@DBZ_universe: I think it was a Charizard lol.
@niBBit: Yeah I agree, that's why I believe they should've ended the manga at the Frieza saga. The rest of it is just like a less crappy version of GT.
@GIRUGAMESH: Yeah the fights became a lot more toned down after the Frieza saga wherein Goku's and Frieza's battle effectively was destroying Namek until Frieza actually went and blew it up. After that you would think that they would be casually blowing up planets just with their fighting but feat wise they were a lot worse.
Honestly DBZ feats make no sense after the Frieza saga and are very inconsistent. How the Earth was still there up until Kid Buu finally blew it up is beyond me.
@GIRUGAMESH: Yeah I agree with this. Even the x50 power up from turning SSJ became incredibly inconsistent later on in the series, especially after they introduced SS2 and 3. There's no way it was x50 increase after those two transformations came.
I've heard that originally Toriyama wanted to stop the manga after the Frieza saga but the fans and probably the money made him carry on. It's kind of reflected in the story really because a lot of things that made sense before the Frieza saga got thrown out the window and the whole manga became very inconsistent because of it. Power levels in particular became very skewed.
But like Girugamesh said, at least you tried to rationalise the power levels and we commend you for trying.
I feel like humans have become so much worse since they stopped fearing the wrath of God and now embrace sin more than ever. Greed, Lust but to name a few are now openly accepted and it only spells bad news for us. I hear this is the first generation where the children are expected to live shorter lives than their parents because of all the crap they eat and their sedentary lifestyles. I believe that just the belief in God and more importantly the fear people had helped them lead better lives.
That's my personal belief anyway.
@Haofan123 said:You aren't the only one.
I hate the fact that shitty threads like these get all the attention while the good ones are ignored
Oh wow I thought I was the only one too. I guess it's just easy posts for people.
@Haofan123: Personally I think it would be pretty close, but you're thinking Vash take this then? I should mention the fist thing, he didn't actually hit it in the same spot 5 times. He just shot it enough to make it change it's trajectory.
Shooting the wings of a flies back is a lot more impressive a feat I would argue. But still Vash is pretty amazing, bullet dodging wise I think he has the big advantage.
Although it could be argued that Vash has better feats of bullet dodging. He's shown himself to easily be able to dodge the bullets of many machine guns at about a 2m range without even trying and he dodged an explosive as it was going off at his feet. He even dodges bullets at point blank range from different directions so Train would have trouble hitting him imo.
Vash only has his revolver, no angel arm or anything.
Wesley's been stated to never miss in the comics. He shot the wings of, I believe it was 6 flies, without causing any other damage to the flies and this was before he could control his power. He effectively has bullet time and can use knives to deflect bullets back at their user.
@ReiKai: The first one is a target shooting competition and the other has them with angel arm and rail gun. This is just a straight up duel like competition. Plus they're both over a year old, but fair point if a mod wants to close this then fair enough.
Train's pretty good, he's shown himself to be near/at hypersonic speeds and his accuracy is really impressive too. He once shot 4 bullets into the same hole of a spinning can and commented that his skills were rusty, can intercept other people's bullets and can ricochet bullets of walls.
If we go by Digimon Adventure showings, Machinedramon got destroyed by Wargreymon in one slash, even though he did cause Wargreymon to dedigivolve.
Personally I put Imperialdramon above Wargreymon so IMO this would be a win for Imperialdramon.