@DBZ_universe said:This lol
Back to the thread, I am a base Aizen fan so I am going to go with Base Aizen.
Thank you @taichokage: I always have faith in you as you are one of the most reasonable people on this site.
All I am doing is listing facts. 'I'm just talking' (in a Dave Chapelle voice)
I'm not 100% sure he can repel time either but I do not like how people completely dismissed Kuma's ability when it has feats to back up the possible time repulsion.
Barragan is not God neither is his ability as he would easily be able to rot/age Aizen's KS.
I would not say that about Law's cutting ability because literally has not been shown to cut everything. I sort of understand what your trying to say to me. 'He exist in the boundaries of time, so he can't repel time itself'. Kuma has been shown to repel things for 3 days & nights at 'lightspeed'. Read below for the gift I gave to luthluth.
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Well not anymore as he is a pacifista but that neither here nor there as Barrigan has been shown to age metal.
What your not understanding is how is he going to age repel. Forget this 'he is a man' nonsense because that does not matter because respira has to get past his DF first.
Respira is going up against the repel ability. You guys argument (well Everybody's excluding me) is that Kuma can not repel time.
Well I disagree for many valid reasons that I have already said on top of Kuma repelling things for 3 days/nights at 'lightspeed' (another hint at being able to repel time) on top of DF fruits power being reborn (goes against Barragans ability to actually age/rot the DF power as he said himself as long as its man made & it can die he can age it) but I will throw out another one for free as Kuma has already repelled time when he removed Luffy's pain and fatigue essentially bringing his body to a state before he accumulated damage in fight against Moria. This is the most important fact I have brought up to date please do not dismiss this as it is important. It was not a cure or a healing technique it simply removed the ailments from his body that was developed beforehand. I could go as far as to say its a shitty version of Ichigo's girlfriends' technique where she completely reject time (obviously Kuma can not bring back limbs but he essentially does everything she does).
But then is it not similar when he repels things for 3 days & nights at "light speed".
So when respira touches his palms it bypasses his repel power completely is that what your saying. Let us rephrase his 'hands' to 'repel pads or repel hands'. So does respira completely ignore the power within Kuma's hands?
I can also say even if respira touches his 'repel hands' it's still touching his hands so its going to repel.
I have also said somewhere that Devil Fruits do not die they get reborn so how will Barragan's ability work with that knowledge when he stated that all things can die and age thats why his ability will rot/age it but DF get reborn. So what happens then?
Fair enough with prep and/or bankai the potency of his attacks are greater. I'm pretty sure the core temp of the sun can reach over 27 million. Its a winter island it is constantly cold and snowing there. That was impressive but I doubt he could sustain his bankai for that long before he destroys SS but it is possible.
I will concede to the fact that Kuzan gets burnt to a crisp but I am nowhere near convinced that he is hotter than Akainu apart from the character statement of '15 million degrees'.
No I'm not. I'm trying to make everyone that sided with Barrigan realise why this would be a tie.
If his time ability is absolute then why not Kuma's ability as well?
Should they not cancel each other out.
Fair enough it was not a big island. My point is without prep Yama feats are not greater. His heat is not vastly inferior as Ace passively changed the climate on Choppers home island and I know you know that was a big island. He never explicitly burned anything other than wood but the steel components to make up battleships count. Yama can reach up to 15 million degrees, not the core temperature of the sun.
Yama's bankai/technique has all his flames on the tip of his sword of course it would be potent enough to at least do that.
Imagine if Ace had the flame emperor attack at the tip of his finger.
So this respira ability completely bypasses Kuma's ability and ages his hand?
Respira still touches his palms. That's what nobody seems to be able to explain. Does respira age the repelling ability because that is in an essence what your saying if it bypasses his palms because otherwise it can not just bypass it.
What happens when Kuma has his hand prime and ready to repel respira? i.e. respira does not touch anywhere else apart from his palms
Does respira still age his repelling ability? If the answer is yes (excuse my language) but how the f*** does that work. -_-
The admirals lose because of reaitsu crush. Are you happy now?
How on earth is he island lvl.
The temperature of the sun can apparently reach more than 27 million degrees. So Yama really is not the embodiment of the sun but he is close I'll give him that.
I'm not disputing the fact that over a period of time he could destroy SS.
I'm just pointing out other feats early on in the series from characters of the same elemental class. I have not seen Yama do anything passive on an island level scale. But no one would even consider (not even me) that Ace's flames are as hot as the sun. Quick question, I wonder how much heat has to be generating from a single entity to stop an island that constantly snows?