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Battles » Tenth Generation Vongola Guardians vs Shichibukai

It's not totally baseless if he was able to push away something as intangible as pain.

I didn't know Tsuna was in the battle, he's not in the main pic. He could actually make a big difference if he's involved as his attacks are very powerful.

Who's included on the shichbukai side then?

I would still say the top level shichibukai are stronger the vongola guardians with the exception of Tsuna who is probably the strongest here in terms of DC.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Alucard vs. Freddy Krueger

I don't think he'll be able to find Alucard's fears as I'm sure Alucard has no conventional ones.

In Freddy vs Jason, Jason was actually about to take Freddy out in his own dreamworld but luckily a pipe burst and water poured out which is Jason's fear. Otherwise Freddy would've been pretty screwed in his own dreamworld.

Pretty easy win for Alucard.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

I've never denied that it doesn't take a long charge up time and it's certainly possible that he might not get a chance to use it. I just wanted to point out that Final Flash does have the AOE and potency to take out Heracles if it connected so Vegeta does have at least one attack that could get him the win. Although this is once again if we're only using feats and not power scaling.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

@taichokage: I've already explained the reasoning behind why Vegeta changed the trajectory of the blast. He didn't realise Cell could regenerate and thought he had done enough damage to finish him. This is all clear to see in chapters 384 and 385. Gohan knew Cell could regenerate so he knew he had to wipe all of Cell out in one blast.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

@CosmicKnight75: He changed the trajectory of the attack so it didn't hit the ground, otherwise he would've blown the Earth up. I'm pretty sure this was explained in the manga. The size of the blast is clear to see.

As I also mentioned before he thought the damage dealt to Cell was enough to kill him, as can be seen in the next chapter. If he had know Cell could revive he would've likely aimed a little lower and scorched some of the Earth.

It's all in chapters 384 and 385.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Tenth Generation Vongola Guardians vs Shichibukai

Shichbukai gets my vote.

Unfortunately I can't remember everything about KHR but I think the mist guy and the guy with the tonfas were the most dangerous. The mist guy will likely fall to Kuma who could blow his illusions away with his paws IMO. His paws have after all been used to push away intangible things such as pain before. Blackbeard has the power of gravity and earthquakes, probably the two most powerful DFs in the OP World. Doflamingo can use parasite to control all the other.

I think the shichbukai are just much stronger.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

@flashback180 said:

@CosmicKnight75 said:

Frieza's survival by the canon sources is ambiguous.

  • ambiguous ? he was shout half dead on nemmek . the explosion exceeded far grater than the planets original size itself .The last thing we see on pannel is freezas near death on nemmek ,there is no proof that says he escaped the explosion .

Androids never took planet busting attacks and 19, Future 17 and 18 died in attacks of far smaller scale, Cell woulda died to one had Vegeta been more accurate and it still still only came back due to his regeneration,

  • 18 's armor was stronger than the sword that sliced meta Freeza into bits. The same freeza who tired to destroy earth at point blank. 17 is 18's twin i.e has the same durability & 16 is stronger than them both. Cell took vegetas most powerful attack ,a attack he reduced its potential in the last second. A attack that was easy planet+.

In fact the same thing happened when goku shot cell with his kamahamaha.

the fact that Cell is made up of the same DNA as Freeza should be more than enough proof of his durability. If we ignore this then i question heracles regen , we haven't seen his regenerating .

Buu vaporized everyone with a planet+ attack and he himself came back through regeneration from a few surviving bits. Vegeta is taking on essentially a far bigger version of Cell in every way that isn't an arrogant fool and isn't gonna humor Vegeta's own arrogance.

Future 17 and 18 died in attacks of far smaller scale,

Oh you mean these "moon-level" ki blasts from a blood-lusted Vegeta that was trying his hardest to kill Cell? Hardly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0jLrecR9FcA

since when did smaller ki blast mean weaker blasts. AOE has never been potential .we see this from the starting stages of dragon ball ,

Roshi's mountain bust feat, Roshis's moon bust feat, King Piccolo city level feat , Radditz easy multi mountain busting feat ,Piccolo is Moon destruction feat , Nappa was easy city leveling feat etc.

