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Battles » Deidara vs Erza Scarlet

@TheNobody: see the above post. She has two armour which let her fly, three if her flight armour actually lets her fly or just move really fast and jump high.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Deidara vs Erza Scarlet

@321zigzag1: You're right about the Jupiter cannon thing being around city block buster level. I was more referring to the lacrima that Laxus placed around the city. They were said to be able to destroy the entire town and Erza took out 200 of them by herself. Not really indicative of her being able to tank town buster damage but it definitely showed that she has some crazy durability.

Like I just said she her battle intelligence is very high, like say Natsu, Naruto or Goku. She can easily find out what weaknesses her opponent has and she can formulate a strategy on how to best defeat them. In terms of battle intelligence I place her above Deidara who is shown to sometimes make mistakes during battle and get caught out because of them. Deidara has effectively died twice.

Speed wise I put her above Deidara as well because of her flight armour.

The only threat that I see here is Deidara using C3 but that can be avoided or she could possibly use Flame Empress armour to reduce the flame damage by half. Just a theory but I'm sure she'd find away.

In terms of Deidara flying which seems to be the winning factor for Deidara here, Erza has her black wing armour with which she can also fly if needed and as I stated before she can fire sword pressure blasts like Sephiroth which can cut through steel. She can also fly with her Heaven's wheel armour.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Deidara vs Erza Scarlet

@TheNobody: I didn't say he's dumb but he's not as clever as you've made him out to be either. Using clones to trick people is ninja 101, he's no where near on the same level of Sasuke, Itachi etc. He's also lost to Sasuke and more embarrassingly lost to a Kankuro and Sai combo. He's not that great intelligence wise and clones aren't that great either. Old Naruto used to use clones all the time but when up against a superior opponent they're not much use.

Also she has her fairy armour so if there is a problem she can summon up to 200 swords and impale everything. Plus the speed thing I said earlier, she was on par with a guy who can easily move faster than super sonic speeds/possibly hypersonic? (even though it was just time manipulation).

Her real trick is just in how versatile she is. She can change and adapt to any situation and as far as battle intelligence goes she's very clever as she always finds a way to beat her opponent and you can't say the same for Deidara who got well and truly trumped by Sasuke.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Deidara vs Erza Scarlet

Oops didn't read the OP, she'd still win though, without lightening empress armour. Unless he used C3 but she could probably flee the area.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Deidara vs Erza Scarlet

Let's not underestimate Erza. She's shown herself to be able to tank blasts which were said to be able to obliterate towns and she took 200x the damage she can inflict on herself when she destroyed Laxus lacrima orbs. She can tank pretty much any attack, maybe not C3 but definitely anything else Deidara can throw at her.

Then she has her flight armour which let her fight against Racer, before she got 3v1ed. Racer is the guy that can do this.

So speed shouldn't be much of an issue because with that armour on she may possibly be even faster than Deidara.

She also has lightening empress armour with which she can fire lightening beams or multiple beams of lightening which would make Deidara's C3 useless. It would also severely limit what attacks Deidara could use against her.

Even normally she can slash with such ferocity that she can rip right through steel similar to what Sephiroth was doing. In the manga just recently she took on 100 monsters, some of which were said to be as strong as the 10 great wizard saints.

Erza would win this in my opinion.

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Battles » Team Uchiha Vs. Team Admirals

@TheNobody: I can't really comment on their speed, maybe they are hypersonic. Nothing specific has been stated so far.

Sasuke's kirin attack is a bit pants like Girugamesh said. He has to set it up first, then there's charge time and by the time he's got it charged up it's glaringly obvious how the attack works and can be countered fairly easily I think. Also it invariably costs a lot of chakra. Itachi could've easily countered it because it was such an obvious attack.

I do think Madara could take an admiral, but as a team the Admirals should be able to win this without too much hassle imo.

