Battles » BM Naruto vs Admiral
Loses against Kuzan.
Loses against Kizaru.
Wins against Akainu.
Loses against Kuzan.
Loses against Kizaru.
Wins against Akainu.
@TheNeutralOne said:
I say it depends. If madara is edo then he should win because obviously he would never get tired and could regenerate. If not, ulquiorra is faster, physically stronger and if he connects he can 1hit madara. He also has the flight advantage here along with his cero oscuras and lanza del relampago he should be able to take it.
@solesamurai said:
I'm gonna be the odd-ball and say ulquiorra. I can't see how madara can get over the obvious speed difference. and Ulquiorras regeneration. Not to mention cero oscuras can 1 shot.
@solesamurai said:
Ulquiorra was fast enough to speed blitz rofl stomp a mass hypersonic ichigo with mask on. madara has no speed feats to suggest he is even close to that fast. And Lanza del ralampago did this
That building is Las Noches which is so big that while traveling towards it Ichigo and Co couldn't notice it getting any bigger after running towards it for days. They even questioned it being an illusion at one point. I'd love to see madara top an explosion that big with a spammable attack like LDR.
These.
@Dream said:
Soul Society rather easily. Most of the Shinobi Alliance are fodder and even with Kage, Jinchuriki or other high-tiers among the alliance, the Soul Society has too many characters with high destructive potential, flight advantage and hypersonic speed for the Shinobi Alliance to handle all at once. If Aizen's among the Soul Society numbers, it only worsens defeat for the Shinobi Alliance with Kyouka Suigetsu in effect.
This.
@TheNeutralOne said:
What is this utter garbage i am reading? Since when did naruto gain so much combat experience it only requires him and bee to take down aizen and yammamoto? They are literally thousands of years old with that amount of combat experience. Aizen could solo the entire narutoverse. Idk why this battle isn't even considered spite with him just being on soul societies team. No one in naruto can get close to yamamoto or unohana as they will die. Bijuu dama? Lol. Tell me again how kido shields work? Also yamamoto's bankai disintergrates "EVERYTHING" it touches. Not to mention it would be pretty hard to hit a moving target with a bijuu dama. Especially since they can fly and have flash step. Never once has the bijuu dama been shown to be versatile enough to strike a fast moving target capable of flight or even a fast moving target and in some cases just a target. The ten tails destroying the village is a non factor in that first of all it is stronger than all of the bijuu put together and then some, it is a separate entity with its own feats and can't be linked to naruto and the others, and lastly shikamaru's dad and ino's dad had already planned to die and made no effort to escape.
If my statements aren't enough I could show how base hashirama simply avoided it and on top of that stopped did a jutsu and summoned the rashoumon before it actually got to him.
Aizen's power affects the senses. You can't snap someone out of it even if you wanted too because you would be affected as well. It is his choice whether he shows you an illusion or not. He could simply leave you there blank with no means of protecting yourself. In that way it is not an illusion.
Also all these assumptions conclude that naruto would start off shooting bijuu damas. Which does not happen. The only instances where he used it was when someone else used it or when he was out of control while fighting orochimaru. Other times he relies on the rasengan and his hand to hand abilities. Naruto WILL make the mistake of going to try and fight yamamoto and naruto WILL die from extreme heat before he even reaches him. To prove me wrong you would have to show me an instance where naruto uses a bijuu dama against a target not a bijuu that hasn't already tried to use one. (hint: there is no such scan.)
And this.@Dream said:
@YoungChief: Might want to check the comments sections for both those calcs. There is dispute over scaling the exact sizes of the gates for the Kyuubi feat and the speed of the blast, as well as the exact time frame for which the the Juubi feat occurred and the destructive scale of the attack.
Pay attention to everything before just blindly accepting something as legitimate truth.
And this.
How will Baraggan lose?
It's funny how Whitebeard will somehow lose to Hashirama yet win against Baraggan.
@othus12 said:
a claim followed by a feat is what should give real proof.
I agree with this 100% and so it should be.
@taichokage: @othus12: @solesamurai:
LOL did you actually believe me.
Where do people calculate these things & are they even trustworthy sources compared to the manga showings? What scans show the bijuu dama being that fast?
