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Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Itachi Uchiha vs Minato Namikaze

@GIRUGAMESH: Actually if you read the manga fight between Edo Hashirama and Sarutobi, you can see that Sarutobi was screwed after Hashirama's first attack and had to summon Enma to even stand a chance. The anime put in a lot of filler which makes it seem that Sarutobi was putting up a fight when really he wasn't. The second time Hashirama attacked, once again Enma had to step in and save Sarutobi by putting him in a cage. And these were still the crappy edo's that Orochimaru used so they couldn't even fight anywhere near full power because they lacked intelligence and were ultimately sealed by Hiruzen. Basically the only reason Hiruzen didn't get stomped was because Enma is a ridiculously good summon (I wish he got more air time).

So if you go by actual manga feats you can't call Hashirama weak by an means and you can see why Kabuto's and Madara's statements still could stand and you can appreciate why Pein's, Itachi's and Kisame's statements still could stand.

Also Itachi destroyed Kakashi lol so even Orochimaru's statement still stands.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Itachi Uchiha vs Minato Namikaze

@SpeedForceSpider: It's unlikely he would use Izanagi or Izanami because of their terrible side effects. They're really desperation moves because once you use them, you lose one of your eyes. For a sharingan user who relies on his eyes a lot, you can imagine how bad that would be and neither of the moves guarantee success.

Also before anyone questions me, Itachi is my favourite character so I'm no fan wanking Minato or anything here just saying it as I see it.

@GIRUGAMESH: I agree with your feats>statements but when the statement is made by the enemy then I don't see how that works. Why would any enemy go out and say something that doesn't benefit them in any way or form. Surely not just for the sake of talking. 3 of the most powerful members in Akatsuki admitted that Jiraiya would beat them.

I can understand where you're coming from when you say you would like for there to have been more feats shown, but even so from the feats shown he's been able to take on 3 very powerful ninja and beat them in 1 hit. Speed wise, he's easily the fastest character seen in the series other that possibly current Naruto. That was stated by none other than the Raikage, who is one of the fastest characters. Raikage stated that even with his with his lightening release armour enhancing his speed and reflexes he was still outmatched by Minato. Now we know how Raikage was totally blitzing Sasuke during their fight and although Itachi is possibly a little bit faster than Sasuke, I doubt he is THAT much faster than Sasuke. Battle intelligence wise I would say they are both equals and are both probably the most intelligent ninja in the series so far.

The only thing that would give Minato trouble is Susanoo, because like you said he would have difficulty getting past it. But like I've said Itachi can't keep it up for long. Also like you said if it was a real fight, Minato would probably have a technique for it.

Whether Pein could take Minato is another debate all together. Personally I think Minato could take him, provided he was fighting all 6 forms at the same time. If he didn't know the technique then he would probably fall in a similar way to Jiraiya. Speed is the key with Minato, as has been shown so far. He can take out a high class ninja in seconds, in fact I would say he would probably have a harder time with someone like Itachi than he would with Pein (mostly because of Itachi's intelligence).

I doubt the jinchuruukis would pose much of a threat, they've been taken out by various Akatsuki members like Deidara, Kisame, Hidan + Kakazu etc.

Edit: IT would definitely be a close fight. There's not many people imo who could threaten Minato like Itachi.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Itachi Uchiha vs Minato Namikaze

@SpeedForceSpider: He took Tobi out in one hit, would've done the same with A if B had not interfered and would've killed B but B may have killed him too. Taking out Tobi in one hit is his biggest feat though, because not only did he take out Tobi in one hit but he also undid Tobi's control over the Kyuubi, which seems to have been his main intention. Yes, you might say he didn't KO Tobi, but he did enough damage to him to make him retreat. He also showed his genius level intellect during that fight as he figured out who the masked man was, his intentions and how to damage him in the space of a few seconds.

3 fights...all over in pretty much one move. I haven't seen anyone dominate as hard as he has in Naruto, it's sad his feats are so limited though but it's clear that he's a serious force to be reckoned with. Power-wise he cut right through B's tail and in his hands the rasengan was far more deadly than anything Naruto has shown, bar rasen-shuriken. He was able to take out hundreds of ninjas in seconds and a flee on sight order was given to him and that order seemed to apply to every ninja, as was shown during his fight with A.