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Battles » Madara and Izuna vs Itachi and Sasuke

@Destinyheroknight: Why would he make up the part about Hashirama beating him lol

Hashirama must be stronger than EMS Madara because he beat him. Madara admitted it. I don't know how much more proof you could want. Madara raves on and on about Hashirama being the greatest ninja he ever knew.

Now I'm not saying Hashirama could beat EMS, rinnigan, senju cell Madara, he would probably lose quite bad but I'm fairly sure he could and did take EMS Madara.

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Battles » Kambei (Samurai7) vs Kenshin

Ah I didn't really know much about Kenshin, I thought he would've possibly had Kambei on technique but maybe not.

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Battles » Kambei (Samurai7) vs Kenshin

Fight starts 10m away

Both at peak

Both bloodlusted.

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Battles » Team Uchiha Vs. Team Admirals

I'm inclined to say Team OP now. All OP characters of such high level seem to be hypersonic+ in speed and I don't know if anyone in Naruto can even come close to such speed. I can imagine Naruto characters being near hypersonic speed at their very best but most likely just super sonic+.

Kizaru himself is capable of lightspeed once he gets going. Akainu has the power of magma which is probably as effective as Ametarasu, if not more effective. Aokiji probably wouldn't be so great here. Powerwise though you have to remember that the battle between Akainu and Aokiji completely changed the geology and atmosphere of an island, which is far beyond anything anyone in Naruto has shown, except for Madara.

Now Madara is the game changer here, he's massively OPed and can change an entire battlefield in seconds and then utilise every element of the now changed battlefield as he pleases. He can also create wood clones and each Wood clones can support a Susanoo. Then he has the Rinnegan which makes him practically a god and gives him access to every chakra type as well as all the other OTT powers the rinnegan has displayed. Now he has this perfect Susanoo, which has still to be revealed powers. However he has been "killed" quite a few times in his fight with the Kages and this is usually down to over confidence.

Itachi's a threat too but not a massive one. I can't imagine he'd connect with the sword of Totsuka because the admirals move too fast and the Yata shield is only stated to grant immunity to chakra based elemental attacks.

Sasuke won't be much good here imo, but has shown to have good team work with Itachi.

But like I said before I think the Speed and Sheer overwhelming power will give the admirals the advantage here. Madara's good but could quite possibly get speed blitzed and Akainu could easily set his forest alight with his Magma. Kizaru's lightspeed attacks should also pose a big problem and I don't think there's anyone fast enough to stop him from using his lightspeed attacks.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Laxus (Fairy Tail) vs Shippuuden Naruto

@TheNobody: You can see in the below 3 pictures that in one panel he is clearly crushed but in the next few panels he has turned into lightening. Laxus can turn himself into lightening and gains all of it's properties and as such can also move at the speed of lightening.

The below picture can also be used to show how he can turn into lightening and evade his opponent.

Forgive me for my poor picture posting skills, I'm clearly really bad at this. But either way Laxus would take this. Also it's only 4 tails Naruto, not current Naruto.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Off-Topic » What are your favorite TV shows outside of Anime?

I do like Two and half men (before they got rid of charlie sheen) and big bang theory, friends, cooking shows for some reason lol.

Also american dad, family guy before it became shit and simpsons before it became shit.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Laxus (Fairy Tail) vs Shippuuden Naruto

Laxus can make himself intangible to both physical and magical attacks by transforming into lightening itself. Seeing as Naruto can only go up to 4 tails, I'm going to take this as Naruto when he fought Orochimaru.

Laxus wins. He can use Fairy Law if he needs to which can easily wipe out an entire town, but I doubt he'd need to.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Team Uchiha Vs. Team Admirals

Haki and genjutsu should be off.

Haki gives team OP a pretty unfair advantage, they could simply just knock team Uchiha out, if that fails they can use haki to predict pretty much any attack team Uchiha do.

Also you haven't turned of logia intangibility so they can't be hurt.

At the same time team OP have no defence against genjutsu so that's pretty pointless.

Imo you should take off Edo forms, Logia intangibility, Genjutsu and Haki.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » kiba vs jacob

Kiba is a ninja. Jacob is just a werewolf, not even a great one at that.

