you mean, he's basically a guy with the limitations of normal human anatomy (ex. can't lick his own elbow) only augmented to horrendous levels.

perhaps for common poison we could argue some tolerance but 4 beast poison isnt exactly rat poison or something puny. if coco couldnt make antibodies at that time then saitama is kinda screwed on that aspect.

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Battles » Saitama vs Four beast

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@othus12: It's kinda irrelevant, it isn't like he's getting power ups or anything, he has literally stayed the same throughout the entire series, going by stats the Four Beast's only hope is the poisonous rain which we don't know how Saitama would react to the same way we don't know how the Four Beasts abilities would stack up to a punch of OPM's caliber.

saitama does have a human body. he simply has super dense organs and tissue from constant workout.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Saitama vs Four beast

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

@othus12: The four beast appears to consciously transfer the force of impacts, Saitama when serious can easily blitz and repeatedly punch holes through it before it knows where to redirect the force, that being said its regeneration is the only thing that may causes problems but I honestly think Saitama punch can overcome it, if not now he will later once more feats are shown. Even during the Boros fight he was still holding back immensely.

keyword: later.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Saitama vs Four beast

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

The Four Beast could probably channel the shock waves throughout its body if Saitama is throwing only casual punches, but the Beast isn't surviving any of the serious series.

why not? can the 4 beast even be killed by kinetic energy? maybe hulkish levels but saitama has yet to show something on that level. the 4 beast can regenerate from a little blob

saitama at best makes it explode but the 4 beast would just appear again. ou shoku ban san is far above saitama's capabilities so we cant really tell.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Toriko runs the DBZ gauntlet 2.0

@GrayWolf2 said:

@othus12: Why give such a simple generalization if it wasn't about the strength of the animals? Anyway as for the strength thing again I say who cares. 1. Toriko relies more heavily on strikes than wrestling anyway and 2. Characters as low as Raditz have shown capable of neutralizing moon level attacks with one hand. Toriko with all his brute strength would still be killed if he tried the same right now. Which one sounds more powerful? Brute strength or Power power?

capture levels are very iffy on the stats. some capture levels have hax, others have raw strenght, others speed. again, toriko was giving an average number at which he feel confortable defeating with a mindblast intimidation.

and toriko fights using intuition, he would wrestle z fighters because he knows that's the way to go.

toriko characters have never been about busting anyways. its focused on potency+hax and zone effects. measuring toriko with the same stick as dragon ball wont get you anywhere because they are very diferent.

sometimes having more busting power doesnt grant you a win.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Toriko runs the DBZ gauntlet 2.0

@NAURTOISCOOL: yeah frieza is too much.

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Battles » Toriko runs the DBZ gauntlet 2.0

@NAURTOISCOOL: time and time again it brings me to the same conclussion: toriyama didnt knew what the hell he was doing.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Toriko runs the DBZ gauntlet 2.0

@NAURTOISCOOL said:

true but only in feats toriko is physically stronger don't mean he is since in dbz they barley lift anything. even if toriko was dbz characters durability is insane piccolo would be fine toriko grip wouldn't do much. also dbz is horribly inconsistent with numbers. kid goku lifted a car a boulder took machine gun fire to the face. Yet adult goku struggle with 40 tons hurt by a rock at ssj1 and scared of needles. yeah if we go by low end he make it to cell high end freiza

they barely lift BUT we have actual numbers of their lifting. kid goku didnt lift the boulder, he pushed it. later on he flipped giant piccolo which could have been on the 20 ton range.

ANYWAYS: his KI gets stronger but his body doesnt get that much stronger, akira torikiyama himself said: your body can only take you so far, thus Z fighters use KI to amp their power. and in regards to busting, energy input and output they succeed. but their bodies still fall short.

when you cant lift something it means it goes beyond your muscle capacity. when you lift more than your body is supposed to your muscles get RIPPED.

- goku's arms were forced down at 40 tons, meaning his muscles werent able to take the weight, any more and his muscles would have started to rip appart (take into account he is on great kai's planet meaning gravity is amped 10 times)

then he goes super saiyan amping his strenght 50 times.