I need scans to believe that anyone apart from Naruto, Minato, A & Tobirama are near massively hypersonic. I don't believe from any of the showings that Madara or Hashirama are near that speed.
Raikage is the same speed as Kizaru or faster. The kages have better teamwork and the have Onoki. Kages can win.
@taichokage: What about genjutsu??
@YoungChief said:
His most recent calc/feat puts him at massively hypersonic
Where did you get this information from? Because I have not seen any 'massively hypersonic' speed feats from Hashirama.
@YoungChief said:
island busting power isn't gonna do much to him if anything at all, btw there isn't a one piece character that's an island buster yet, you'd have to stretch things a bit to find even a mountain buster in one piece that isn't named whitebeard or blackbeard, and even with them it's a stretch since the best quake fruit feat is splitting an island
I have not seen any island busting feats in Naruto either & why won't an island busting attack not do anything to him.
When people say island buster they have to be specific as island vary in size greatly.
Law seems to have cut Punk Hazard in two, if you do not believe that feat shown (as I am a bit sceptical myself), he is certainly a mountain slicer.
I am a tiny bit confused how things are calculated on this site. Does it go building lvl< multi building lvl< city block lvl< multi city block lvl< town lvl< mountain lvl< city lvl etc..
@SpeedForceSpider said:
@One_Piece_God said:How is that when you are wanking One Piece?I believe there is a lot of Naruto wanking going on here. I agree with some of the arguments brought up in this battle. Yes Madara/Karuma & Hashirama are strong but against all 3 admirals is a joke they will not defeat all 3 maybe 2 against 2 they could win.
If I was wanking I would say the don't stand a chance against 2 admirals, I am saying all 3 is too much for them.
@5th said:
@One_Piece_God: Are you serious? What wanking is going on? Madara can spam combined Bijuu Damas that could destroy islands in a single blow.
I've never witnessed this in Naruto. You need to be more specific when you 'island' as they vary in size.
@TheNeutralOne said:
@GIRUGAMESH:
If intangibility was on it would be unfair. Characters in one piece don't even need it off to face the admirals yet the duo needs buffs while they get nerfed. That speaks volumes of what should happen here. Also kizaru did not use his passive logia effect. He simple seperated himself and waited for the explosion to end before putting himself back together. That isn't part of his intangibility that is just good battle strategy lol. But yes with that strategy he avoided that island buster.
I still see the admirals taking this. Their skills are really flexible to the situation and with the surprise factor on kizaru's side I don't see hashirama or madara dodging light speed attacks.
@5th said:
@TheNeutralOne: And if Genjutsu was on it would be unfair as all Madara or Hashirama has to do is put the Admirals under simple Genjutsu and destroy them
Good points however if verse equalization was on & knowledge was provided I say it again 3 admirals is too much for them.
@phantomrant said:
@One_Piece_God said:
Why is the 9 tails such a threat?
How big/powerful are giants/lil Oars in One Piece?
I personally do not believe Madara/karuma is a bigger threat Hashirama.
Because.... Kurama can spam a dozen TBBs, each of them being at least x5 more powerful than a typical TBB (with is easily a mountain level+ itself) ; all of that mounting up to solid island-level firepower. Firepower that completely shits on whatever OPverse has dished out.
But the thing is they can be easily countered/blocked/deflected. It does not matter if they can produce an attack with a bigger area of effect as it it can be countered.
I believe there is a lot of Naruto wanking going on here. I agree with some of the arguments brought up in this battle. Yes Madara/Karuma & Hashirama are strong but against all 3 admirals is a joke they will not defeat all 3 maybe 2 against 2 they could win.
@SpeedForceSpider said:
Chibaku Tensei.
What will this do?
Even with intangibility off this will be useless as other people have said any of the admirals will solo.
@FormerCrimsonKing:
- Intangibility off.
- Naruto can use Bijuu Bomb.
- Enel can use advent of thunder
- No holding back.
- All serious and in character
- Win by death
This is all I need to know to understand that Enel is the overall victor of this battle.
Why is the 9 tails such a threat?
How big/powerful are giants/lil Oars in One Piece?
I personally do not believe Madara/karuma is a bigger threat Hashirama.
@shinjihirako123: I'm sure you know that the RAVE verse is well above the HST.