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Battles » The Sannin vs The Current Kage

I don't think Raikage's speed would be too much of a factor. He's shown he has amazing speed and he's easily faster than both but at the same time he's not very clever when it comes to strategy and sacrificed his arm while fighting Sasuke. He also would have likely died if he had done his leg drop move onto Sasuke's Amaterasu.

So on that note Orochimaru wouldn't struggle too much against his speed because of how easily he can maneuver around other people's techniques. He is like a snake after all and I think Raikage would have real trouble connecting with him, in fact I can imagine he'd be a real nightmare for someone like A who prefers to attack head on.

Jiraiya himself is the real beast here, easily better than any of the Kage in a 1v1.

"His strength was so great that even powerful members of Akatsuki either were easily subdued like Konan while others like Itachi Uchiha and Kisame Hoshigaki, a master of the Sharingan and former member of the Seven Mist Swordsmen respectively, opted not to face him in battle, fearing that the very best they could do together against Jiraiya would end in a stalemate. Kisame even noted that he was no match for Jiraiya saying he was "on a whole other level." Itachi stated that even if they had reinforcements, the result would be no different. Minato Namikazealso acknowledged his master's power, skills, and mindset. Even Nagato, a former student of his, was nearly defeated despite outnumbering Jiraiya, causing the younger opponent to marvel Jiraiya's abilities, noting that he could have been beaten by Jiraiya had he had prior knowledge of his "secret" From Naruto wiki. Yes I know it's very lazy of me lol but I can confirm that all the above is true and have provided scans in other threads as proof. I simply cba to re-write all that text.

Plus that Itachi and Kisame statement was made before his Sage mode was even revealed. Now we all know Itachi is easily Kage+ level and someone like Kisame is easily at low Kage level/Kage level. That surely shows how great Jiraiya is. Plus he has what is in my opinion, possibly the best genjutsu shown so far. It's certainly far easier to use than Izanami and unlike Izanami it doesn't cost the user one of their eyes and it's a guaranteed kill, working against someone who even has the Rinnegan.

Orochimaru has been stated, by Sasuke himself on at least two occasions, to have been more powerful than himself. This is the same Sasuke that barged right into the Kage summit without a care and took on all the Kages in a 4v1. He fought evenly against A and even Gaara and the Mizukage were unable to contain him. Only the Tsuchikage was able to take out a tired and battered Sasuke.

"Being one of the Sannin, as well as a former member of the S-rank criminal organisation Akatsuki, Orochimaru is an extraordinarily powerful ninja, being Kage-level in his own right. He was also considered as a child prodigy that appeared only once a generation. His skills were so great that during the time of his invasion in Konoha, the Third Hokage feared no one in the village would be able to defeat him or even fight on equal footing with him, even himself, and that Orochimaru was supposedly strong enough to take down a small nation all by himself. Even Kakashi, one of Konoha's greatest shinobi, was filled with tremendous fear when he met him during the Ch┼źnin Exams, and himself admitted that he wouldn't even stand a chance against his power. Sasuke Uchiha also stated that his victory over Orochimaru was only because the latter was already severely weakened prior to their confrontation." Again from Naruto wiki. And again all true and I can confirm this.

Also you have to remember that even in his old age Hiruzen was said to have been the most powerful of the 5 kage.

But obviously team Kage have the numbers on their side, but imo I think Jiraiya and Orochimaru have a slight edge on their side.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Itachi vs Nagato

@One_Piece_God: Izanami is one of the last jutsu Itachi would ever want to use in a fight. It's drawbacks far outweigh its benefits.

  1. It's a ridiculously hard jutsu to use
  2. It's only real purpose is to counter Izanagi
  3. The user permanently loses their eyesight

For Izanami to be effective Itachi would have to be running the fight, which would be near impossible if Nagato is coming at him full force and he can't rely on his genjutsus and immortal body. And the OP states that it's both at full power so this would be Nagato when he could move around i.e. when he was fighting against Naruto, B and Itachi. And on the topic of the fight, Nagato nearly killed both 9 tailed cloak Naruto and B in seconds and would have done if Itachi hadn't saved them. Nagato's an incredibly powerful ninja and seems to be even more powerful when all his powers are in his one body.