40x50=2000 tons is his max. even adding gravity X10 it gives a total of 20,000 tons.

kappa nosh was carrying 5 QUADRILLION TONS with his drained weakened body.. its another dimension of power.

kappa used oozara tate so that air wouldnt crush his skull. but he really carried 5 quadrillion tons with a worn out body. albeit for a short period of time.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Toriko runs the DBZ gauntlet 2.0

@GrayWolf2 said:

The fact that toriko gave limits to his illusions means there is a power limit to who it can effect. Multiple beings on this list are far more powerful than him. Brute strength isn't the only stat that matters. This rings more true since he hasn't proved he can handle a full power blast from piccolo during the saiyan saga. Let alone namek characters like ginyu and wow frieza. Why did it even need to go to him? Is it for the far future or what?

we dont know by which means stronger characters deflect toriko's ultimate impression. you are asuming they tank it because they are simply stronger which might not be true.

and while toriko cant tank piccolo's blast he on the same ascpect cant tank toriko's grip.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Saitama vs Four beast

@ohgodwhy said:

@othus12 said:

idk what you mean on round one, we dont know what it could do before absorbing its limbs

in round 2 however

the four beast redirects all damage to the outside and regenerates organs and limbs on the fly with no end, it took an atomic remover to bypass his regen. saitama would punch a hole through it every single time but it wont make any difference because kinectic damage goes through the 4 beast to the outside

saitama however still has a human body so the four beast wins via poison rain.

It depends on whether or not the Four Beast can deflect the energy of such a powerful punch. If not then Saitama should be able to take it out. Personally I don't see how it can divert the energy of an attack that would otherwise rip straight through it but we can't say for sure. As well as this, a serious Saitama should be able to strike it multiple times with ease making it really hard for it to divert the attacks.

the 4 beast has shown that the attack itself goes out of its body,its not deflecting,the 4 beats simply lets it burst out (though it can also deflect punches) and with majin buu level regen i just dont see saitama putting it down before the poison gets to him.

the kings lasted A LOT because their gourmet cells gave them a degree of immunity against the green rain but saitama doesnt have that,

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Toriko runs the DBZ gauntlet 2.0

@GrayWolf2 said:

Immediately after his fight with gaoh his best attack was shown to be small mountain level. Continent level my ass. Toriko wouldn't reach that till around now really.

toriko's physical strenght is far above anything they have shown in dragon ball

nosh (weaker than toriko) held 5 quadrillion tons with a drained body. Z characters hit hard because they use ki on their punches but enough weight will crush their bodies. perfectly proven by all the gravity training and weight training they have done on the series. a few 100 kilos slows them down, in the tens of tons range they cant even move save for super saiyan and above. still a couple hundred thousand tons would crush them and we are talking about a guy who has hulkish levels of strenght (as i said, quadrillion ton range)

toriko can also mindblast creatures that can control all 5 senses and even electromagnetic waves, i dont think there's a ki barrier for that. the only mind resist feat was from vegeta but he's on ssj2 levels.

toriko can defeat ginyu allright.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Saitama vs Four beast

idk what you mean on round one, we dont know what it could do before absorbing its limbs

in round 2 however

the four beast redirects all damage to the outside and regenerates organs and limbs on the fly with no end, it took an atomic remover to bypass his regen. saitama would punch a hole through it every single time but it wont make any difference because kinectic damage goes through the 4 beast to the outside

saitama however still has a human body so the four beast wins via poison rain.

Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Battles » Toriko runs the DBZ gauntlet 2.0

@Kobra678 said: we still have blue oni hitting heracles. that made heracles react while his own shockwave (which shook an earth sized continent) did nothing to him.

Getting grazed by something isn't really a durability feat. Blue Oni practically has no feats. Other than punching Heracles he's shown nothing. We can sorta powerscale him but it's still pretty unreliable.we
Post by othus12 (6,847 posts) See mini bio Level 13

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