@TheVectorPrime: Nice post, almost all the DBZ movies are PIS lol because the bad guy is always shown to have overwhelming power but still loses in the end. But yeah it's like I said in the other thread, Janemba's reality warping powers are impressive, more impressive than people give him credit for, but he would just get a beat down from Hades similar to how he got a beat down from Gogeta.
Would I be wrong to assume that Goku at SS3 is nearing galaxy buster levels. I say this because Cell was said to be a solar system buster, which I can believe seeing as Frieza was a casual planet buster. We all know Broly's a galaxy buster and although SS3 Goku isn't as powerful as Broly, as has been discussed in other threads, he's still a lot more powerful than Cell. Edit: Actually I believe this was before Broly even turned LSSJ, so SS3 Goku could be a galaxy buster.
Personally I think it's plausible and just because it doesn't happen in the fights doesn't mean they can't do it i.e. Broly destroying a galaxy. This should also mean most of the DBZ characters can tank equally powerful attacks seeing as how the planet and themselves don't just get wiped out with every attack, unless the attacker holds themselves back when attacking regularly.
If anyone agrees with this, then can Thor tank blasts that are near galactic level in damage, provided Goku decides he's just going to fight for the win.
@SilverSavage: Good post. I don't think the Akatsuki stand much chance here other than using high level genjutsu, which shouldn't really be allowed seeing as I'm sure logia intangibility is turned off as well as haki.
The fight doesn't end but the author states Sephiroth would've won but Xemnas death sequence was too long or something. I know it doesn't really prove much lol but it was just an interesting find.
I'd still say Sephiroth and Zack could take this. Sephiroth has pretty much always been the hardest enemy in both games and his attacks show it so in terms of the Sephiroth in the game, and his ability to do wide area damaging attacks I think Sephiroth would win this with a little help from Zack.
"-Created Hell
-Created The Wailing Wall that the Gold Saints had to sacrifice their lives against
-Created a space of "Billions of Galaxies" after cet wall
-The above space could destroy Gold Saints and their armor without divine protection
-Created Elysian at the other end of the above space
-Can create a barrier to put Gold Saints to 1/10th of their powers even Galaxy level ones
-In his weaker form he casually moved the planets of the Solar system cross dimensions
-His minion Thanatos could find and attack people across light years
-His minions Thanatos and Hypnos can manhandle multiple Gold Saint levels
-His minion Thanatos shattered 5 Gold Cloths easily(They can handle star level)
-His armor can negate absolute 0
-His sword can cut through armor superior to Gold Cloths
-His sword can drain the opponent of their power and prevent them from reincarnating
-He can give life to dead characters and control the time of their lifespan
-Manhandling 5 opponents who could fodderise Thanatos without them powering up
-Gold Saints can deal a 100 million strikes per sec, powerscale for Hades
-His soul could move at massively FTL speeds
Hell+Wailing Wall+The space after+Elysian are part of his one universe/dimension called the Super dimension. He could solo any universe that does'nt have 2-3 universals."
That's a post from another forum by someone called Tranquil Fury that I used in another thread about Hades power.
Also Gogeta didn't just beat Janemba he absolutely stomped on him. Now I'm going to give Gogeta some credit here, because to be honest he is possibly a galaxy buster, like Broly. But it's already been said several times in several different debates that you can find on this website that no one in DBZ could move FTL and as we know speed is always a big factor in a fight, especially when your opponent can move several times FTL. Hades can also take on opponents who are star busters easily, as stated above.
So in conclusion, I agree with you in that yes Janemba does have impressive reality manipulation powers. But, just as was with Gogeta, it counts for jack shit in the face of pure overwhelming power.
@Killer_of_trolls: Lol, I don't know much about KK other than his fights with Superboy/Batman. Let's say it's when he fought Superboy then.
I think Hayato could still do this. I retract my earlier statement that the Superboy statement was PIS because I believe that Superboy wasn't attacking at full strength because let's be honest if he was flying at lightspeed he would probably cause serious landscape damage, if that makes any sense. Also he kind of just used Superboy's momentum against him and got him in a headlock for a little while, admitting he couldn't hold him for long. We also know that both Marvel and DC are very inconsistent with showings of their top tier characters.
Hayato has been shown to a master martial artist even when using 0.0001% of his power and not even concentrating on the fight. He can bend battleship cannons with ease and flip tanks over just as easily and can move so fast that even at 1/1000th of a second only a blur could be seen as he performed a low kick. That's some serious speed no matter how you look at it, rivalling even Dragonball speeds.
I think it would be a very good fight, definitely not a stomp for either.
Let's say KK in his prime.
