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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@VG_Addict: No he can't, he beaten by avengers,.

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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@Sonata: Seriously, it is accepted here to somebody trolling this hard? Why people like this are still here if they clearly can't debate and lying, making disrespectful comments only?

@VG_Addict said:

Wait, SSJ2 Goku struggled to lift 40 tons?

Nope.

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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@SilverGalford: Galactus fooled them/lied, and thought himself "hah naive low-level beings, they now think that I am cool" :D

You too(ReiKai also) have over 2500 post here, and still didn't learn BASIC things, like DON'T JUST IGNORE the half part of the posts what people wrote to you. Say something, what about the destruction??? Is it so hard to search one scan?

Edit: Did you know the stars, galaxies, and everything is moving by itself?

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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@SilverGalford: Yes. But as you guys questioning obvious things (density of matters) I do the same. :) I don't see he moving a galaxy. He says the "the galaxy is now in safe" but didn't say he moved. Maybe it was a miracle or "who knows". But whatever, that's not the point. What about destroying a galaxy?

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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@ReiKai said:

Thanos has done it, Surfer has done it, Loki has done it. A lotta people can do it, and don't need to. Brolly is also non-canon.

Also, let's point something out. Animated Hulk has taken more G's than Goku. Graviton can punch out more than 1000x gravity. That couldn't keep Hulk down, and Hulk weighs about half a ton. So take that, multiply by a thousand. That would show EMH Hulk working against more than 500tons of pressure.

Broly, and the anime is non-canon, but a cartoon is now canon....

"John Stapp was subjected to 15 g for 0.6 second and a peak of 22 g during a 19 March 1954 rocket sled test. He would eventually survive a peak of more than 46 g, with more than 25 g for 1.1 sec." - wikipedia

It's not cool because the multiple G(ok that"s cool too), it's because they were training on that for days.

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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@SilverGalford said:

Ok. I don't saying that Galactus weak, but where is these famous galaxy destroying scans?

he moved a galaxy .

when he fought against tyrant ,only that fight destroyed galaxies.

So this would be the legendary scan of Galactus? A hundred yo pic, where he moved a galaxy. 1. I don't see galaxy on that pic. 2. We talk about destroying. In theory, he is officially a galaxy buster. So can't you show me at least one galaxy busting(with his own power)?

The second pic is a regular energy beam fight. There is a lot of light years distance between stars, not mention the whole galaxy... They are smaller than ants, and they are an arm-length from each other. How could they destroying the whole galaxy then? Not mention other galaxies. And the scan said "must have destroyed" that's =/= destroyed, but whatever, it's lame to make a fight more "impressive" by narrating a magical busting sh1t.

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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@ReiKai said:

" If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible, he is almost certainly right but if he says that it is impossible, he is very probably wrong." -Arthur C. Clarke- Basically saying, just because we can;t explain how it works, doesn't mean it's impossible. Just means science hasn't gotten to the point where we can explain it.

It's a good quote IRL, but please don't say that one day we all can shooting lasers from our eyes... :D :D

(edit:grammar)

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@ReiKai: I think we all agreed that it works because it have to works. We started to discuss it because Supreme Marvel said " I never took DB seriously as a science perspective". And I said, just because they talk more about science in dc/marvel, they are also made mistakes. A lot. Yes, they add some explain but it's still impossible IRL. Let's just mention an another thing and I am done. The x-men mutants. They have different genes, this is the explanation. But regeneration from nothing, becoming metal, laser-eyes... :D:D etc... I wouldn't take this serious either.

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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@ReiKai: Contain what to not affecting local gravity? Or what artifact gravitational s.ship you talking about? The dbz ship? Even 500G would nothing compared to an Earth... Goku used max 100G. If the ship was 1ton thats 100 ton. Do you think that pull asteroids to itself?

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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@Supreme Marvel: Well, the all superpower is a physical mistake. :) And as they effect on the environment. But I remember well, when I watched the PC Superman feats... he blowing back the earth, destroying solar or galaxy system with sneeze... a lot of epic mistake, and they write a lot of scientific things. Somebody even wrote that the first comic books of PC Superman was like an educational book. Or a currently, most famous mistake is iron man... I hope you know why.

@ReiKai: IDK what they mean "matrix" but the gravity is effect all around it. If there is a machine that producing the gravity of earth it would pull to it everything. Mass=gravity.

I know there are mistakes in dbz too, but this one is not an unbelievable thing. They also on higher tech-level than us IRL, they have a metal which is unharmed after falling into the earth like a meteor, and Brief (?Bulma's dad) upgraded it. The floor and weights would also stay unharmed because the gravity effect on the object own weight. If the floor is 100kg in 10xG mean 1ton. That's not impossible. Just think about wood. It easy, but can hold much heavier objects. Again I don't say it's totally believable, but not complete epic fail.

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Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@Sonata said:

This is what get DBZ fanboys in debates, they post feats but don't truly understand the meaning behind a feat. Goku moving a "Big Rock" is a nice feat, but heck Chris Redfield from Resident Evil moved a "Big Rock." Does that mean in a battle in arm-wrestling that Chris and Goku are equals? What does it mean?

