Newdeath (Level 19)

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@DBZ_universe: Hulk has shattered an asteroid twice the size of the Earth. He's destroyed Celestial armor, not even Odin with the Destroyer suit and his sword could destroy Celestial armor. He's overpowered Onslaught and SS who can both collapse stars with their strength. He's given a confident Gladiator the beating of a lifetime and Gladiator has crushed planets with his fists before. He's punched through the space-time continuum, that's way better than anything Arale's ever done. Are you seriously trying to compare some cartoony planet-busting to punching out an entire dimension?

If The Hulk thunderclaps Arale then she's a gonner. One hit, one hit is all he'll need given that her durability sucks so much. Hell even Iron Man is more durable than Arale, he's endured nuclear explosions at blank point range at least but he's been one-shotted by Hulk before who is several many times more durable than him. Withstanding an energy blast from SS implies that he'll be withstanding Arale's attacks as well, far much better than she will his. Oh and all of those strength feats I mentioned, current Hulk is much stronger than the Hulk who did all those things.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@DBZ_universe: Current Hulk is World Breaker Hulk so it doesn't matter. If you're going to argue about the Hulk, at least know that the Ultimate version clearly isn't being used and consider how powerful current Hulk is.

You think showing PIS scans will make your argument for Arale compelling? Gladiator who is way faster than Arale and cracks planets with his fists when he's upset was literally manhandled by Hulk. And again, show me Arale punching through an entire dimension if you want to say she's stronger than Hulk, if not then tough luck. And as for durability, you know how weak it is in her case.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@DBZ_universe: So you're using Ultimate Hulk in a pathetic attempt to make 616 Hulk look weak? Please.

Anyway, Cap's shield is made of the hardest substance ever discovered. Even Thor with the Odinforce couldn't break it so you're not making a point.

Why don't you show how Hulk has survived being thrown into the core of the Sun or has endured some of SS's best blasts huh?

I'd like to see Arale punch through an entire dimension and overpower an opponent strong enough to collapse entire stars.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@DBZ_universe: You can't dodge a thunderclap. That's why characters faster and stronger than Arale have fallen before it. Hulk is still stronger and more durable than her. Has she ever punched through an entire dimension? Has she ever endured energy blasts from Galactus and SS? Or anyone even half as strong as them? I doubt it.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@DBZ_universe: Arale won't be headbutting him because a thunder clap from Hulk would kill her.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@MisterShin: Thor is fast enough to blitz Goku before he can use IT. He blitzed SS recently.

Broly did it over time, which is why there was a surviving planet for Goku to look for Broly's ki.

Nothing in the anime suggests they can match Thor's level of power. And their energy attacks can just be absorbed into Mjolnir since he's already absorbed the energy from a bomb that was going to destroy an entire galaxy.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@eddz99: Are you kidding me? Goku couldn't even move 40 tons without turning into an SSJ and that's the only legit strength feat we've seen from the Saiyans without the use of ki. DBZ in terms of strength is pathetic when they aren't using ki to enhance themselves. Nobody's even shown continent-busting strength.

Where are you getting these statements of SSJ2s being able to crush planets with their fists? There has never ever been any evidence for this in DBZ.

Also, Hulk overpowers opponents who destroy entire stars with their strength. What the hell is a planet compared to that? A star can contain well over millions of Jupiter-sized planets. Oh and SSJ2 has never been stronger than Broly's LSSJ form since he simultaneously manhandled two Full-Powered SSJs (each nearly as strong as Perfect Cell), Super Vegeta, Ascended SSJ Trunks, and Piccolo (who was stronger than Android 17 at the time). Not even Cell could do that. Oh and yeah Broly destroyed galaxy? Yeah right, he was claimed to have done so but if he really had destroyed a galaxy, then Goku wouldn't have been on a planet in the galaxy that Broly supposedly destroyed while he was sensing Broly's ki.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@MisterShin: Those feats aren't impressive when those planets reappear unexplained in like the next panel.

Hulk has punched through dimensions, that is better than anything Arale has ever done. He's also destroyed Celestial armor and overpowered the Surfer in terms of strength and remember that the Surfer collapses stars with his strength. He's punched through the space-time continuum. Arale has never even done anything half as impressive as that in terms of strength.

Also, I find it incredibly funny how some say Arale wins without even explaining how she is expected to tank anything from the Hulk. When has Arale ever fought anyone with the amount of power that Hulk possesses? No way is she withstanding a planet-shattering punch. Hulk will one-shot her, while he will be able to endure a great deal of her attacks since he's fought stronger opponents. I think it's funny how people think Arale is going to easily defeat someone stronger and vastly more durable than her. Withstanding energy blasts from SS and Galactus is better than any durability feat that Arale has.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » DBZ Janemba ( Both Transformations ) VS. Hades Saint Seiya

@The_original_goku10000: Like I said before, Janemba not being able to do jacksh*t to Goku and Vegeta with reality warping except dematerializing and rematerializing to escape their attacks means they're weak beyond belief. Goku and Vegeta have no defense against reality warping. Don't give me any ki control bull, that lacks evidence. If ki control really did grant some sort of resistance, then Vegito should have been able to use ki when turned to candy, all he did was retain his ability to move, couldn't use ki to save his life, and that wasn't even reality warping, it was magic transmutation.

