@TheNobody: He said no edo
@TheNobody: He said no edo
2) Edo Madara Uchiha
3) Prime Hiruzen Sarutobi
4) Minato Namikaze
5) Hashirama Senju
6) Madara Uchiha
7) Tobirama Senju
8) Old Hiruzen
11) Itachi Uchiha (Because if someone read this they'd be like "OMFG where's ITACHI NOOOB!!!" <---He's number 11
Pretty good chapter all in all.
Lol at Luffy still dominating, he's defintely become a lot more powerful after the timeskip, which I for one, like a lot. He's proven himself to be a possible contender.
Any ideas on who the guy at the end was or is it a new character altogether.
Have any of you ever thought that the galaxy busting feat was PIS? Or ever noticed that in the DBZ movies the movie usually starts with the villain performing a massive show of power then never replicating such a feat again? E.g. Janemba warping the entire dimension but then still getting tagged by Goku after, if his reality warping was as great as was first shown surely he could perform more impressive reality warping feats when desperate.
@Haofan123: I totally agree with that thread. DBZ characters definitely have shown themselves to be FTL when dodging attacks but I can also agree that the tend to lose speed the longer they keep moving.
This is one the better examples I can think of. He dodges the attack but then the longer he runs for the faster it catches up to him until he just turns around and takes the hit.
I'm sorry but where in that fight did it even look like Hiruzen had a chance. He got demolished and was barely able to keep up. Shodaime and Nidaime would only either defend themselves or attack when told to by Orochimaru. He tagged them because they were mindless zombies and they attacked without any strategy whatsoever and then eventually, Hiruzen, realising he had no hope of winning sealed them and himself.
Am I missing something here? Do you all think Hiruzen was like jonin level or something so the feat isn't as impressive because I'm sure he was still stronger than any of the current kage. Age shouldn't make a massive difference seeing as how the Tsuchikage is probably the strongest kage at the moment and looks even older than Hiruzen.
Gildarts punched Bluenote so hard he sent him stratospheric and casually threw Natsu into the ceiling.
Bluenote would just push everyone against the ground, except for maybe the strongest members who would barely be able to move.
Fairy Law takes seconds to use but Makaraov likes to count to 3 to give his opponent a chance to repent.
Fairy Tail. Gildarts can crush anything, tangible or intangible. Makarov can use Fairy Law and was holding off Acnologia who destroyed an island with ease. Hades has limited reality warping powers, such as bringing life to inanimate objects.
@eddz99: In his prime he most likely was yes. We only have statements to go by though but he was said to have learned every jutsu in Konoha which is a very impressive feat and he was taught by two of the best kage ever.
@Yusuke52: If you read the manga they appear very strong anyway. Like I said above the anime filled it out a lot and made them look weaker. From the manga we have basically 3 feats shown during that fight.
1) Nidaime creating a really powerful water wall with no water source near by. The wall was powerful enough to stop a kage level fire attack and shocked the anbu watching.
2) Hashirama creating a small forest and trapping Hiruzen.
3) Hashirama about to kill Hiruzen but Hiruzen is saved by Enma.
I've read somewhere that Imperialdramon fighter mode was a potential planet buster. Although it is fighter mode, I don't think Dragon mode should be that much weaker. Also isn't dragon mode able to travel at near light speed.
@FMStyyx: Neither has Minato (Kyuubi doesn't count).
Chakra does not equal power. Kisame could summon hundreds of sharks but would you say he was more powerful than Hiruzen or Minato? Would you say chuunin exam Naruto was more powerful than Minato? That's the point I was making.
@FormerCrimsonKing: Even though Laxus can turn into lightening and pretty much teleport, or at least move as fast as lightening? Destructive power definitely goes to Naruto but speed and intelligence would go to Laxus after Naruto transforms, but yeah 4 tails Naruto is a beast and could possibly take this. Although Laxus still has Fairy Law, which he could use while Naruto charges up a bijuu bomb.