@TheNobody: You can see in the below 3 pictures that in one panel he is clearly crushed but in the next few panels he has turned into lightening. Laxus can turn himself into lightening and gains all of it's properties and as such can also move at the speed of lightening.
The below picture can also be used to show how he can turn into lightening and evade his opponent.
Forgive me for my poor picture posting skills, I'm clearly really bad at this. But either way Laxus would take this. Also it's only 4 tails Naruto, not current Naruto.
Laxus can make himself intangible to both physical and magical attacks by transforming into lightening itself. Seeing as Naruto can only go up to 4 tails, I'm going to take this as Naruto when he fought Orochimaru.
Laxus wins. He can use Fairy Law if he needs to which can easily wipe out an entire town, but I doubt he'd need to.
@DBZ_universe: Where is this Kid Buu destroying multiple galaxies coming from? Is there visual proof of any kind? Like I said I remember Kid Buu going from planet to planet and destroying them one at a time after he destroyed the Earth.
There's a difference between being a Universal threat because no one can match up to you and being a Universal threat because you can destroy the Universe in one attack. Broly is the first. He goes around destroying planets one at a time. There was the other video that showed that there was no way Broly destroyed the Southern Galaxy, at least not in one attack. I've read in another form that it was more likely that Broly was just going around the Southern Galaxy destroying all intelligent life. Once again this was Broly before he even turned LSSJ, so you can't possibly expect me to believe that Broly in a weakened form can destroy a galaxy but Broly as the LSSJ can only destroy planets. Even disregarding the fact that he lost to some FPSSJs there is no way he is a legit galaxy buster. It's like I said in that other thread, if Broly even fired of one ki blast with <0.00001% of his energy he would've destroyed the planet they were fighting on if as you say he was a galaxy destroyer.
Finally there's Omega Shenron. The most powerful villain in all of DB. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Syn_Shenron His most powerful attack is the negative Karma ball which is stated to be powerful enough to destroy the Earth with ease. Fair point, you would expect that much. But no where is it stated to be powerful enough to destroy a solar system, galaxy or the universe. More proof.
Gogeta kicks the Negative Karma Ball into space where it explodes not too far away from the Earth. Yet the Earth has sustained no damage whatsoever.
Do the maths for yourself, you'll find out that there is no legitimate solar system+ destroyer. Buuhan is the only one who has been shown to possibly be able to but only because he can cause two dimensions to merge, destroying both. There is no one who can destroy the universe with a ki attack.
Once again there's a difference between being a galaxy buster because you can destroy it one planet at a time and being a galaxy buster because you can take a galaxy out in one hit.
@ArtsyGal: Yeah I for one think Sailor Moon has this won. Most websites with power tiers usually have DBZ at planetary level and Sailor Moon at galactic. If most people actually stop and think about it, that's billions of times more powerful.
@rpgr: Yes Cell stated that but actual feats prove he can't do anything even close to Solar System Busting. Just think about how much bigger the solar system is compared to planet Earth and like I said before do the maths based on power levels. There was a thread earlier where I did a simple maths formula but I can't find it at the moment but basically the conclusion was that no one in DBZ can destroy the solar system.
Check through most threads, you'll realise that there aren't any legit solar system busters in DBZ unless it's some raving fanboy just yapping his mouth and providing no actual evidence or feats.
There's Goku putting quite a lot of energy into a Kamehama wave yet the most it can do it wipe out the Earth? Even when it hits Cell from point blank range, you would expect the Earth to be wiped out or something surely. Then there's Cell's early ki blast on the video. Cell looks a little fatigued after firing off the blast, yet at the most that looked like a mountain busting attack. If Cell was truly a solar system buster then an attack with <0.01% ki charge would easily wipe out the Earth.
In the maths equation I did I came to the conclusion that it would probably take a power level of 9000 to take out the Earth. That's a very low powerlevel and people have stated that it would take a lot more than that to take out the Earth, but let's just use 9000 for arguement's sake. The Sun is 1,300,000x times the volume of the Earth. There is no one in DBZ with anywhere near a power level that high, not even Gogeta and certainly not Cell.
I don't know if they are faster than light or not though, that's highly debatable but at the moment I'm leaning towards the fact that they are.
If you actually look at power levels and do some maths it's fairly obvious that no one in DBZ is even a star buster, let alone a galaxy buster. Although Buuhan is a potential universe destroyer, just purely because of his Vice Shout which can cause one dimension to merge with another, destroying both.
@SpeedForceSpider: I couldn't find just the clip so if you watch it from :30 to about 2:45 thats the opening scene where he takes on a massive army and cleaves a battleship in two. Also if you want to watch a great anime this was one of the greatest animes I've ever seen and I've seen quite a few. The English dub seems pretty rubbish though.
@DBZ_universe: I remember Kid Buu going from planet to planet, destroying each planet one at a time and then reforming himself. I really don't think anyone in DBZ was a galaxy buster (Not even Non-Canon Broly).
Well I've been on this site for a little while now and I've noticed that some people tend to know more about certain anime/manga than others so the aim of this thread is to see what particular anime/manga people think they have good knowledge in. Some people even tend to specialize in comics information. So what are you an expert on?
As for me I would have to say I have good knowledge about Naruto and One Piece. I'd like to say DBZ but I'm still learning new things about it every day.
They will stomp through Day 1 and 2. Onoki could probably take out Konan, Hidan and possibly Sasori but would ultimately fall before the overwhelming numbers and Pein, Kakazu and Kisame. Day 2 would be a stomp without too many losses imo with Kizame taking down the Mizukage. If somehow she did beat Kisame, she would lose to Pein or Kakazu.
They'd lose on Day 3. Given the losses they've already attained they're forces are pretty depleted. They've probably got about 7000-8000 Zetsu and only Pein, Kakazu and Kisame left (Provided he beat the Mizukage.) Kisame will lose to the Raikage and Killer Bee. Gaara will provide a real match for Kakazu but with Kakazu gaining the upper hand the rest of the Sand Village will have to help him out. Everyone else faces Pein and when Raikage, Killer Bee and Gaara are done they will help them get the win. Pein is defintely the real threat here but I think he would fall eventually. Zetsu army would get overrun by Shinobi army who probbaly contains quite a few powerful jonin level ninja (Zetsu seems about Chounin level to me).
Personally I'm leaning towards Kambei. He could easily take out several giant mechs and could deflect bullets with ease. Gray-Fox can deflect bullets but he lost to Metal Gear Rex, who I think Kambei could've beaten.
@The_original_goku10000: I really don't think Raditz was faster than light, at least not without straining himself and even then he could only do it to dodge one attack. Personally though I think that whole scene was a load of BS.
It's clear there that Frieza's attack was moving at near enough lightspeed, if not lightspeed itself .The others saw nothing but Vegeta was at a high enough power level to not only see it but dodge it and kick Gohan out of the way as well. There's definitely a correlation between speed and power and I've seen in another forum a scan of Vegeta stating Speed=Power.
Having said that Piccolo, Gohan and Krillen are all pretty powerful and even they only saw a flash. This does make me think that Frieza's attack was indeed faster than light. It also indicates that Vegeta can at least react to lightspeed attacks and save not only himself but another too.
There's also calculations in the thread which show that if power = speed than Goku was probably lightspeed somewhere into the Cell saga.
I don't know what to believe in anymore. Sometimes I think DBZ characters are hypersonic and at other times they seem to be FTL. Damn you Toriyama!!! Why couldn't you just tell us their speed!?!