I was talking about Doflamingo stopping their (logia users) movements he just cut Smoker to bits lol
Ace has been the youngest character so far to use HH.
Marco in the eyes of the 5 elder stars is superior to Doflamingo.
Jozu was not even fazed when that happened he knew Doflamingo could not do anything after he bound him lol.
Ace is not a non factor here he has massive aoe fire attacks.