As for the byakugan thing, that was clearly a either a mistake by the writer or a fairy tale made up by the ninjas in the village. We know for a fact that the sharingan was in fact derived from rinnegan and the sharingan can evolve into the rinnegan through some unknown means. The Sharingan<Rinnegan. That's why it's unlikely his genjutsu would be effective.

As for the low mobility thing, that's just simply not true. We have no real idea how mobile he is when he is able to fight in peak but as mentioned above he was able to react fast enough to almost kill 9 tails cloak Naruto and B.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

General Discussion » Who are the top ten strongest ninjas in Naruto?

I'm changing mine. Plus I'm only using characters in their prime or how I imagine they were in their prime.

  1. Rikudo
  2. Naruto
  3. Hiruzen
  4. Minato
  5. Hashirama
  6. Madara
  7. Hanzo
  8. Jiraiya
  9. Nagato
  10. Itachi
Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » The Sannin vs The Current Kage

@Acura_Max: They also outnumbered Madara 5 to 1 and we all know how that's going. Pein outnumbered Jiraiya 3 to 1 and Jiraiya still killed them all before Pein revealed he had 6 bodies and one of them could revive the dead. Even with one arm Jiraiya managed to take down and capture the animal path. Pein himself admitted that he likely would not have won their match if he hadn't caught Jiraiya by surprise. The point I'm making is that this same Pein went and destroyed all of Konoha with ease before Naruto came to help out. That should help show how powerful Jiraiya is.

The title of Kage doesn't count for as much these days, I think it would be a close battle.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Beat this Naruto team

Madara, Nagato, Jiraiya, Prime Hanzo. They're the strongest 3 I can think of.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Off-Topic » OBD has gone down?

@DBZ_universe: Yeah same but I can't remember every little detail about every manga I've ever read so it was useful in that sense.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » The Sannin vs The Current Kage

Tsunade couldn't decide which team to choose so she decided to sit this one out.

All characters in their prime.

All in character.

Teamwork is perfect for both teams, no quarreling.

Fight is in a giant crater and they start about 50m apart.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Off-Topic » What Are You Watching/Playing?

I'm playing Tales of Vesperia at the moment, it's a good game although has all the standard cheesiness of an JRPG. At least the main character is a badass though.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Off-Topic » OBD has gone down?

It was pretty good as a resource site sometimes. It could remind you of certain things that you could use in an arguement that you may have forgotten about otherwise. Didn't really care for the community though, but the site itself was useful.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Shinobi General Battle Royale

@Sonata: Wasn't this one the dupe? Seeing as it's missing the pic of the 4th general.

I'd be inclined to give this to Mifune. He's so fast he'd give any of these guys trouble. Kakashi also has a chance because he's a really clever experienced ninja and the sharingan is always a nice little bonus to have. Plus he could use Kamui on Mifune or something, but it has been shown to not be so effective against someone moving around, so may not work. Plus, it's a massive chakra drain so he may not want to use it anyway.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Itachi vs Nagato

@All_StarSupes: Why don't you get this? Izanami is one of the last jutsu Itachi would ever want to use in a fight. It's drawbacks far outweigh its benefits.

  1. It's a ridiculously hard jutsu to use
  2. It's only real purpose is to counter Izanagi
  3. The user permanently loses their eyesight

For Izanami to be effective Itachi would have to be running the fight, which would be near impossible if Nagato is coming at him full force and he can't rely on his genjutsus and immortal body. And the OP states that it's both at full power so this would be Nagato when he could move around i.e. when he was fighting against Naruto, B and Itachi. And on the topic of the fight, Nagato nearly killed both 9 tailed cloak Naruto and B in seconds and would have done if Itachi hadn't saved them. Nagato's an incredibly powerful ninja and seems to be even more powerful when all his powers are in his one body.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Post by ohgodwhy (1,626 posts) See mini bio Level 12
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