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Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Meliodas vs Admirals

@akronawol17: No you're still not getting it. Haki is pre-cog and light moves in a straight line. If Luffy knows where the beam is going to hit all he needs to do is move out of the way of it because it's not going to change direction. Speed almost becomes pointless against a good haki user but unpredictable attacks like the one Luffy used against Enel can still catch them out.

Now Doflamingo and Luffy both use haki so both can predict each others moves, however the person who is better at using it has the edge. That's why I always state that haki users have an edge in battles against other verses because they can basically see the future a little.

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Haki/Kenbunshoku_Haki

I always mention this and it always gets ignored as though people just pretend it's not a real thing or they just choose to ignore it because they have no argument against it.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Meliodas vs Admirals

@akronawol17: They were lightspeed. They are beams of light and are basically a copy of Kizaru's light beams. The reason they can be dodged is because they are fired in a straight line which makes it easy for an advanced haki user to dodge them.

Why does no one seem to understand how haki works?!!?

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Meliodas vs Admirals

Galan is certainly much faster than anything in OP barring Kizaru. One Piece characters however rely more on HAKI and reaction speed when fighting. HAKI gives you pre-cog, the ability to see an attack before it happens, within reason. It's why Luffy could dodge beams of light fired by Pacifistas. So the admirals definitely have an advantage in that department. Meliodas will have a tough time even hitting them when they're dodging the majority of his attacks via HAKI.

Now as has been shown in various scans, Meliodas easily has the power to wipe them out if they are altogether with his AOE attacks. But at the same time he has nothing as far as I can tell against Aokiji's big freeze attack, which was able to freeze large areas of the sea quite easily.

So I suppose as is the case with most battles on here, it depends on who gets their best attack of first.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Universe buster team vs Demi-Fiend

So basically Demi Fiend recruits them into his team.

Edit: Also since Demi Fiend has recruited Death (Pale Rider) wouldn't that make him unkillable? Death is basically his bitch.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Magellan vs Doflamingo!

Tough to say. A serious Magellan did take down the BB crew and had Jinbei, Luffy and Crocodile running away. He also managed to take down Emporio Ivankov which is a pretty impressive feat considering how powerful he is.

I'm going to go with Magellan on this occasion.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Jin Mo-Ri, Toriko and Saitama vs SSJ1 Goku

Round 1: The team should win. I see no reason why they can't hurt him, in fact all of them should physically be able to tear him a new one with ease.

Round 2: For me this really depends on how fast Goku can move around. We've never had any real speed figures for him, is he sub relativistic or is he massively FTL in short bursts? No one really knows.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » The Demi-Fiend runs a gauntlet

@akronawol17: Have you tried gamefaqs.com? They have the best walkthroughs, I remember I used one to beat Nocturne 100% years ago.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Exodia vs Egytian God Cards

@EvilMegaCookie said:

Exodia lost against Zorc because his power source was an old man. Had it been anyone younger, Exodia would have killed Zorc right there.

Exactly.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Bellcross vs Hulk World Breaker

@Saladking said:

@ohgodwhy said:

You know I just read the whole of World War Hulk for the first time and while an amazing storyline, Hulks strength is very overhyped. Effectively what it seems you guys are doing is creating a composite Hulk i.e. one incarnation of Hulk smashed a planet to smitherines and another incarnation of Hulk ate a black hole but this particular Hulk has shown nothing even close to those abilities. Sure he beat superheroes that have shown impressive feats themselves in the past but on this occasion even they showed nothing that impressive. I don't understand why this Hulk is considered one of the strongest as he didn't really do anything that impressive in terms of feats.

A similar example that I can think of is Godzilla. Everyone rates Final Wars Godzilla as by far the strongest incarnation (or something to that effect) even though the feats he showed would not really put him on that level. Rather it's individual feats from other versions of Godzillas that hype up the strength of Final Wars Godzilla.

So would I be correct in saying that a composite World War Hulk wins this, not the actual World War Hulk? Or have I got this totally wrong?

How is his power overhyped when he fodderized a guy who stomped Surfer in the past?

Did you even read what I wrote? You must not have done as you have quite literally posted the composite Hulk that I was referring to, rather than the actual World War Hulks feats that were shown in the comic.

@AdamantSky: If you can show me feats I might be more inclined to believe you.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Itachi and Nagato vs Barragan

@Kennedy_Uchiha: I agree, as far as I'm aware Barragan has no way to stop Amaterasu from actually sticking to him. Sure, he could probably age it and make it disappear once it's on him but by that point it'll likely already have done damage.