At the end of the day Janemba was defeated effortlessly by Gogeta despite all his reality manipulation powers. Now if you expect me to believe Gogeta is stronger than Hades, well you should probable give up.
@niBBit: When she was giving birth she was causing psychic disturbances all over the city it says on FEAR wiki so it's certainly plausible that she can cause city wide damage, but definitely not on the scale that Lucy can, seeing as Lucy can attack pretty much anywhere in the world. At 20m though it should be down to whomever can strike first, possibly Alma because her powers would require just a thought whereas Lucy uses vectors.
I think it would come down to whomever strikes first. Alma can liquefy people with a thought but Lucy's Vectors can attack pretty fast too.
Remember when edo Pein used Chibaku Tensei and it got taken down by Naruto, Itachi and B. Same thing would happen here, all the missiles that got sucked in would explode or they could just fire at the ball and it would get destroyed. As far as we know edo forms give the user near unlimited chakra and it didn't do Pein much good. Also as stated by Pein himself his technique was inferior to the Six Sages and as far as we know/has been shown he can't create anything as large as the moon.
This thread should be done by now. Overwhelming majority has clearly identified Hades as the winner.
If Tobi could just warp to someone's office like that I doubt Tsunade would still be around. There's obviously some kind of limitation on where he can warp too, otherwise like I just said he could warp to where Naruto was and just kidnap him while he's sleeping.
Outside of Tobi's warping abilities there's no way Akatsuki can win this. Anyone heard of F22s? They can fire missiles at the Akatsuki from way up high where only Deidara could reach them. Let's say Deidara does start flying around, think of all the anti-air weapons the US have. He'd be shot down in a second. Tactical artillery strikes would do a lot of damage too and then you have all the tanks and infantry, I doubt even Itachi's Susanoo can withstand that much damage. Plus if any akatsuki member lets their guard down for a second, chances are they'll get shot by a sniper. Then tactical missile strikes which are far more powerful even Deidara's C0 etc etc.
Total active members of US military: 1,458,697.
@Sonata: Oh yeah ofc but I think Flacco vs Takami is a perfect match up instead of Dilfer lol. Both were frustrated QBs and I think Takami would have the edge over Flacco because of his receiver Sakuraba. Also I had to slow the Ravens down a little otherwise 2000 Ravens would probably stomp lol.
Shin's pretty much a one man team, he'd definitely be giving Flacco some trouble.
"-Created Hell
-Created The Wailing Wall that the Gold Saints had to sacrifice their lives against
-Created a space of "Billions of Galaxies" after cet wall
-The above space could destroy Gold Saints and their armor without divine protection
-Created Elysian at the other end of the above space
-Can create a barrier to put Gold Saints to 1/10th of their powers even Galaxy level ones
-In his weaker form he casually moved the planets of the Solar system cross dimensions
-His minion Thanatos could find and attack people across light years
-His minions Thanatos and Hypnos can manhandle multiple Gold Saint levels
-His minion Thanatos shattered 5 Gold Cloths easily(They can handle star level)
-His armor can negate absolute 0
-His sword can cut through armor superior to Gold Cloths
-His sword can drain the opponent of their power and prevent them from reincarnating
-He can give life to dead characters and control the time of their lifespan
-Manhandling 5 opponents who could fodderise Thanatos without them powering up
-Gold Saints can deal a 100 million strikes per sec, powerscale for Hades
-His soul could move at massively FTL speeds
Hell+Wailing Wall+The space after+Elysian are part of his one universe/dimension called the Super dimension. He could solo any universe that does'nt have 2-3 universals."
That's a post from another forum by someone called Tranquil Fury. They seem to know what they're talking about and from the feats given I would think Hades was stronger than everyone on the list except possibly Galactus whose feats I am not too sure about. Is Galactus a multiversal threat?
Defence vs Defence.
Joe Flacco vs Takami Ichiro (6ft6) vs (6ft4) Arguably Takami is better though.
Ray Lewis vs Shin Seijuro. Shin Seijuro was I believe said to be able to bench 140kg with one arm and he runs the 40 in 4.2 by the end.
Ojo has its star players but Ravens has a whole team known for its brutal defence and better than average offence lol.
Playing at Lucas Oil Stadium.
2011 Ravens vs Final Ojo White Knights.
Have fun :D
I can't remember much about Xemnas except that he can teleport short distances and can surround someone with lasers, I don't really know if it would be enough to give him the edge over Pein.
@Sinister_Noob: I think it's more to do with the fact that he can adapt to new environments really quickly, hence why poisons don't work on him either.
Yeah Magneto's powerful but not powerful enough to face Vegeta.