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General Discussion » What expert are you?

@DCypher: Samurai 7 was amazing, I really think everyone should watch it at least once.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Off-Topic » whats the last you ate?!

Jacket potato with sausages and beans. Can't stop farting now lol.

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Battles » Goku vs Sailor Moon discussion

@DBZ_universe: Where is this Kid Buu destroying multiple galaxies coming from? Is there visual proof of any kind? Like I said I remember Kid Buu going from planet to planet and destroying them one at a time after he destroyed the Earth.

There's a difference between being a Universal threat because no one can match up to you and being a Universal threat because you can destroy the Universe in one attack. Broly is the first. He goes around destroying planets one at a time. There was the other video that showed that there was no way Broly destroyed the Southern Galaxy, at least not in one attack. I've read in another form that it was more likely that Broly was just going around the Southern Galaxy destroying all intelligent life. Once again this was Broly before he even turned LSSJ, so you can't possibly expect me to believe that Broly in a weakened form can destroy a galaxy but Broly as the LSSJ can only destroy planets. Even disregarding the fact that he lost to some FPSSJs there is no way he is a legit galaxy buster. It's like I said in that other thread, if Broly even fired of one ki blast with <0.00001% of his energy he would've destroyed the planet they were fighting on if as you say he was a galaxy destroyer.

Finally there's Omega Shenron. The most powerful villain in all of DB. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Syn_Shenron His most powerful attack is the negative Karma ball which is stated to be powerful enough to destroy the Earth with ease. Fair point, you would expect that much. But no where is it stated to be powerful enough to destroy a solar system, galaxy or the universe. More proof.

Gogeta kicks the Negative Karma Ball into space where it explodes not too far away from the Earth. Yet the Earth has sustained no damage whatsoever.

Do the maths for yourself, you'll find out that there is no legitimate solar system+ destroyer. Buuhan is the only one who has been shown to possibly be able to but only because he can cause two dimensions to merge, destroying both. There is no one who can destroy the universe with a ki attack.

Once again there's a difference between being a galaxy buster because you can destroy it one planet at a time and being a galaxy buster because you can take a galaxy out in one hit.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Goku vs Sailor Moon discussion

@ArtsyGal: Yeah I for one think Sailor Moon has this won. Most websites with power tiers usually have DBZ at planetary level and Sailor Moon at galactic. If most people actually stop and think about it, that's billions of times more powerful.

I miss the powerpuff girls and Mojojojo.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,507 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Goku vs Sailor Moon discussion

@rpgr: Yes Cell stated that but actual feats prove he can't do anything even close to Solar System Busting. Just think about how much bigger the solar system is compared to planet Earth and like I said before do the maths based on power levels. There was a thread earlier where I did a simple maths formula but I can't find it at the moment but basically the conclusion was that no one in DBZ can destroy the solar system.

Check through most threads, you'll realise that there aren't any legit solar system busters in DBZ unless it's some raving fanboy just yapping his mouth and providing no actual evidence or feats.

There's Goku putting quite a lot of energy into a Kamehama wave yet the most it can do it wipe out the Earth? Even when it hits Cell from point blank range, you would expect the Earth to be wiped out or something surely. Then there's Cell's early ki blast on the video. Cell looks a little fatigued after firing off the blast, yet at the most that looked like a mountain busting attack. If Cell was truly a solar system buster then an attack with <0.01% ki charge would easily wipe out the Earth.

In the maths equation I did I came to the conclusion that it would probably take a power level of 9000 to take out the Earth. That's a very low powerlevel and people have stated that it would take a lot more than that to take out the Earth, but let's just use 9000 for arguement's sake. The Sun is 1,300,000x times the volume of the Earth. There is no one in DBZ with anywhere near a power level that high, not even Gogeta and certainly not Cell.

I don't know if they are faster than light or not though, that's highly debatable but at the moment I'm leaning towards the fact that they are.

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