I still stick with what I said in the past, Itachi and Nagato have enough special skills in their arsenal to take Barragan down.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Bellcross vs Hulk World Breaker

@Captivated: I'm saying did he do all those feats as World War Hulk? Maybe I didn't read the whole backstory where they showed some more feats but from what I actually read in World War Hulk, when he fought against the Illuminati, he did not do anything that impressive in terms of feats and neither did anyone else.

What I'm trying to say is that is World War Hulk really more like a composite Hulk where people are using lots of past feats and relating them to him as he is supposed to be the strongest Hulk?

Do you understand what I'm getting at here?

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Kizaru VS Gremmy

@RampagingSimian said:

@fight_for_liberty: That doesn't make sense.

Ichigo > Kenny > Gremmy.

Why the hell would Gremmy get scaled to Ichigo, especially when he was unimpressive on panel and the only noteworthy thing he did was summon a large meteor.

Not quite. This is Ichigo from at least two arcs ago and the Kenpachi that fought Gremmy was many times stronger than the one from the Aizen arc. It's likely if Gremmy fought the Ichigo from the way back then then Gremmy would be stronger than Ichigo.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Bellcross vs Hulk World Breaker

You know I just read the whole of World War Hulk for the first time and while an amazing storyline, Hulks strength is very overhyped. Effectively what it seems you guys are doing is creating a composite Hulk i.e. one incarnation of Hulk smashed a planet to smitherines and another incarnation of Hulk ate a black hole but this particular Hulk has shown nothing even close to those abilities. Sure he beat superheroes that have shown impressive feats themselves in the past but on this occasion even they showed nothing that impressive. I don't understand why this Hulk is considered one of the strongest as he didn't really do anything that impressive in terms of feats.

A similar example that I can think of is Godzilla. Everyone rates Final Wars Godzilla as by far the strongest incarnation (or something to that effect) even though the feats he showed would not really put him on that level. Rather it's individual feats from other versions of Godzillas that hype up the strength of Final Wars Godzilla.

So would I be correct in saying that a composite World War Hulk wins this, not the actual World War Hulk? Or have I got this totally wrong?

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Bellcross vs Hulk World Breaker

@taichokage: What's this incarnation of Hulk like? Bellcross can plow straight through planets, has the destructive power of a super nova and can likely move at FTL speeds given that he escaped an expanding black hole. Apparently Bellcross can also absorb its enemies life force and release it as destructive energy.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Who can survive on Planet TerraforMars?

Sonic, Shadow and Silver would have a good stab at it. All game versions, should make them eligible.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Team Gundam VS Zentraedi Fleet

@Shadowchaos: It depends. I think it was like a lite version of the zero system which is both Quatre and Dorothy could handle it without too many side effects. Even the wiki states it was a modified version of the original system.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Team Gundam VS Zentraedi Fleet

@Shadowchaos: I meant the 15000 fodder mobile suits, not the main pilots. It should make the fodder suits pretty dangerous in their own right.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Team Gundam VS Zentraedi Fleet

Jesus Yamato will do the most damage for sure. He's practically untouchable, I don't think he took even one hit will in his Strike Freedom and the dude is pretty much an army on his own. I recall in his first appearance in Strike Freedom he casually took out 5 battle ships without breaking a sweat.

I also got to say I disagree with the majority of comments saying Master Asia and Domon won't be that useful. They're the only two in what are effectively super robots, they can do a lot of damage very quickly. Their only limitation might be their short range.

Actually scratch what I said about Jesus Yamato, he'll do the second most damage. First will most definitely be Wing Zero. Has anyone ever played as him in Dynasty Warriors Gundam? The guy can take control of entire fields in seconds.

Body count master. Kira or Heero for reasons stated above.

Follow Me. Char, this just makes sense. Amuro would be a fine leader too or failing that Zechs would fit in just fine.

Vanguard. Heero can lead into area and clear it in no time, everyone just needs to stay out of his way.

Sniper. Garrod with his satellite cannon will be great for this, provided he can keep it charging it.

Final point, Zechs can install the Zero system into all his mobile suits like in the anime increasing their usefullness.

It's gonna be a tough fight for sure given the numbers but I got to go with the Gundams.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Iron Man, War Machine, and Iron Patriot vs the Gundam 5

@Falbium_Asmodeus: Oh ok fair enough, I just looked at the pic.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,629 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Battles » Iron Man, War Machine, and Iron Patriot vs the Gundam 5

@Falbium_Asmodeus: OP has shown only the original 5 gundams so I don't think we can use Wing Zero. Wing Gundams beam rifle wasn't so impressive, maybe city block level if that plus he could only fire it 3 times before it needed recharging.

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