I think you are who don't understand, the density of matters, and the all rubbing force that makes it harder to moving... is much more than 40tons. How come Chris whoever here? Of course if they are on the same strength then they are on same strength(if he did the exact same thing)

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@Supreme Marvel: Just because they talking about science more, they also do a lot of mistakes. For example here, The metal that Superman grabbed should at least deformed from the effect of sextillion tons. The all-star superman version machine was seemed more real(just seemed, but thats also a great mistake).

@Sonata: You made me lol. Sorry, but this is not "who knows". Elementary school knowledge. The matters has ...(hmm which one the correct word in english)... specific weight/density. There are different stones also, but all of them heavy, and which is so big, surely more than 1-2-3 tons.

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@Supreme Marvel: @Sonata: Physics that effected on characters body is different... well, I could name a lot of scene where the physics was f*cked up, from dragon ball too, but there is every other comics.

This is different. If you say that the rock is not at the estimated weight as it would be in real, then I could say the moon which was destroyed by superman was not from rock, it was from cheese. And the Earth he lifted was much easier than the real version Earth. And if they stated that it's sextillion ton that was a lie. (cell lied too, so why not the scientist to be nice for superman :D)

The 100 lbs thing was maybe a human fail, but there is no label on rocks.

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@Supreme Marvel said:

@mypasswordis1234 said:

@Sonata: And what about the training with hundreds of times gravity before they went SSJ. Or when they lifting giants, or when pushed a big rock IN the ground, as kid.... I am not saying they could play bowling with suns, but who know the dbz well and take seriously the 10ton is ridiculous.

I see Dragon Ball as more of a fantasy. He used his Nyoi-bō to go into space, all the way to the moon. Survived the vacuum and freezing temperatures of space. So I don't take DB seriously.

Of course, the comics and mangas are fantasy, they live with monsters and fly and such. I didn't mean "seriously" as a document film. I mean the 10ton is very few to earlier showings. When I was around 16yo it seemed obvious to me, and here adult ppl who analising shows, feats, debating and know the dbz well, still believe that wasn't just a joke scene.

@Sonata said:

@mypasswordis1234: Do you know how much those weights were? or how much the giant was? or how much the rock was? Heck how much does the Z-Sword weigh? Just because objects are big does necessarily mean they are extremely heavy. Also the 10 ton bit I believe is 40 tons on each limb.

Oh boy. Just because it's a fiction does not necessary change the whole physics. The rock is rock, the metal is metal(btw 2m3 from the hardest metal in that universe, goku easily thrown with one hand), the is brick is brick, the meat, bones, are meat and bones. We can estimate with that. You know what is easy even if it's big? THIS

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Battles » Goku vs just about any single being

@Sonata: And what about the training with hundreds of times gravity before they went SSJ. Or when they lifting giants, or when pushed a big rock IN the ground, as kid.... I am not saying they could play bowling with suns, but who know the dbz well and take seriously the 10ton is ridiculous.

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

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@Supreme Marvel said:

@niBBit: You can have a bigger object that's not heavier than a smaller object. It never stated how much the rock Freiza threw at Goku weighed. My point is great size doesn't always equal great weight.

Hulk punched an object twice the size of Earth. Was it's mass equal? No. It was much less.

They stated how much Goku was lifting. That's good enough for me. That's what I'd judge him on. Not go on presumption.

There is a high pressure in earth because the gravity, that's make it a "little" smaller, but the rock is rock.

I can't believe that you think the rock has less heavier than 10ton. You don't serious, right?

Also I dont want to convince you here, but I have another scans which is much more than 2 ton...

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@ReiKai said:

1.Because we've seen Galactus destroy galaxies. In just breaking his bonds in "Annihilation", he multi-system wiped. Odin busting galaxies is part of his Lore and you can't argue with that. What Cell did was make a Claim. It could not be backed up, because for 1; He didn't destroy the Solar System, 2; Gohan's counter-attack didn't destroy the Solar System, and 3; No one before nor after Cell has ever destroyed a solar system.

2.There's no lore in DBZ stating they can do such and there is no evidence to support it. There's only Brolly and he's non-canon.

3.Plus, why should I argue about Thanos? Should I show the numerous times he's blatantly flattened the Avengers and other heroes/villains? And you claimed that they were getting juiced up by the Elders of the Universe. Nvm the whole thing looked as either; A) A retelling of an earlier story (as Marvel has been doing) or B) A "What If" like that Spider-Man comic that made Thanos look like a buffoon with a cosmic cube.

Nvm that there was no explanation for escaping a collapsing universe, Starlord and Nova were still MIA, and there was no telling what time that particular event actually took place. I believe Annihilation and Civil War were running side-by-side, however the events of Annihilation occurred sometime afterwords and after New Avengers, as Ultron played a role in Guardians of the Galaxy during that whole debacle.

