It was an awesome chapter, every page had me excited.
4th Hokage's awesome, I wonder how he'd stack up against the 1st and Madara because of his ungodly speed.
Team 7 thing at the end was corny as anything but still this was the best chapter we've had in a while by a longshot.
Maybe Juubi vs Mounturtle would've been better. We still haven't seen the Juubi at full power yet though but I'm sure it would be a good fight.
@GIRUGAMESH said:
@ChromeDisaster: @taichokage: I'd like to think it's not as clear cut as you guys are making it out to be.
First, Sasuke vs Naruto is still a possibility in my mind. Just because he's going to help them now doesn't mean everyone can just kiss and make up with him after the war is over. Do you think Sasuke would just let himself be killed either? But then I guess I may be underestimating the power of talk-no-jutsu, Naruto might make some huge speech that clears Sasuke's name (if that happens then the series really will be bull). For now I'll have faith that it won't go down like that.
Second, I think the identity of the final villain depends on how long the manga has left to go. If it's going to end with the war, then Madara may well be the main villain (though not quite the final, since that could be Sasuke). But the way I see it, the shinobi alliance is going to have a huge advantage with all the kage edos coming (plus the current ones after they've been healed by Tsunade), which means something big needs to happen to make things interesting again...something like Orochimaru using the edos to betray the alliance and possibly try to take the Juubi's power for himself. I still think there is a decent chance that Oro will be the final villain of the series, I don't buy his nice-guy act for a second.
I would be pissed if the manga ends like this:
- edo kages arrive and start kicking ass, with Madara starting his rematch with Hashirama
- Juubi reaches its final stage, giving everyone a hard time
- Naruto, with the help of the kages (and Sasuke) and the power of friendship beat the Juubi, destroying it or sealing it within Naruto (which would be weird and make no sense, 2 bijuus in one body!?)
- Everyone demands Sasuke answer for his crimes, but Naruto gives a speech that lasts at least 1 chapter to clear his name. Oro is so moved that he becomes a goodie.
- Everyone goes back to Konoha for ramen, and that night Naruto gets laid with Hinata (or God forbid, Sakura). THE END.
I'll retain my faith in Kishi that it doesn't quite go down like that...
Oh and as for this fight, Ichigo wins.
Lol I have a feeling that the manga will end exactly how you just described lol. Naruto's been very predictable from the start, the Tobi = Obito thing was so obvious yet so many people want to disbelieve it because of how obvious it was. Lets be honest, Naruto isn't really the most clever manga ever written and the most obvious outcome is likely going to be the actual outcome.
Hopefully (and I do mean hopefully) we're both wrong.
Also the only part you've missed out there is
-Obito agrees with Kakashi and then sacrifices himself to save Naruto from one of Madara's attacks or sacrifices himself in one way or another. Obito's definitely going to become a good guy soon.
@taichokage: Yeah so far this arc in Naruto has been rubbish and anticlimactic. Far too much of this friendship bullcrap, far far too much considering the whole shinobi world is about to be destroyed.
When the Hokages showed up though, that was probably one of the greatest manga moments ever. I think the manga is going to pick up soon
@othus12: At least his art is good enough to compensate for his terrible story telling. Bleach is still by far the worst of the HST imo though
But then Ichigo busts out some new plot armor move and wins. Maybe he has the will of D or something.
Ichigo D Kurosaki - Shinigami/Arrancar/Quincy/Pirate King
Lol well there goes the Broly wank
Wait if Toei confirmed that Super Janemba was the strongest movie villain, then where does that place Broly?
@Kobra678: That's fine but how do you explain how every one of the upper tiers being able to keep up with him? Surely if he was able to constantly fight at lightspeed no one could keep up with him even with haki, simply because their bodies wouldn't be able to move that fast.
@GIRUGAMESH: What I meant was that Kizaru's speed is clearly overrated because pretty much everyone of the upper tiers were able to match him in combat during the Marineford War. There's no ABC logic here because so many people were able to do it.
Therefore the only logical conclusion is that it must take Kizaru some time to get up to lightspeed. The perfect of example of this would be how Rayleigh was able to intercept Kizaru before he could fully use his Yata mirror move. If he was constantly able to move at lightspeed, he'd surely be the most powerful character in OP by far.
Now I can appreciate that Naruto doesn't have haki but he does have shadow clones. Naruto would be able to see Kizaru about to go lightspeed, make a shadow clones pop up somewhere and bijuu bomb to the face.
You do all realise that out of the admirals Akainu is regarded as the likely strongest, with them all being fairly even in power even if this isn't the case.
So to say, Naruto easily beats Akainu and Aokiji but loses to Kizaru is just retarded. Either you guys are massively underestimating 2 of the admirals or overestimating 1 of the admirals.
Kizaru's speed counted for jack shit against all of the upper tiers during the Marineford War.
So for me, Naruto wins against all three.
Kakashi and Guy eh?
They get crapped on
@nishi99 said:
@Galenbeta: The sound four had a hard time with pre time skip Kiba Neji Shikamaru and Choji. Zabuza on the other hand lost too Kakashi a top jounin level ninja and Haku was said to be even stronger by Zabuza himself. Plus the the sound four never showed jounin level feats once.
This
As well as this Mihawk's still holds the title of the 'Worlds Greatest Swordsman' and last I checked Shanks uses a sword.
Mihawk also was one of the very few people who escaped the entire Marineford War untouched and he fought a couple of upper tier characters.
Round 4 is surely stronger than round 5?!?!?
Anyway I see them falling at Round 4. Hashirama's easily a multi mountain buster, Yamamoto's Bankai was just too OP and Whitebeard's quakes can split entire Islands in half with ease.
@FireFistAce: I really don't remember that.
I only remember that they were sparring partners until Shanks lost an arm and Mihawk didn't want to fight him anymore. If anything this should mean Mihawk's stronger.
Sasori should win this IMO. Tsunade's a Saanin but I believe it's only because of her expertise in healing. I remember when she fought Orochimaru with Jiraiya on her side and she was the only one that wasn't massively encumbered in one way or another and she was still only drawing.
Sakura on the other hand only did so well against Sasori because Chiyo had her connected to her strings and IMO Chiyo was a powerful ninja who everyone seems to disregard.
Therefore it would be a close fight, because obviously Tsunade's a lot better than Sakura, but Sasori should win this. (Even if his poison is ineffective.)
@bigz007: I think Yammy was just physically the strongest out of all of them.
Maybe they had a bench pressing competition to decide their Espada levels?
Barragan easily wins this though, I don't see how Sengoku can hope to stand a chance against his powers.
Surely got to give this to Bills. He took out SSJ3 Goku with complete and utter ease and Goku has to use some ridiculous one time only form in order to even stand a chance against him. Even then he lost against Bills and Bills was said to have used up 70% of his power. In order to achieve the form it takes the power of six saiyans including Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks, Goten and Pan.
I suppose it really comes down to who'd win in a fight between God Goku or Vegito because if God Goku wins, Vegito's got no chance against Bills.
V-Jump states that Bills is the strongest being in the universe, although this was obviously wrong because of Whis. Although I imagine they didn't mention that because it was a pretty big shock moment in the movie so they probably wanted to keep it secret.
@niBBit: Butt....Durr....Brolllyyyyy......Durrr......Blew up the GALAXY.....durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrasdfavczxvvzv?!!??!?!?!?!?!
I agree.
Also I'm sure this thread has been done before.
