"HOWEVER, using light laser beam dodging feats in this debate is pointless. We have no idea how fast those laser beams are travelling, just because they're laser beams does not mean they are light speed. If we're going to go down that route then I can easily post this.
Saitama easily dodges a laser beam at the very last second. Even Genos is faster than the laser beam. Does this mean Genos is FTL? No of course it doesn't. "
Of course you can. But that's not a laser, or a beam. Thats a concentrated energy blast.
"As well as this are you trying to tell me that Gaoh is faster than Buranchi? Buranchi is the only one that I've seen with a stated speed and there is no way in hell Gaoh is faster than him. Not that I'm saying Buranchi's slow either, not by any means but he himself has stated that he can only get to Mach 30 when exerting himself."
Mach 30? lmao Buranchi is Mach 30k. And I'm definitely not going to call Gaoh lightspeed. That's what I would call aim dodging.
"Same theory applies to the Mappy feat you posted and the Sani feat. You've stated that the laser beams in Sani's shown feat were light speed but no where is it stated in the manga they were lightspeed. There is in fact no indication of their speed."
They are called "laser rain". And Nosh is probably faster than Buranchi. Because Buranchi said he cannot "quite yet" go at the speed of light. And Buranchi was a 3rd tier in Toriko verse. It makes perfect sense that 3 disciples are therefore, in the very least, Mach 30,000. The Blue Oni was likely faster than this as well.
"Hence why I still say that whilst Toriko has some impressive speed feats, they are still only massively hypersonic. With the top 3 guys probably in Mach 100s but I wouldn't go higher than that."
Nope. A 3rd tier in Toriko goes Mach 30,000. A top tier will go so much higher. Go with power scaling on this.
Ah thanks for clearing that Mach 30k up. I was going off another thread where everyone was saying Mach 30. Either way though, it changes nothing because the speed of light is Mach 881,000. I don't know how much you want to powerscale here but I wouldn't go that high personally. I'd still stick at Mach 100 (Or Mach 100k) as you have kindly informed me. But lets say for interests sake they're 10x faster than Buranchi, that's Mach 300,000. Still not near light speed.
As well as this, look at the way Buranchi says "Freaking Mach 30k". He's obviously very impressed with that speed further adding credibility to the fact that even top Toriko characters won't likely be able to travel much faster than this.
Also I agree with you stating that it's aim dodging, I just wanted to hear you guys say it instead of me because that's all it is, aim dodging. Even Batman dodges bullets, it doesn't make him able to move at the speed of sound though.
If you could post that statement of Buranchi saying he can't quite go lightspeed yet. That would help clear things up as to whether or not they can move at such speeds because all I've seen so far are assumptions.