He also showed that he can use Space-Time ninjutsu to warp away an attack as large as the bijuu bomb, what's to stop him from warping Itachi away or any attack Itachi uses against him? Minato effectively has Kakashi's MS without it causing him to suffer massive chakra loss.

Who do you think can beat him in a fight? I'd say maybe edo Madara, Hashirama or prime Sarutobi but other than that I think he's top.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Itachi Uchiha vs Minato Namikaze

@GIRUGAMESH: Jiraiya was an amazing ninja. I think Itachi's statement does still stand, at least until Itachi's death. Jiraiya would have beaten Pein if he hadn't been hit by a surprise attack and lost his arm. A ninja without an arm is pretty much useless because they can't form seals anymore. Pein himself admitted that there was no way he would have won had he not kept his secret. I'd wager Jiraiya was more powerful than any of the current Kage and we know that he would've been the Leaf's Kage if he hadn't turned the position down. Think about how easily he took Konan down, he made her look like a rookie if you need further proof of his power. He just didn't get a lot of fight time so people tend to think he's weaker than he actually is.

But like I said even Pein admitted he would've lost to Jiraiya, Itachi said the best he could hope for was a draw and Kisame outright stated that he couldn't beat him.

Itachi isn't as powerful as he's made out to be. We have to completely disregard Izanagi and Izanami because he would never use them unless he wasn't planning on living much longer after this fight. He's definitely a great ninja, easily Kage level, but he's not the greatest ninja in the Narutoverse as a lot of people seem to be thinking, not even close.

I say he'd still get outright speedblitzed by Minato, who by Raikage's own admission was a man who could not be surpassed. If anyone needs further proof of his power he was able to warp one of the Kyuubi's blasts and was fighting well against the Kyuubi without the sharingan or senju cells. A lot of people seem to forget just how powerful the kyuubi was because kyuubi keeps getting tamed by the sharingan or senju. Kyuubi was said to be able to destroy mountains and cause tsunami's with the flick of it's tail.

Then, like said he made Tobi look like a clown. He also made Raikage and B look like clowns too. Plus, as I've stated before he can do BFR. He teleported they Kyuubi at least a couple of kilometers away from the battlefield and the Kyuubi is massive. If necessary he could always teleport Itachi away to wherever. During his fight with Tobi he'd undone Tobi's control over the Kyuubi before Tobi had even realised.

Minato is probably the most powerful ninja in the entire Narutoverse. That is all.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Itachi Uchiha vs Minato Namikaze

@All_StarSupes: That's just one example and unfortunately we don't have many more examples but it doesn't matter whether you charge him or not, he's still going to be charging around the battlefield and as soon as you attack him he'll have tagged you and then you're boned. He even tagged Tobi who's only tangible for seconds and then after that he could just teleport to wherever Tobi was, trust me tagging Itachi wouldn't be too much of a problem. Intelligence isn't much of a problem, unless you're saying Tobi is stupid?

And before anyone says Itachi can keep up with his sharingan, what happened when Sasuke tried to do a point blank Amaterasu to Raikage? Minato is simply too fast and he can BFR. The only possibly threats that I forsee in this battle are Tsukiyomi (If he can connect) and Susanoo (If he can connect).

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Rave Master vs. Fairy tail Team Battle

@Haofan123 said:

The moment I saw rave in the title i knew that this would be a curbstomp

^This.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Itachi Uchiha vs Minato Namikaze

The current kage seem to be the weakest set yet. Tsunade isn't anywhere near up to par. A isn't nearly as good as the Kage before him who was pretty much invincible and Minato had the upper hand against him in their scuffle. Tsuchikage is old and out of his prime. The 2nd Mizukage seemed to have been a lot more powerful than the current and was able to take the Tsuchikage out (even though it ended up being a clone). Only Gaara seems to be more powerful than his predecessor. The point is don't compare the old Kage to the current Kage because the new ones aren't as good imo.

As for this fight I think Minato is being severely underestimated and once again Itachi is being massively overestimated. Itachi himself admitted that if he had fought Jirayai the fight would've ended in a draw and both Itachi and Kisame ran from Jirayai after. Tsukiyomi's a powerful genjutsu but it only works if you make eye contact and Minato moves so fast it would be hard to for Itachi to make eye contact intentionally. It's probably the same reason why Sasuke didn't just use Tsukiyomi on the Raikage or any of the other kage.

And on the topic of Raikage.