Janemba will get wrecked here. His low-level reality warping isn't going to sh*t. He couldn't even blink someone like Vegeta out of existence, someone who is far below him in terms of power. And now you think he's going to use reality warping on a grand scale against Hades? Yeah right.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Katas VS Bardock.... Who is the better DBZ dad?

Katas obviously. Bardock only really started to care somewhat for Goku when he saw the vision of Goku defeating Frieza. He's an awful father and really only cared whether or not his son had a high power level.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Banned battle replacement Captain Marvel (DC) Vs. Vegeta (DBZ)

Captain Marvel's comic book version is basically Superman with magic and god-powers. Vegeta will lose.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@DBZ_universe: Hulk has defeated stronger opponents than her.

And he doesn't have to be angry to unleash that kind of strength anymore. When he shattered an asteroid twice the size of the planet he wasn't that angry. In fact, it doesn't really matter because Hulk is always angry. And can you tell me how Arale is going to tank Hulk's punches? Nobody she's ever faced was as strong as Hulk, hell not even Goku is as strong as Hulk when it comes to physical power. Arale's durability pales in comparison to her strength, she'll be one-shotted.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@The_original_goku10000: LOL you're the only one who is saying anything about universal punches. Are you confusing a dimension for a universe?

Hulk wins. Gladiator who has similar feats to Arale and they are actually better and he is far more durable was given the beating of a lifetime by Hulk. What the hell is someone as vulnerable as Arale gonna do? She's not even half as durable as Hulk, no way is she even tanking one punch from him. He destroyed an asteroid twice the size of the Earth, has punched through the space-time continuum, overpowered beings that crush planets and even stars, destroyed Celestial armor, and overpowered a device strong enough to change the orbit of an entire planet. You're free to ignore those feats and come back with the same old stuff you say because you still can't make a case for Arale's pathetic durability and inferior strength when compared to even Gladiator whom Hulk has whooped easily.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@The_original_goku10000: Did I say he fights these people on a daily basis? No.

I said that he has fought them. He's punched through dimensions, Arale hasn't so she can't compare to his real strength. Gladiator has identical if not better feats than Arale and he had the living hell beat out of him by Hulk.

She's fighting an opponent stronger than her and she's not even half as durable as he is.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@niBBit: I used Mystic Gohan in my post to make it fairer for the Z Fighters.

There's no difference between Classic Thor and current Thor, in fact current Thor is stronger. That combined with Hulk's power should be too much for the Z Fighters.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » DBZ Janemba ( Both Transformations ) VS. Hades Saint Seiya

@The_original_goku10000: It's best that you go back and do some more research. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Janemba's reality warping is so pathetic it couldn't do jack sh*t to even SSJ2 Vegeta. Don't give me any ki control nonsense because there's no evidence for that at all. Vegito being able to fight in his candy form doesn't mean his ki control allowed him to do so, especially because he couldn't even use ki attacks when in his candy form. He was able to fight because he's a more powerful being than Buuhan. Janemba's reality warping sucked, and it sucked quite a lot if Goku and Vegeta managed to get some good hits in.

Aside from some weak mirror stuff, Janemba's reality warping isn't impressive combat-wise. Couldn't even blink Vegeta out of existence, yeah that's amazing reality warping (sarcasm).

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Arale Norimaki VS The Hulk

@The_original_goku10000: Right because Arale destroying planets that appear to be completely fine by the end of the chapter is a completely logical feat. Yeah right.

Hulk has better strength feats her e.g punching through dimensions, destroying objects twice the Earth's size, overpowering Gladiator, Thor, and SS. Arale doesn't.

And her durability still sucks. She'll be one-shotted.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » DBZ Janemba ( Both Transformations ) VS. Hades Saint Seiya

@DBZ_universe: I think it was more like Janemba being able to gradually destroy the universe over time, not in an instant. Like I said, if his reality warping was so great, Goku and Vegeta should have been blinked out of existence the second they fought him in his last form.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

I'm going to say Thor because ordinary Thor is already FTL, strong enough to shatter planets and move the World Serpent, and durable enough to survive in the core of the Sun unscathed, not to mention all the powers that Mjolnir grant him are insane, such as the absorption of the Earth's entire electromagnetic field into it, the matter transmutation and massive energy projection e.g Godblast. A hulked out Thor will simply be far too strong and physically imposing, it's basically Thor with all his powers plus the Hulk's strength and durability combined with his own. Way too much power. And nobody here except Goku can even contend with Thor's speed because none are FTL except Goku with IT.

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Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Battles » Thor VS Goku/Vegeta/Gohan

@CerberusPrime3k: The OP states that Thor won't be suffering from any side effects so he won't be stupid or enraged.

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