As I've seen, you very much fall into the crowd of people who only stick to the Weakest showings of the opposing character to try and make a claim for a DBZ victory. Shit dun work like that. Thanos at normal levels without a plot-device has regularly steamrolled Super Hero teams like the Avengers. And the only way or Reason Thanos would ever lose to them was if it was somehow working in his favor towards a greater goal. 4. Nvm Thanos has no reason to be afraid of the Elders. He beat them all before. Embarrassed them completely, really. Outwitted, outsmarted, and outplayed them every step of the way. So what does Thanos have to be afraid of? Dying? He'd welcome it. Torture would be all but impossible and useless against him. Imprisonment? Yeah, like anything can actually hold him for more than 5min before he decides "I'm done with this" and uses any number of means at his disposal to leave. Really, get over it. DBZ fails against these kinds of people. Time to move on and stop bothering everyone with this nonsense.

Edit, hey, my answer lost when I sent it. God bless the copy-paste.

1. Ok. I don't saying that Galactus weak, but where is these famous galaxy destroying scans? Here is a complete respect thread I only found a speculation from thanos, and somewhere else an "erasing" with the nullifier DEVICE. He had blasts, show me a scan where he destroying more than a solar system with his own power, blast. Not just some narrator hyperbole to make the regular h2h fight more impressive. Like when Odin was fighting with sword against somebody(forgot his name) and the narrator said "and far avway galaxies destroyed" or something similar. That's just lame.

2. Are you lying or really still don't get it, how the dbz works? The more power level, the more strength, speed, destructive power. Roshi destroyed moon, saiyans destroyed planets, freeza destroyed 10x bigger/heavier planet while he was laughing. They are ants compared to cell and he said he could destroy the solar system too. Later they said about universal danger in buu saga. This is proper logic. And how could gohan counter-attack destroy the solar system? His kamehameha just scratch the earth surface and went toward the empty space like the final flash.

3. Right, we are not here for arguing, show me some funny pic instead. I stick to the weakest showings(2), yes. Because I didn't see explanation for those. Thanos couldn't destroy a planet. The other showings just aren't more impressive than the dbz showings. You use other characters feats to prove how strong thanos. Like he defeated silver surfer. In the incredible hulk, hulk defended silver surfer against terrax, when he was wanting to stole his surfer. Things like this happens in comics, "defeat a strong opponent with good feats to show how badass this character".

4. Why did you write this to me? I didn't write anything about he and the elders. I wrote that he beaten by the avengers. You didn't explain why. Was it for a greater goal?

If I bothering you then don't read my comments, but I don't stop commenting just because you think that dbz fails.

@Destinyheroknight: What is confusing about Broly? I mean, it may confusing, but why do you think that?@eddz99 said:

@18hunt said:

IM TIRED OF IT, I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!!!!! YOU PEOPLE FROM ANIME VICE and COMIC VINE ARE UNDERRATING GOKU AND ANIME IN GENERAL. SAYING PEOPLE LIKE NARUTO CAN'T BEAT HIM (WHICH IS TRUE), THEN SAYING PEOPLE LIKE WEAKNESS THOR CAN!! (IM A THOR FAN-BOY AND IM SAYING THIS, THOR IS COMPLETELY WORTHLESS AGAINST GOKU, KAMEHAMEHA WILL OBLITERATE ALMOST ANYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep. he wouldn't be able to beat classic juggernaut because he is invincible with his helm.. But with gogeta ssj4 that's a different story since gogeta ssj4 has telekenesis

Telekinesis is moving object without touching it, right? Every top-fighter showed that it dbz...

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

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Narrators always said things, or write to the character say it, like when galactus fought "probably galaxies destroyed as a side-effect" and everybody mention it as fact. Cell said he could destroy the solar system but noo, he lie, for whatever reason but he lie(there is ppl who disagree broly a galaxy buster, it shown then kaio react to it, but no, that was a natural disaster). About Thanos you didn't react anything for that scan where he getting pwned by the avengers.

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@ReiKai said:

It's not that people are underrating Goku and DBZ. It's that, as far as it goes in fiction, DBZ only ranks about Mid-Level in terms of power. DC/Marvel, Tenchi Muyo, Saint Seiya, Cursed Sword and many, many others, all have characters in power rankings so far above DBZ that it's not funny. There really just isn't any middle-ground characters for DBZ to go against. And, anyone who wants to g out of their way and bitch about someone from DBZ losing to the likes of Thor and Thanos, can go somewhere else to pull those stunts. That shit's not welcome and a complete waste of time.

But you strongly underrating the dbz, and overrating the comic guys. Also there is still people who think goku hardly can lift 40ton. There is a lot of people on youtube who think kenpachi/ichigo would beat goku and the others. I would call it underrating. (but on 9gag I see there is more dbz fan than superman fan)

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@Dream: I meant that scarn after a Genki Dama, that effect on evils. And what do you mean "most if his power"? He still had the powers, unless he would die. If Juggernaut on lower power can be harmed, that means he can be harmed on high power level also, just not that easy.

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