AOE don't show the attacks potential ,

this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0jLrecR9FcA isn't even block level , vegeta was spamming island level blasts on Nemmek .Kamikolo used a city level bust on imperfect cell yet a 10000 time weaker King piccolo could do that with little effort .

Berus took out all the z fighters with chopsticks that doesn't mean their durability is lesser than that of a chopstick

This post actually makes a lot of sense.

Either way there's some good debating going on this thread.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

@taichokage said:

I don't see how the Final Flash is relevant. It took out Half of Cell's body. It doesn't have nearly the AOE necessary to vaporize Heracles. And any lesser attack doesn't have that potency.

Don't really want to call you out on this but I feel must point out to you that Final Flash's AOE is actually massive.

You only need to look at this scan.

Vegeta purposely changed his trajectory so as to not blow up the Earth. Unfortunately he didn't realise Cell could recover from the damage inflicted.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » OMNIMON vs. IMPERIALDRAMON

Regular omnimon gets my vote anyway. He's a fusion of two megas while imperialdramon is a dna fusion of two champions that becomes one mega. Not only that but in season two blackwargreymons attack was able to nullify both wargreymons and imperialdramons. That to me indicates that imperialdramon is maybe equal to or just slightly stronger than wargreymon.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

@taichokage: Tbf he did totally wipe out whatever part of Cell his attack connected with. It's unfortunate his attack didn't fully connect because I'm pretty confident that had it fully connected Cell would've been defeated right there and then.

Cell looked pretty scared when he saw the actual attack and this was after he had already prepared himself for it

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

Looks like we've entered into the age old power-scaling vs feats argument. That's why I don't like using characters after Frieza saga because for all intents and purposes they were effectively nerfed.

Powerscaling wise Vegeta wins handily, he should quite easily be multi-planet buster and have MFTL reactions.

Feats wise Vegeta will lose because his most powerful attack Final Flash took a little time to charge and his other attacks are barely continent level, if that. This version to me seems to be the BS version but what can you do, some people will only accept feats and there's no arguing against them because his feats are actually crap.

/End of argument.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Shoutmon X7 superior mode VS ARCEUS

Shoutmon gets my vote too. Arceus seems to be more hype then feats but even then it still does seem to be a glass cannon.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

@othus12: Fair enough. Thanks for the scans.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Toriko vs Augus

I don't think Augus really stands a chance. Toriko is much faster and his attacks are much more powerful, especially after eating AIR. Even if we assume that their strengths are similar, Toriko would still have the massive speed advantage.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Heracles vs Ascended Vegeta

@CosmicKnight75: Cell only survived it because Vegeta changed the trajectory and strength of the attack at the very last second. Vegeta thought he had dealt enough damage to Cell to make it a fatal blow but forgot Cell had Piccolo's DNA allowing him to regenerate. Check manga chapter 384.

Also it didn't take very long for Vegeta to charge it up in the manga but still I think Heracles would be fast enough to capitilse on Vegeta anyway.

My vote goes to Heracles too, especially with the regen (although I would like proof as to where this was stated). Heracles was after all covered in scars meaning that it can take damage to it's gourmet cells.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Tsuna and Reborn vs Acnologia and Igneel

I'd be inclined to give this to Tsuna and Reborn but I am curious as to whether Igneel can eat Tsuna's flames.

We haven't seen Acnologia go all out yet either so this outcome could change in the future.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Team Gundam Wing vs. Team Gundam G

I vote Gundam Wing then too. Wing Zero is pretty powerful on it's own, IMO it would be the deciding factor in the fight. The zero system is pretty hax.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

General Discussion » HST Tier List

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

Raw Physical stats: OP>Bleach>>Naruto

Hax: Bleach>OP>Naruto

DC: Naruto>>Bleach=OP

This is how I see them EoS anyway

Almost agree except DC wise Bleach will probably take Naruto near the end. Yamamoto in bankai for was after all destroying Seretei just by having his bankai active, surely Ichigo will surpass this by the end. Either way it'll be close between Bleach and Naruto for DC near the end.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Teppei, Starjun, Toriko Vs Jirou

Jirou still has this IMO.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Drago vs Charizard vs Greymon

@SonNeko said:

Charizard is out. That's all I can say.

This. I unfortunately don't know too much about Drago though. Looking at they video posted by Dyep though it does seem like Drago could win via speedblitz.

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