Then Minato got an order to retreat. But Raikage tried attacking him again and this happened.

Minato would've killed the Raikage in one move if Bee hadn't intervened and he would've killed Bee too (although Bee would've also possible killed him). There's a reason why it was common knowledge that if you saw Minato you were to flee on sight and once he's flung those kunai around the battlefield it's nigh on impossible to stop him and Raikage himself stated that there "was never a man who could surpass him".

He also defeated Tobi and that's no easy feat given Tobi's intangibility. Btw Itachi didn't defeat Tobi, he merely set a trap for him which could've killed him but I don't believe Itachi was even aware of Tobi's space time ninjutsu.

Itachi's Susanoo could prove a problem but it has such a high chakra cost it's unlikely Itachi could maintain it for long. Minato could easily teleport around avoiding Susanoo's attacks until Itachi ran out of chakra or if necessary Minato can easily do BFR on Itachi as was shown during his fight with the Kyuubi.

Minato's not stupid either, he had the foresight to tag B during his fight with A and B and he figured out how to defeat Tobi in their brief scuffle which shows that in terms of battle intelligence he is as smart as Itachi.

I'm giving this fight to Minato.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Erza Scarlet vs Sora

Yeah I sometimes forget how OPed Sora is.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Erza Scarlet vs Sora

@DBZ_universe: True. Maybe she has a heal armour lol

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Erza Scarlet vs Sora

@DBZ_universe: Yep even her reflexes are quite impressive as on the next page you can see her dodging multiple lasers and then a "torrent of needles"

And her proficiency with swords is such that she can fight well using even her feet.

She's also shown herself to have a degree of telekinesis which is why she can use her Heaven's Wheel armour so effectively. She can also block some attacks from hitting her with her telekinesis.

@SpeedForceSpider: Magical attacks they wouldn't be very useful because she can requip into an armour which can greatly reduce the damage of magic. So far she has shown to have armour for flame, water and lightening to such a degree that the magic inflicts almost no damage to her. She owns over 100 types of armour so she would have an appropriate armour for most situations.

I think it would be quite close with speed equalised.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Erza Scarlet vs Sora

@othus12: It's 1v1 so no drive forms for Sora or Trinity Limits.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Palkia vs MetalTyrannomon

With my limited knowledge I'm going to give this to Palika because he can also fly.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Jimbei vs Kisame vs Hody Jones vs Tier Halibel

Jimbei>Hody>Kisame. I don't know where to put Halibel though, I don't really follow Bleach but I imagine she'd probably be as strong as or slightly stronger than Jimbei.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Erza Scarlet vs Sora

@DBZ_universe: You're right I'll equalise speed. I'll also take off drive forms for Sora.

In terms of strength I'll show you this feat of Erza's. http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111230044860/fairytail/images/f/f3/Erza%27s_enhanced_strength.gif (it won't let me post the actual gif). She can casually slice through steel as well, although granted it's no skyscraper but she could possibly do it, especially after time skip. She wasn't even using her best attack armour.

She has really good durability too. She's tanked giant explosions and during the fight with Azuma she tanked his strongest attack twice, which looked at least like a city block buster.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » imperialdramon vs wargreymon

@TheBlackDragonz: Yeah I believe dramon gauntlets are meant to be effective vs dragon types as far as I can remember. Still I think Imperialdramon should win this because he's a dna digivolution which should make him a little bit more powerful imo.

" It is said that the power to destroy a planet dwells in its attacks" Imperialdramon fighter mode. Imperialdramon is meant to be really powerful even amongst mega level digimon.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Erza Scarlet vs Sora

- In character

- 50m away

- Speed equalized

- Erza has access to all armours

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » RADITZ VS AVENGERS

There's so many threads on this site like SS4 Goku vs Thor or Goku vs Hulk. Even with those guys DBZ still loses and with Raditz it's gonna be a curb stomp.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Off-Topic » Who do you think is faster?

This thread is far too old. Think what you want I don't really care anymore. Peace.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hao Asakura (Shaman King) vs. Xenmas (Kingdom Hearts)

@Haofan123: Yeah it's one of those rare times where the "bad guy" wins.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,534 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Battles » Hao Asakura (Shaman King) vs. Xenmas (Kingdom Hearts)

Hao can absorb someone's soul by just looking at them. He's fused with the great spirit and is pretty much a god.

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