othus12 (Level 10)

i haven't been following the debate so i wont vote. sorry guys

@taichokage: how so not by a lot? if it weren't for starjun's precognition toriko would have one shotted him. and starjun had the durability to tank torikos full arsenal. the difference is that toriko wasn't going all out until now.

we are talking about a guy with country level durability getting one shotted...how isnt that on many levels above sensui?

if thor broke the neck of the man who had the power of a thousand suns guess what would happen to naruto?

@supernova7005: on the other hand baby vegeta should have been able to explode earth just by powering up since he is millions of times stronger than frieza right?. my point is that there is no way to confirm the real power of anyone unless we go by feats. powerscailing is the worst method of measuring power and its often rejected.

lets do battles without speculation. if a character doesn't have feats then we shouldn't be debating on it. if they dont have feats it might just be for a good reason.

@TheNeutralOne said:

should be named

Someone who can kill by bending his fingers vs Someone who can't stop it

HAHAHAHAHA

@TheNeutralOne said:

^--- which final fantasy is this?!

ditto

@supernova7005: never trust power levels pal. but yeah current toriko takes this rather easily.

this again? somebody hates sasuke

yamato would win

@SpeedForceSpider: i dont usually give these but when someone deserves it they get it. my highest ranked medal:

you get the bad ass seal of approval my bro because of this debate.

there goes another vote for speed.

tobi....

@ChromeDisaster: not to mention its just a legend....you know... because they have revived it now -.-

FIRE

-fire fist ACE

-human torch

-natsu

-yammamoto

-starjun

ICE

-Ao kiji

-iceman

-gray fullbuster

-bronze cloth hyoga

-hitsugaya toshiro

@Jinbeifan1: you know...haki isnt a PIS weapon for luffy. many have used it against him sentoumaru and the kujas wooped him a lot because of haki. while in the other hand the vizard form has always worked well for him. when he was about to lose against byakuya the hollow popped in. when he was about to lose against ulquiorra the hollow popped in. and when that was getting old they gave ichigo quincy powers. that annoys me.

@taichokage said:

I see your point, creation > destruction in terms of overall power, but a quick analogy. If we took a normal man who was dangerous and put him in a jail, he would be confined, problem solved. But if we had a said bomb that was capable of destroying said jail and we put it next to the man, well he would be dead. It's a crude analogy, but my point is that it might take a lot more skill (power) to create a jail/moon than to destroy one, but in a battle sense, the destruction of said jail/moon would be equally if not more useful.

that's quite a good analogy.

@Haofan123: thanks man! i hope we get some more interesting debates up soon.

EDIT:

I've just read chapter 234...i change my mind toriko doesnt win. he god damn STOMPS.

@solesamurai: now you are just raging dude.

watch your very first post on this thread there you say you dont believe toriko can win.

there is no hyperbole. just because you can't believe how awesome zebura is doesnt mean its hyperbole,it rather turns you into a hater. the army attacked and the showing is there. they used mamooth tanks,jet fighters equipped with special missiles, dreadnoughts and even space stations with massive laser beams. i can back up the statement on that attack. you cant do shit (author's word and showing>>>>>your reasoning).if shimabukuro wants to portray 10 million square kilometers getting destroyed by a massive army you have no right to question him. BTW beat punch wasnt the only attack zebura did that damaged the mounturtle. several attacks did more damage than what the army inflicted (DEAL WITH IT). zebura surpassed the attack of the army with his concentrated attacks. oh and BTW ichiryuu would laugh at zebura. an attack of that level wouldnt even tickle him...and he is the apprentice of acacia which in turn is so powerful that he is worshiped as a god.

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now the next notion: proving toriko takes this with ease

speedforcespider: "Toriko should win 8/10."

SMXLR8: toriko wins 6-8or 9/5 with medium to low difficulty

ultimatehero0406: Toriko should win here

Haofan123: Toriko should win this. His attacks should be able to punch right through sensui (if i can punch right through you it means i can own you with very little diffculty lol)

to me it seems YOU are the fan boy stating YYH characters are moon level when you haven't even provided a single scan of them even country busting. what shows they are country level when they haven't even shown an attack on the level i showed?? toriko takes this quite easily and yeah the verse is above. U MAD BRO? OR IS IT JUST THAT YOU HATE TORIKO? go read other threads like saiyans vs 4 heavenly kings or the characters from jo jo's bizarre adventure to see if i thought the kings win. of course not because im not biased nor a fanboy. its just that i know when they do win and when they dont.

@Haofan123 : we missed you pal!

@TheBlackDragonz: thor is omniscient and at universal level. he would know omegamon wanted to do that before he was even born.

@solesamurai said:

You have no idea how badly i wanna smash on this right now, 10 million square kilometers is obvious hyperbole considering earths square mileage in about 200 million and the percentage of that that is land is about 16% meaning he would faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar beyond country busting capability and would be able to cause enough colateral damage to erase the earth in it's entirety. That's where you already posted obvious bullshit to anyone who knows how vast 10 million square kilometers is. The second I get my computer back from geek squad I'll post scans and all that other stuff.

thank you for putting zebura above country level out of the goodness of your heart. you just lost this debate considering how toriko is really on the same tier as him (i still think zebura is country level though. not planetary like you just said but ok the point was proven) besides everyone agreed that toriko would win with relative ease. read the comments. there is no shame in realizing that you were wrong dude.